Golfer Supremacy Rankings: Tom Tancredo fumes as PGA gets Funky in Mexico
Monday February 26, 2007 | 11:53:17 am 587 words, 5566 views
We here at the Golfer Supremacy Rankings have come to the conclusion that 2008 Presidential hopeful Tom Tancredo must despise professional golf these days.
Tancredo, hoping to be elected on the “Hispanics, Hey, Let’s Round Them Up and Kill Them” platform, has been seeing his worst nightmares become reality recently. First, Mexicana Lorena Ochoa has become a dominant force in the LPGA, taking home 2006 Player of the Year honors. And now, the PGA is actually going out of its way to host tournaments in Mexico.
Tancredo, who represents Colorado in the House of Representatives, also is likely not overly thrilled that the PGA spends as much time as it does in Miami, as it will starting March 22 at the WGC-CA Championship.
“Look at what has happened to Miami. It has become a Third World country. You just pick it up and take it and move it someplace. You would never know you’re in the United States of America. You would certainly say you’re in a Third World country,” said Tancredo recently, clutching a Confederate flag and while trying to find proof that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were, in fact, Mexican.
Regardless of Tancredo’s views, we here at the GSR’s only care about one thing - golf excellence. And when we can’t find that, we look for other things. This week, however, golf excellence had a true international flavor.
Golfer Supremacy Rankings
1) Henrik Stenson
Comments: Stenson continues his march up the World Golf Rankings and is now considered one of the planet’s Top-5 players after becoming the first Swede to win a World Golf Championship event as he topped Geoff Ogilvy for the WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship title. It’s one of many recent successes for Stenson, who aside from holing the winning putt in Europe’s 2006 Ryder Cup victory, has brought home the crown at the Dubai Desert Classic, and has married a fabulously hot fellow Swede.
2) Fred Funk
Comments: Things were a tad funky in Mexico over the weekend, as Funk showed that he still has plenty of game for both the PGA and Championship tours. Funk needed a playoff to hold off Jose Coceres and win the Mayakoba Classic in Mayakoba, Quintana Roo, Mexico. It was the eighth Tour victory for Funk, who may take some ribbing for his lack of distance of the tee, but when he finds a course that works for his game, is a big threat, even at 50. Also at the event, Esteban Toledo was the highest Mexcian finisher, as he ended up tied for 41st, which likely burns Tancredo to no end.
3) Jim Rutledge
Comment: After being featured in the GSR’s, Rutledge made his first PGA cut of the year at the Mayakoba Classic, as the Canadian finished tied for 31st, and earned slightly more than $21,000. Rutledge is now sitting at 195th on the Money list, and appears primed to make a serious run at winning the FedEx Cup, which, despite Tancredo’s objections, allows non-Americans to win.
4) Stacy Prammanasudh
Comments: Prammanasudh earned her second LPGA victory by winning the Fields Open. Despite the foreign-sounding name, Prammanasudh is an All-American babe who earned All-American honors at Tulsa. Nonetheless, Tancredo has formerly requested she change her last name to Smith.
Random factoid: Tancredo, who got interested in politics when he portrayed communist dictator Fidel Castro in a school play, has yet to decide whether he will finish up his time in Congress, or work full time on his presidential bid, where he currently sits at about 2 percent, trailing Condolezza Rice, who isn’t even running.
–WKW
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Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
As I see it, if this traitor Bush or other modern day Benedict Arnold tries to squeeze through this North American treaty--the blood is going to flow. The Government or no government! Without a national referendum to see if THE PEOPLE approve of this treaty? This might just turn into another Civil war.
I've talked to a lot of militia's, military organizations on line and they have informed me they will never allow any kind of merger between Canada and America---and certainly not that corrupt, sadistic country South of our border. They are telling me, that hundreds of minutemen, national guard militia's and regular people are buying weapons. I'm sure that both parties who try to push the American citizen into this nasty situation, where their rights are trampled-on by some quasi-corporate-CARTEL-government.
I feel really scared for my family in that I might (just might) have a pulse for another thirty years, and to see some kind of national uprising against these greed predators. I know for a fact that Texans are heavily armed. The thought of federal agents hoping to take a mans property, he's owned since the Alamo is a dangerous dilemma, especially in the name of driving a massive highway through farmland. That corporate agriculture has already taken it's toll on the small farmstead and now to be betrayed in the name of making communist China rich, Walmart and all the mega industries in the name of even more profit--is going to backfire.
