Trump December 6, 2007, 1:37 pm

by Kevin
The last bastion of "golf for all" is Scotland. Where else on the planet can the average golfer play the level of courses as he can in Scotland. It is the home of golf as it was meant to be - open to all no matter what wealth strata. Congrats to the Scots. Thank you for keeping your country pristeen. Now whatever you do, please turn down the Wal-Mart officiandos also.

Trump in Scotland December 6, 2007, 9:03 am

by Sue Hain
I am with the people in Scotland on this one. They don't need Donald Trump messing up their countryside! I have never been to Scotland (would love to visit), but my son says it is his favorite country to visit. Too many people in the states are destroying our countryside to build new houses, and we should have someone here thinking about the environment instead of saying yes to people like Donald Trump. So stick to your guns and I say to Ireland shame on them for allowing this to happen in such a beautiful country! Someone needs to take a stand.

Re: December 5, 2007, 6:54 am

Trump and History December 5, 2007, 6:54 am

by Greg Sharp
Cruden Bay in Aberdeenshire is rated among the top 50 golf courses in the world. It was built by the Great North of Scotland Railway in the late 19th century along with a very grand hotel. The hotel proved to be unsustainable and was demolished. The region now has an amazing golf course on an unspoilt stretch of coastline.
It seems that some of the folk who have posted here are worried that the Trump project is unsustainable for more than a couple of decades.
Well, the precedent has been set already and it's one of the proudest examples of links golf in the world - bring it on I say!

Trump December 5, 2007, 3:32 am

by Dave
I personally agree with the article - Why should anyone support anything that they will never get to use.........If this course would be for the normal golfer and not just the super rich, then that might get better thoughts, but another Loch Lomond, sorry not for me

Trump December 5, 2007, 2:41 am

by Bob
I am sorry to read such a parochial report on this development. I do not have any real interest in this story but it is remarkable to me that someone wishing to invest in Scotland should receive such hostility. By all means if the proposal cannot meet planning requirements then quite rightly the plan should be withdrawn but the gloating tone and self righteous comments do nobody any credit whatsoever. This is not a matter of life or death, yet to some it seems even more than that was at stake. I despair at the inward looking attitude we Scot's display at times. Investors should be welcomed to Scotland and accomodated if possible. If we cannot, as in this case for planning regulations,then we do so as civilised people and not as an angry mob bent on revenge. Unfortunately the tone of this article and subsequent comments suggest how far we still have to go.

Donald Trump December 5, 2007, 1:36 am

by Michael
Trump needs to know that sometimes B.S. does walk!

trump December 4, 2007, 12:45 pm

by freddy
just send trump to china and let him compete with mission Hills golfcourses(180 holes at least!) and pay the membership!!!!

Trump December 4, 2007, 11:16 am

by Leonard Franchi
As a golfer I am happy for this proposal to be rejected. Scotland has enough courses and this proposal is about economic regeneration for one man's coffers.

Trump Course December 4, 2007, 10:50 am

by Andy Johnson
I'm surprised a golfing website has taken a negative stance to Donald Trump's plan for a golfing resort in Aberdeenshire.
Being a resident in Aberdeen, I am one of the majority of supporters of this venture that, if approved, will benefit the region economically.
Tim McDonald's article reeks of the same anti-capitalist sentiments that the seven ignorant councilors' have.
My views have already been expressed by the furious locals that may miss out on the Trump project.
But what I can't understand is why a golfing website would publish an anti golf resort article. Have you lost your heads? Maybe you should apply for a job at the Aberdeenshire council. You'd fit in well there.
But on a serious note - the editor who approved this article should resign, as you clearly do not have golfers' interests at heart. And Tim McDonald, you should never have had that lobotomy.
Andy Johnson

RE: Trump Course December 4, 2007, 11:44 am

by Scott-American
While I do not find amazing that a majority of locals may support the endeavors of project like this for "economic" reasons, let me just say that these economic reasons are short sighted, rarely sustainable beyond a couple of decades and leave a permanent destruction of the environment and local community way of life. Communities that are "traditional" based, e.g., the tweed industry in the Hebrides, go up and down over time but many (not all, e.g., Welsh slate) have survived as they are based on the local elements and resources. These quick buck endeavors never do. Witness the Gulf Coast of the US after Katrina, the countless resorts that have to be "revitalized" (Anybody want to live at Grenelief in Orlando or the Poconos, Bretton Woods, Dixville Notch, etc???) after 20-30 years... the list is endless. And if Andy Johnson wants to make his living serving 10GBP beefburgers to haughty Americans, go for it. But you won't think so much of the "economic reasons" after a few years. As both a LSE and UPenn (Trump's alma mater) alum, I have been blessed to spend time in Aberdeenshire as well as experience the "pros and cons" of these types of developments. And if you think the costs and benefits are just pounds and pence, you need to go back to school. Kudo to Tim and the editor. Oh BTW, no real golfer worth his salt would prefer a "modern", cart-path ladened course over a Cruden Bay or Duff House so T&F, take your plans into the North Sea. BTW Andy, why don't you and the rest of the supporters move to the Poconos or Grenelief - there is plenty of room - so the rest of us golfers can enjoy the real home of golf that you want to destroy.

 

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