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New advances in equipment are always a hot topic. What's your take on it?
Can a 6,500-yard golf course still hold its own? I think there are a few shorter courses, such as Cypress Point that are so well designed that they continue to present a challenge for the professionals. But clearly the ideal length of a golf course today is 10-12 percent longer than the ideal length as described by architects 75 years ago. If something is not done to control the equipment, then we will indeed see ideal course lengths approaching 8,000 yards by 2080.
I know you've mentioned - and perhaps revere - the work of Harry S. Colt. Is he your favorite?
Colt is my favorite -- and the more of his courses that I see and play, the more I appreciate just how relevant his design concepts still are for the modern game.
What other architects from yesteryear do you admire?
Several really -- many with great imaginations derived from their study of the links. Besides Colt's protégé Alister Mackenzie, I have a great deal of respect for Stanley Thompson -- the mentor to Trent Jones and several others. Any unsung heroes you care to mention? Probably Charles Blair Macdonald and Seth Raynor did not get the recognition they deserve until just recently.
What about the architects of today? Any you like in particular?
Tom Fazio has done some very good work and has now built an equally good team of people around him.
Your work is laced with old-style architecture. What's drawn you to that?
It stems from years of playing and designing in Europe. I find that there is a symbiotic relationship of design elements that exists in the old traditional golf courses of Europe that have been lost in contemporary architecture. My goal is to design new courses with the functionality for the modern game, but at the same time providing the synergy of the classic courses. Simply, I am trying to design new courses that feel old.
What are some of the things that don't sit well with you when it comes to contemporary layouts/architecture?
Such things as long walks between holes, mandatory carts, too many forced carries, contours that have no relationship to the strategy of the shot being played, large amounts of non-native vegetation, awkward fairway lies caused by deep catch basins and large commercial looking tee signs are not very popular with me.
Do you play much golf?
Never enough, but I have some how found enough muscle memory to still maintain a single digit handicap!
You seem to be gaining a reputation for being a "globe-trotting" architect. Would you rather work abroad as opposed to staying in North America?
It is always nice to work closer to home in North America, but I have great affection for Europe and what I have learned and continue to learn from studying some of the great courses of the world. Also Europe has provided me with the opportunity to design the traditional walking golf courses that I love creating.
Where will we see the next golf course boom?
I don't have a crystal ball, but I believe we will see local booms like have in China now, or when countries open up politically and wish to attract hard currency. However, I see a long time passing before we experience another boom period like we have had in the past two decades.
Water is becoming a scarce resource in many areas. How is this affecting your work and what will this lead to down the road?
I prefer the natural look of the lower water and lower fertility courses we see in Europe, so I don't see it affecting my work as it might other architects. Secondly, outdoor recreation and green places are vitally important to the health of people and we must continue to develop green space.
Green space is people space and our cities need to do a better job managing and distributing their water. Between the loss of drinking water through old leaking pipes and the dumping of unused reclaimed water into rivers I estimate that we are losing well over a billion gallons of water every day that could be used for recreational purposes. It should also be said that desert regions and corporations are doing a better job managing their water in a continued effort to provide green spaces for their communities. We will also continue to see more desalinized water as well as high salt tolerant grasses being used in desert climates near the sea.
The struggling US economy and the threat of war is affecting many professions. Are you feeling the effects?
We have been very fortunate to be in a situation to receive inquires and accept opportunities that not only interest me, but also identifies us as a world class design firm. I feel that this may be, in part, that we have been able to offer our clients the highest level of design product and personal service, at a time when the sophisticated developers are becoming increasing aware of the value of good fresh design in a competitive marketplace.
What are some of your hobbies?
In my spare time, when I am not attending my children's sporting activities or traveling, I like to play golf and design golf courses.
Favorite golf book?
Essays on Golf Course Architecture' by Colt & Alison
If somebody offered you $10 million to design a course with extensive use of concrete bulkheads, quintuple tiered greens, sand traps shaped like traffic signs, and golf holes shaped like Britney Spears, would you do it?
Never! Now for $11 million ...
When it's all said and done, what do you want people to say about Kyle Phillips as a person?
He loved his family and he cared about people.
How about as an architect?
His work was creative, fun to play and stood the test of time.
What's the most important thing in the world to you?
That I not waver from the course that God has designed for me -- I don't want any bogeys!
For more information on Kyle Phillips check out www.kylephillips.com.
Andrew Penner is a 12-year member of the Canadian PGA and freelance writer. His work has appeared in numerous golf publications in Canada, the United States, and Europe. Comment on this story on our reader feedback page.
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