What I do not understand is why our leader's (honest, patriotic leaders) are not telling the majority of the people. Other than a small minority like Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Virgil Goode and others are not speaking out. It is my belief that Virgil Goode of Virginia has drafted a bill to terminate nightmare merger.that has been admitted in Congress.
I've talked to a lot of militia's, military organizations on line and they have informed me they will never allow any kind of merger between Canada and America---and certainly not that corrupt, sadistic country South of our border. They are telling me, that hundreds of minutemen, national guard militia's and regular people are buying weapons. I'm sure that both parties who try to push the American citizen into this nasty situation, where their rights are trampled-on by some quasi-corporate-CARTEL-government.
I feel really scared for my family in that I might (just might) have a pulse for another thirty years, and to see some kind of national uprising against these greed predators. I know for a fact that Texans are heavily armed. The thought of federal agents hoping to take a mans property, he's owned since the Alamo is a dangerous dilemma, especially in the name of driving a massive highway through farmland. That corporate agriculture has already taken it's toll on the small farmstead and now to be betrayed in the name of making communist China rich, Walmart and all the mega industries in the name of even more profit--is going to backfire.
What I do not understand is why our leader's (honest, patriotic leaders) are not telling the majority of the people. Other than a small minority like Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Virgil Goode and others are not speaking out. It is my belief that Virgil Goode of Virginia has drafted a bill to terminate nightmare merger.that has been admitted in Congress.
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02/26/07 @ 16:17
Comment from: Paul [Visitor]
I think Mr. Wolfrum should stick to golf.
It os obvious he knows nothing about anything else.
It os obvious he knows nothing about anything else.
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02/26/07 @ 19:14
Comment from: 2under [Visitor]
Bill,
You performed a hatchet job on Tancredo. Your statements are about as accurate as calling Wie a "champion". Inaccurate, superlative, hype...
Stick to golf.
You performed a hatchet job on Tancredo. Your statements are about as accurate as calling Wie a "champion". Inaccurate, superlative, hype...
Stick to golf.
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02/26/07 @ 20:13
Comment from: Booger [Visitor]
Wolfrum embraces communism, which makes it strange that he blogs about
a game emblematic of the decadent west.
a game emblematic of the decadent west.
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02/26/07 @ 21:57
Comment from: Conservatove [Visitor]
Mr. Wolfrum lives in Uberlandia, Minas Gerais, Brazil.
Mr. Wolfrum supports rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a path to citizenship. It is not surpising that a person thats wants to give citizenship to
millions of illegal aliens that have deliberately violated federal criminal
immigration laws would viciously attack Rep. Tancredo.
There are thousands of illegal alien child molestors in the USA, scores of thousands of
illegal alien drug dealers in the USA, scores of thousands of illegal alien gang
members in the USA, scores of thousands of illegal alien drunk drivers in the
USA and thousands of illegal alien murderers in the USA. They should all be
deported. I wonder if Mr. Wolfrum would like to provide a home to any of those
illegal aliens in this Brazilian residence.
Rep. Tancredo is an American patriot. He rightfully opposes rewarding millions
of illegal aliens with amnesty.
One can learn about Rep. Tancredo by visiting www.teamtancredo.com or
www.electtancredo.com. One certainly learns nothing that is truthful about
Rep. Tancredo from the lies told about him by Mr. Wolfrum.
Mr. Wolfrum's headline for a column about the 2006 Senior Skins Tournament
was "Old white dudes run amok on Hawaii golf course, paid very well to do so".
Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus were among the "[o]ld white dudes"
competing in the tourmament.
Mr. Wolfrum supports rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a path to citizenship. It is not surpising that a person thats wants to give citizenship to
millions of illegal aliens that have deliberately violated federal criminal
immigration laws would viciously attack Rep. Tancredo.
There are thousands of illegal alien child molestors in the USA, scores of thousands of
illegal alien drug dealers in the USA, scores of thousands of illegal alien gang
members in the USA, scores of thousands of illegal alien drunk drivers in the
USA and thousands of illegal alien murderers in the USA. They should all be
deported. I wonder if Mr. Wolfrum would like to provide a home to any of those
illegal aliens in this Brazilian residence.
Rep. Tancredo is an American patriot. He rightfully opposes rewarding millions
of illegal aliens with amnesty.
One can learn about Rep. Tancredo by visiting www.teamtancredo.com or
www.electtancredo.com. One certainly learns nothing that is truthful about
Rep. Tancredo from the lies told about him by Mr. Wolfrum.
