Course Review and Comments
I have played this course since it opened. I suffered thru the bad times, enjoyed the good, I still believe in the potential of the course, but I have come to the conclusion the end is near.
The current owner has no idea on how to run a golf course. He does not understand the money this course could generate if it were to be managed correctly.
It's possible I may be wrong, and he may be managing the facility to meet his own goals. There are the mineral rights etc, and he does not need to make money, maybe this is a write-off for him. If that is the case, then as the owner, it is his right to run the place into the ground. But if that is the case, would it not be easier just to close it down?
Very little that has been done makes sense, and the evidence is plentiful:
- The superintendent who was trying to bring the course back was let go. In fact, a lot of good people who helped in a positive way have been let go over the past year.
- People who were very good at dealing with the public were fired for bogus reasons
- What was done in the main bar was very nice, but the wall that created the 4-star restaurant (which never served a meal) cut the room in half and eliminated the patio. More money was spent to try to open that area up, time will tell.
- Money spent on cutting the pro shop in half.
- One of the few grass ranges in the area has not been used in over a year, now open for teed practice only. This is easy money, pick of the balls and cut the grass. But the grass is now sparse, needs more time. Why was this not properly completed?
- Traps taken out on one and eight, replaced with dirt and mud. Why was this not properly completed?
- Tee torn out on seven, s till a pile of dirt. Why was this not properly completed?
- No work done on the par 3 tees - they are a disaster already
- Dandelions in full bloom, clover in abundance.
- What were once rated as the best fairways in the city, are in a state of decline. Hard Pan areas are expanding rapidly,
- Raised prices in the bar area, $20 for a pitcher of beer, a $1 charge for ice to keep a $15 six-pack cold. Guys are leaving after their rounds to go elsewhere. They are forcing people out. I believe the manager of the restaurant is a major issue.
In my opinion, you cannot maintain a course with a part time superintendent, and with minimal staff and budget. Once the greens fees go to $55 on June 1, I predict play will decline, it is not a $55 course at this time. Once play declines, the price will drop, and the people who drive carts close to the greens and refuse to fix divots and ball marks will return, and the downward spiral will continue. I have nothing against Rose Ridge, it has its place. But unless something is done soon, Pgh Nat'l is on its way to becoming a Rose Ridge, with higher potential.
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November 17th, 2015 08:23
One last review,
It's a shame on many fronts,
1. the grounds crew is working hard, there are just not enough of them to keep up.
2. The fairways were aerated earlier, they needed it badly, greens
July 05th, 2015 06:40
Do you have an extra 4:45 - 5 hours to spend outside early on a Saturday morning? If so, book a time a Pgh Natl.
Had an early time on Sat, before 7:30, time to complete play 4:50.
They just don't ge
June 01st, 2015 04:02
The grounds drew has done a good job of getting the course in shape, now that the superintendent is on-site full time, my impression is things are improving.
The greens are at a reasonable speed now
January 09th, 2015 05:20
I am hoping that maybe the light is going on, but concerns remain,
I will give credit where credit is due, once the old restaurant manages were let go, Stephanie and Flo did a great job, and people
August 20th, 2014 20:33
Look, The course owner Colin Dunwoody is one of the finest pieces
of a cons that a person can make. I know first hand that he is a liar and has no business operating anything more than a soda stand.
July 06th, 2014 16:10
Maybe they are getting the hint, the restaurant manager and his side kick gave been let go. This is huge! Their replacements seem to get the idea of customer service. A new menu with slightly reduced
June 13th, 2014 05:47
You really cant make this stuff up.
A friend of mine played on the 8th, went to the bar with a friend to have a sandwich and a drink. My friend had a Bloody Mary,
Bill for the Bloddy, $11.
June 05th, 2014 05:29
Again, you cant make this stuff up, as confirmed in the previous review, $1 for a cup of ice.
After our round, we went to the bar for an over priced beer, one of my group wanted to order a hafl doze
May 27th, 2014 14:08
Course in marginal condition, 50.00 green fees, 1.00 for a cup of ice for the bottle of water bought on site, are kidding! that is just plain Ignorant, whom ever came up with this cash generating idea
May 27th, 2014 10:55
You really cant make this stuff up, but it is fact, not fiction.
