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..and the wisdom to know the difference. June 25, 2005, 1:08 am

by K.T.
I personally play oft times at 6:00 a.m. and they rounds are mostly unimpeded and less than 4 hours. I enjoy it immensely. I also play on the weekends, when greens fees are higher and usually drive 70 plus miles to do so on nicer courses then what we play on the weekday. I know and understand that it's going to be 5 hours to play as more people are out on the weekend and more people mean more revenue for the course. So for what amounts to little more then 3 minutes per hole, I take the time to enjoy the course, the surrounding and the serenity that golf and being outdoors with my friends bring. If playing a five hour round is irritating to some then go do something else and for your sake, learn how to relax. I'm probably not going to be in the mood to listen to someone snivel about slow play when the very causes of rounds beyond the 4.5 hour mark are beyond your vision. Relax Damnit!

slow play June 19, 2005, 10:14 pm

by JON LONG
On the Sabbitini issue, the players should say "thanks." We could all live to say good-bye, doubtful in our generation, but soon, to golf as we know it. It's about over ! Golf had it's run, Sabbatini just reminded us of a glaring problem.

Re: June 17, 2005, 9:23 am

Slow play June 17, 2005, 9:23 am

by Philippe Lessard
I think that Rory Sabbatini frustration is understandable. At the level those guys are playing, slow play must be punished. But I disagree with people saying that slow play is the number on problem in golf today.
For sure a foursome of 5 handicappers will find their pleasure by playing a round under 4 hours, but they are a few and for the majority of golf players, it is impossible without stress, gimme puts, non-respect of golf etiquette, etc. That's all against the spirit of golf. I play golf for what it is: a game that makes you challenge against yourself with your force and weakness, a game that makes you feel in contact with nature and a game that brings you good moments with friends and peoples. You cannot enjoy the game when the only concern you have is to speed it up and try to close the 18 holes the fastest way you can. Cross-country race is made for that.
I understand that there is a problem when you have to spend 5-1/2 hours on the course. Even 5 hours is too much time but I prefer wait behind a slow group, take my time and enjoy the course than being rushed by golfers trying to beat their speed record and return home more stressed and frustrated than when they arrived.
Thanks
Philippe Lessard

Slow Pace of Play June 17, 2005, 6:34 am

by John Frawley
I marshall at a nice 36-hole facility (Cottonwood @ Rancho San Diego) and about the only real complaint we marshalls routinely receive regards slow play. We suggest to the players that they practice "ready-golf" to help pick up the pace. Frankly, I don't see why ready-golf can't be employed in tournaments when appropriate, even with pro tournies. As was mentioned, it would set a good precedent for the amateurs.

Sabbatini June 17, 2005, 1:27 am

by Dave
Perhaps Rory was a little off base, pulling his vanishing act in front of the cameras. However; Crane has known of his slow play for quite a while. Maybe someone has to get in his face. As for local courses; Too many "golfers " waste their time and mine taking 3/4 practice swings, fatting the shot and then plumb bobbing a flat green when they do get there. It is getting to be too much spending 5 1/2 hours OR MORE to play a round.

pace of play June 16, 2005, 11:48 pm

by conniegrace
There is a lot to be said about slow play...but more than that there is normal pace of play. Sab. is a much faster player than most and that can be frustrating to average to slow players too. Select your club quickly, visulize your shot in a reasonable time frame, take one, perhaps two practice swings and hit the ball, return to your bag and march on. How long does that take? 1 maybe 2 minutes tops...if you take longer than that you should work on speeding up...and if you are holding up play, don't hold it up more by hailing the cart girl.

Slow Play June 16, 2005, 9:00 pm

by Bob Arnold
The problem is most people aren't taught to play fast. "Ready golf, what's that?" They ask. Most people don't drop their partner off and go to their ball. Others don't have a club ready, don't carry their putter with their wedge as they approach a chip shot. Many don't carry an extra ball in their pocket in case they hit one in a hazard. There are so many ways to play fast. The Golf Channel should make a video where an expert follows a foursome an points out ways to speed up play. All it reuires is a little education. My wife can I can easily play 18 holes in under three hours, walking;under 21/2 riding and Idon't think we're exceptionally fast..

slow play June 16, 2005, 5:45 pm

by Voytek Fizyta
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SLOW PLAY June 16, 2005, 4:28 pm

by John Tripp
The joy of the game of golf is its priority on integrity and honesty. It is a gentleman's game. It has history and real romance. Killing it with a pro who takes forever to play or the 24 handicapper who plumb-bobs every one of his 4-putt greens kills the joy of the game.
Play well, play quickly, play poorly, but play in 4 hours. Courses could ranger some good public courses and increase traffic if a foursome didn't think it would take 7 hours to play 18 holes. It's that simple.
Ever heard of a guy who complained about getting done in 4 hours? Never.
Sabbatini may have acted like a jerk, but he certainly made a statement. One that needed to be made.

Slow Play June 16, 2005, 1:31 pm

by mel monahan
If we could teach amateurs to play ready golf, that meaning each player going to their ball, and limiting lost ball searchs to 2 minutes, we could all play 18 in under 4 hours.
We (a twosome) followed four senior ladies (all were over 60) the other day at a local public club and could barely keep up! These ladies played good golf and smart golf. Each went to their own ball, kept most shots in play, and limited ball searches when out of bounds. They invited us to play through at a par 3 and we declined. We would not have played any faster.

 

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