Mr. Wolfrum's headline for a column about the 2006 Senior Skins Tournament
was "Old white dudes run amok on Hawaii golf course, paid very well to do so".
Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus were among the "[o]ld white dudes"
competing in the tourmament.
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02/26/07 @ 23:42
Comment from: Joltin Joe [Visitor]
"Tancredo, hoping to be elected on the "Hispanics, Hey, Let's Round Them Up and Kill Them" platform, has been seeing his worst nightmares become reality recently."
No, his platform can be more accurately described as "Let's enforce US laws and protect our citizens from terrorism" If you have a problem with that, you are mentally defective.
Mr. Wolfram, you obviously aren't paying taxes in the state of Texas, where public schools and public hospitals have become overrun with illegal aliens to the point that they have become useless to the general public. You obviously aren't in danger of losing your home and having to move your family into an apartment because you can no longer afford your taxes on a working class income.
You obviously have the means to live wherever you wish. Good for you. Understand that most of us don't. We have to make do with the neighborhood schools, public services, and health care system in which we find ourselves, and to which we contribute nearly all of the taxation base. We are the victims in this. You stock portfolio types are the winners.
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and come and put your kids in the Dallas or Los Angeles public schools? Next time you are sick or injured, why don't you try getting care at one of our county hospitals? That would turn you into a Tom Tancredo fan very quickly. Until then, keep sipping that champagne!
No, his platform can be more accurately described as "Let's enforce US laws and protect our citizens from terrorism" If you have a problem with that, you are mentally defective.
Mr. Wolfram, you obviously aren't paying taxes in the state of Texas, where public schools and public hospitals have become overrun with illegal aliens to the point that they have become useless to the general public. You obviously aren't in danger of losing your home and having to move your family into an apartment because you can no longer afford your taxes on a working class income.
You obviously have the means to live wherever you wish. Good for you. Understand that most of us don't. We have to make do with the neighborhood schools, public services, and health care system in which we find ourselves, and to which we contribute nearly all of the taxation base. We are the victims in this. You stock portfolio types are the winners.
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and come and put your kids in the Dallas or Los Angeles public schools? Next time you are sick or injured, why don't you try getting care at one of our county hospitals? That would turn you into a Tom Tancredo fan very quickly. Until then, keep sipping that champagne!
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02/27/07 @ 13:12
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Tancredo is a traitor who spoke in front of the League of the South whose members have advocated armed insurrection against the United States. American patriot, my foot!! He is a confederate traitor who belongs in jail!!
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02/27/07 @ 16:08
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Traitor Tancredo tried to make illegals and Hispanics and issue. People did not buy it and defeated at least eleven of the members of his House Immigration Reform Caucsu. Youg guys lost!! Get over it!! I suggest you try again in 2008...good luck!!
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02/27/07 @ 16:10
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
One can learn about racist Tancredo from this website.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/news/item.jsp?aid=79
For the American worker when he fights immigrants and then the clown turns around and votes against the minimum wage increase...so much for the American worker.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/news/item.jsp?aid=79
For the American worker when he fights immigrants and then the clown turns around and votes against the minimum wage increase...so much for the American worker.
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02/27/07 @ 16:11
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
Morris Dees is the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center. One can read
about his divorce by using the following link:
http://www.zianet.com/web/dees1.htm.
about his divorce by using the following link:
http://www.zianet.com/web/dees1.htm.
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02/27/07 @ 22:43
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
More information about Morris Dees is available at this link: http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/Chronicles/July2004/0704Grace.html.
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02/27/07 @ 22:50
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Dont give a damn whether Dees divorces or not. Mr. Tancredo is a confederate flag waging traitor, whose actions are an insult to the good men who fought for the Union. He is no diifferent from the illegals who wave the Mexican flag and march on our streets. I also know his racist constituents very well...ones in Evergreen, Bergen Park and Littleton, Colorado. They do not want folks like Stacy Prammanasudh to exist in this world. Racist clowns who read VDare and support the likes of Samuel Francis and the Neo Nazis masquerading as conservatives. You want to stop illegals support folks who are on the side of the American workers such as Caire McCaskill, Heath Schuler and Brad Ellsworth. Tancredo is a fraud who does not support the American worker. Just a traitor who belongs in the prison. Divorce is nothing new..good conservatives have philandered and divorced ranging from Newt to Bob and other so-called conservative crooks who preach family values. You are funny conservative. I sure hope you are not like Mr. Dees like many so-called conservatives have been in the past.