The price is now $50 on weekends,
I stopped at the halfway shack to get a drink, an extremely nice college girl was behind the coun
May 05th, 2014 04:04
I was hoping to be able to write a good review, and there are some good signs, but after what I saw, I believe the owner is more interested in running a restaurant than a golf course, He does not unde
September 02nd, 2013 14:31
As previously posted, the conditions are rapidly deteriorating, both on and off the course.
On the course, Dollar Spot and Pythium are now prevalent, and spreading rapidly. If the owner does not appr
July 29th, 2013 07:37
Another storm is brewing over PNGC. It seems as though the new owner has more interest in running a restaurant than running a golf course. First, a lot of the good employees have quit or have been let
July 14th, 2012 08:09
Had a wonderful experience and can't wait to come back. The staff was very friendly and courteous. The entire grounds were beautiful and the course was in wonderful shape. As a business owener, I l
July 04th, 2012 07:11
I saw positive reviews on the facility but was extremely disappointed when I played there. I would not play here again nor would I recommend it to anyone! I have played courses for less money that a
June 13th, 2012 19:57
This course is making a turn for the better. new owners have it right. conditions have been pitiful the last few years, and its taking time, but they are getting there... greens are rolling better...
May 10th, 2012 18:08
I've played this course in the past two years probably as much or more than anyone else. Last year the course was in bad condition but this year though has been quite the turn around. I'm actually sho
April 05th, 2012 08:18
STAY AWAY ! This course is a waste of your money! The dining room is tacky. Holes in the walls, torn wallpaper poor service! The food is acceptable, while not what is expected from a "golf club
December 02nd, 2011 14:01
If you are smart you will stay away until they can figure out how to grow grass! The overall quality of the course is no better now than it was in 2010; it's very sad!
October 20th, 2011 04:40
Positive changes are occurring. The problems that were present earlier this year, i.e. carts, etc, have been corrected, and course conditions are being restored. Give the new team a little more time,
October 15th, 2011 16:49
The course is undergoing a change for the better. The greens are well on there way back, problems with the carts have been addressed, and I believe the superintendent and new owner are committed to re
August 21st, 2011 09:39
I would say this is the worse golf course in PA. There is nothing good about the place from the staff to the grounds. The golf cart we had broke down twice to add to the awful experience! If you ar
July 04th, 2011 20:10
My yard is in better shape and than this golf course! I can't believe that I wasted my time and money there; if you are smart you will stay away!!
July 03rd, 2011 07:53
A very unpleasant experience that I would not wish upon anybody!! I can't believe the place is opened as poorly as it is being run. I have played many public golf courses this year and none are as b
June 27th, 2011 05:56
If there was a fairway, it was in terrible shape. Green were in worst shape. Had two different golf carts die during the same round. Should have read the other reviews before deciding on this course.
June 12th, 2011 13:49
They are bankrupt for a reason and they sure aren't putting any money into the place! They might want to hire someone that knows how to keep grass alive!
June 05th, 2011 15:32
If you play here you better be playing for free because it is not worth paying money and even then you will be wasting 4 hours of your time. It's embarassing that they are calling it a golf course at
June 01st, 2011 12:02
My opinion only: Owner should let managers manage course and club house. This owner is rude to employees and offensive to golfers and other patrons. I pay for my golf and am not interested in barter
May 22nd, 2011 17:49
The course was in the worst condition I have ever seen it in. It looked like they did not cut the grass in about three weeks. You could lose a ball that was a foot off of the fairway, the rough was
April 24th, 2011 12:23
I heard the place was reopening and I had a gift card so I decide to play; what a mistake! The conditions were awful tees, fairways and greens have had no visible work done to them since last year wh
August 31st, 2010 12:21
I play at this course in a golf league, and while I love the course, it's condition has plummeted over the past few years, and the rates have increased. The greens are in horrible condition due to a
August 10th, 2010 08:13
This course is a nice design that used to be a great place to play, but I'm sad to say that the new ownership has let the conditions of the course plummet while raising the greens fees. When I played
September 04th, 2009 10:26
To its credit, the new ownership at PN invested a great deal in repairing all the bunkers, hiring a professional staff, bringing the restaurant back to life, and replacing the old gas carts with elect
April 14th, 2009 13:19
Nice variety of holes that let you use every club in your bag.
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