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02/27/07 @ 23:24
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
Approximately 93.3 percent of the members of Rep. Tancredo's Congressional
Immigration Reform Caucus retained their seats in the 2006 November
elections. The membership of Rep. Tancredo's caucus included both
Republicans and Democrats. There are presently ninety-one (91) members of
the caucus. It is now chaired by Rep. Brian Bilbray. The caucus continues to
have both Republican and Democratic members.
The supporters of rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a
path to citizenship are the ones that lost and need to get over it. Many of the
Democrats that defeated Republicans claimed to be as tough or tougher on
border security than their Repbulican opponent. Rep. Shuler and Rep.
Ellsworth certainly aren't going to be voting for amnesty.
Morris Dees and G. Chell are both going to have to deal with the fact that an
amnesty is not going to pass in the United States House of Representatives.
Immigration Reform Caucus retained their seats in the 2006 November
elections. The membership of Rep. Tancredo's caucus included both
Republicans and Democrats. There are presently ninety-one (91) members of
the caucus. It is now chaired by Rep. Brian Bilbray. The caucus continues to
have both Republican and Democratic members.
The supporters of rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a
path to citizenship are the ones that lost and need to get over it. Many of the
Democrats that defeated Republicans claimed to be as tough or tougher on
border security than their Repbulican opponent. Rep. Shuler and Rep.
Ellsworth certainly aren't going to be voting for amnesty.
Morris Dees and G. Chell are both going to have to deal with the fact that an
amnesty is not going to pass in the United States House of Representatives.
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02/27/07 @ 23:35
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
The allegations about Morris Dees involve far more than consensual conduct
with adults. The allegations about Mr. Dees involve inappropriate conduct with
a minor.
Rep. Tancredo is a true patriot unlike the racist members of La Raza, MECHA
and LULAC.
Ellsworth and Shuler do not support rewarding illegal aliens with legal status
and a path to citizenship. Claire McCaskill supports amnesty.
I'm still waiting to hear from you why Rep. Tancredo belongs in jail.
What candidate for president are you supporting?
with adults. The allegations about Mr. Dees involve inappropriate conduct with
a minor.
Rep. Tancredo is a true patriot unlike the racist members of La Raza, MECHA
and LULAC.
Ellsworth and Shuler do not support rewarding illegal aliens with legal status
and a path to citizenship. Claire McCaskill supports amnesty.
I'm still waiting to hear from you why Rep. Tancredo belongs in jail.
What candidate for president are you supporting?
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02/27/07 @ 23:45
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"Approximately 93.3 percent of the members of Rep. Tancredo's Congressional
Immigration Reform Caucus retained their seats in the 2006 November
elections. The membership of Rep. Tancredo's caucus included both
Republicans and Democrats. There are presently ninety-one (91) members of
the caucus. It is now chaired by Rep. Brian Bilbray. The caucus continues to
have both Republican and Democratic members."
Comment: BS. Has two Democratic members. Dont think I am fool who does not check the list. Insult someone else's intelligence.
"The supporters of rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a
path to citizenship are the ones that lost and need to get over it. Many of the
Democrats that defeated Republicans claimed to be as tough or tougher on
border security than their Repbulican opponent. Rep. Shuler and Rep.
Ellsworth certainly aren't going to be voting for amnesty."
Comment: You are on weed, man. I never said Shuler and Ellsworth support amnesty. Read my post again!!
"Morris Dees and G. Chell are both going to have to deal with the fact that an
amnesty is not going to pass in the United States House of Representatives."
Comment: Tancredo is the issue here. Ellsworth and Schuler will not support amnesty. But they will never be seen in the company of racist traitors such as Tancredo. They stand for the American worker unlike Tancredo, did not show up at confederate flag waving parities. Tancredo is a racist who is giving cover to other racists...Did he vote against minimum wage or not? Did he join the company of traitors or not? The first one is a fact, the second one is evidence. Whether amnesty passes or not is a mute point. Tancredo is treacherosus traitor who belongs in jail.
Immigration Reform Caucus retained their seats in the 2006 November
elections. The membership of Rep. Tancredo's caucus included both
Republicans and Democrats. There are presently ninety-one (91) members of
the caucus. It is now chaired by Rep. Brian Bilbray. The caucus continues to
have both Republican and Democratic members."
Comment: BS. Has two Democratic members. Dont think I am fool who does not check the list. Insult someone else's intelligence.
"The supporters of rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a
path to citizenship are the ones that lost and need to get over it. Many of the
Democrats that defeated Republicans claimed to be as tough or tougher on
border security than their Repbulican opponent. Rep. Shuler and Rep.
Ellsworth certainly aren't going to be voting for amnesty."
Comment: You are on weed, man. I never said Shuler and Ellsworth support amnesty. Read my post again!!
"Morris Dees and G. Chell are both going to have to deal with the fact that an
amnesty is not going to pass in the United States House of Representatives."
Comment: Tancredo is the issue here. Ellsworth and Schuler will not support amnesty. But they will never be seen in the company of racist traitors such as Tancredo. They stand for the American worker unlike Tancredo, did not show up at confederate flag waving parities. Tancredo is a racist who is giving cover to other racists...Did he vote against minimum wage or not? Did he join the company of traitors or not? The first one is a fact, the second one is evidence. Whether amnesty passes or not is a mute point. Tancredo is treacherosus traitor who belongs in jail.
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02/27/07 @ 23:50
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
Rep. Tancredo won his Congressional race with 58.8 percent of the vote
against both Democratic and Libertarian opponents. Those like you and Morris
Dees that hate Rep. Tancredo are the ones that will have to get over the fact
that he will be serving another term int he Untied States Hosue of
Representatives.
against both Democratic and Libertarian opponents. Those like you and Morris
Dees that hate Rep. Tancredo are the ones that will have to get over the fact
that he will be serving another term int he Untied States Hosue of
Representatives.
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02/27/07 @ 23:51
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"I'm still waiting to hear from you why Rep. Tancredo belongs in jail."
Comment: Tancredo belongs in jail for one reason only...he was in the company of folks who support violent insurrection against the US. It is time that these traitors assimilate into the US, tear up their confederate flag and support the old glory..
Comment: Tancredo belongs in jail for one reason only...he was in the company of folks who support violent insurrection against the US. It is time that these traitors assimilate into the US, tear up their confederate flag and support the old glory..
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02/27/07 @ 23:53
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"Rep. Tancredo won his Congressional race with 58.8 percent of the vote
against both Democratic and Libertarian opponents. Those like you and Morris
Dees that hate Rep. Tancredo are the ones that will have to get over the fact
that he will be serving another term int he Untied States Hosue of
Representatives. "
Comment: In a gerrymandered district comprised of educated rednecks, white flighters and the likes of Harris and Kliebold. I fully understand his racist district..he is not America. He is the Colorado sixth district...as I told you, I know his district in and out. They have made their choice, and so did the US. They elected a Democratic Congress and kicked Tancredo's GOP out of power. Tancredo's clones lost..Graf, Pombo, Ryun, Bass, Sweeney, Bradley, Hayworth, Gard and a number of others. When you get over the fact that Dems are in power, I will get over the fact that racists in Evergreen, Conifer and Littleton elected Tancredo.
against both Democratic and Libertarian opponents. Those like you and Morris
Dees that hate Rep. Tancredo are the ones that will have to get over the fact
that he will be serving another term int he Untied States Hosue of
Representatives. "
Comment: In a gerrymandered district comprised of educated rednecks, white flighters and the likes of Harris and Kliebold. I fully understand his racist district..he is not America. He is the Colorado sixth district...as I told you, I know his district in and out. They have made their choice, and so did the US. They elected a Democratic Congress and kicked Tancredo's GOP out of power. Tancredo's clones lost..Graf, Pombo, Ryun, Bass, Sweeney, Bradley, Hayworth, Gard and a number of others. When you get over the fact that Dems are in power, I will get over the fact that racists in Evergreen, Conifer and Littleton elected Tancredo.
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02/27/07 @ 23:59
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
As I correctly said, there are Democratic members of the Congressional
Immigration Reform Caucus. What is your opinion of the Democratic members
of the caucus? Why do they serve in a cacus with Rep. Tancredo? What
members of the caucus are racists?
Apparently, you are the person using "weed". I never posted anything about
you claiming that Shuler or Ellsworth support amnesty. Like you, though, Claire
McCaskill supports amnesty. Like you, she supports rewarding millions of
illegal aliens with legal status and a path to citizenship.
The "racist" Rep. Tancredo is presently trying to obtain the immediate release
from prison of two Mexican-American former Border Patrol agents, Jose Alonso
Compean and Ignacio Ramos.
Rep. Tancredo has never said anything that was racist. However, that won't
stop supporters of giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, such as you and
Morris Dees, from claiming he is a racist.
Is everyone that waives a confederate flag a traitor? Do you believe that
everyone that waives a Confederate flag should be in prison? Are the
hundereds of thousands of illegal aliens that waived foreign flags on
May 1st, 2006, traitors? Should they all be placed in prison?
Immigration Reform Caucus. What is your opinion of the Democratic members
of the caucus? Why do they serve in a cacus with Rep. Tancredo? What
members of the caucus are racists?
Apparently, you are the person using "weed". I never posted anything about
you claiming that Shuler or Ellsworth support amnesty. Like you, though, Claire
McCaskill supports amnesty. Like you, she supports rewarding millions of
illegal aliens with legal status and a path to citizenship.
The "racist" Rep. Tancredo is presently trying to obtain the immediate release
from prison of two Mexican-American former Border Patrol agents, Jose Alonso
Compean and Ignacio Ramos.
Rep. Tancredo has never said anything that was racist. However, that won't
stop supporters of giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, such as you and
Morris Dees, from claiming he is a racist.
Is everyone that waives a confederate flag a traitor? Do you believe that
everyone that waives a Confederate flag should be in prison? Are the
hundereds of thousands of illegal aliens that waived foreign flags on
May 1st, 2006, traitors? Should they all be placed in prison?
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02/28/07 @ 00:19
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
So Rep. Tancredo wins election by the votes of educated rednecks and white
firefighters? Do only white Americans vote for Rep. Tancredo?
How many racist districts are there in the USA? Does Rep. Tancredo reside
in the only racist district in the USA?
It will come as a real surprise to Rep. Tancredo that Rep. Ryun is a Tancredo
clone in light of the fact that Rep. Ryun voted for the 245(i) amnesty for
illegal aliens, doubling the number of H-1B workers, as well as the
Singapore Free Trade Agreement and the Chile Free Trade Agreement.
It will also come as a real surprise to Rep. Tancredo that Rep. Sweeney is a
Tancredo clone in light of the fact that Rep. Sweeney twice co-sponsored
an amnesty for agricultural workers and voted for sanctuary policies for illegal
aliens. He also voted for the Singapore Free Trade Agreement and
co-sponsored legislation to increase H-2B workers. He also voted against
an amendment to end a special amesnty for certain Central Americans.
firefighters? Do only white Americans vote for Rep. Tancredo?
How many racist districts are there in the USA? Does Rep. Tancredo reside
in the only racist district in the USA?
It will come as a real surprise to Rep. Tancredo that Rep. Ryun is a Tancredo
clone in light of the fact that Rep. Ryun voted for the 245(i) amnesty for
illegal aliens, doubling the number of H-1B workers, as well as the
Singapore Free Trade Agreement and the Chile Free Trade Agreement.
It will also come as a real surprise to Rep. Tancredo that Rep. Sweeney is a
Tancredo clone in light of the fact that Rep. Sweeney twice co-sponsored
an amnesty for agricultural workers and voted for sanctuary policies for illegal
aliens. He also voted for the Singapore Free Trade Agreement and
co-sponsored legislation to increase H-2B workers. He also voted against
an amendment to end a special amesnty for certain Central Americans.
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02/28/07 @ 00:37
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
G. Chell, are you afraid to say what candidate you support for president?
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02/28/07 @ 00:38
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
G. Chell, did you support CAFTA? Did you support the Chile Free Trade
Agreement? Did you support the Singapore Free Trade Agreement?
Agreement? Did you support the Singapore Free Trade Agreement?
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02/28/07 @ 00:50
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
Is a group calling itself the National Council of the Race (the National Council of
La Raza) a racist organization?
La Raza) a racist organization?
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02/28/07 @ 00:58
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor]
Listen, I'll wave the Confederate Flag as well, got it? The influx of third-worlders is destroying our culture; wake up and smell the tequila.
As for Morris Fleas, he is a scoundrel, one of the most evil men in the country, and the sooner God takes him home the better.
As for Morris Fleas, he is a scoundrel, one of the most evil men in the country, and the sooner God takes him home the better.
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02/28/07 @ 01:25
Comment from: 2under [Visitor]
G Chell,
Who are these "racist constituents" you reference?
Who are these "racist constituents" you reference?
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02/28/07 @ 07:06
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
You wave the confederate flag..you are a racist traitor as much as those Third World Hispanics are. Mississippi is a Third World and so is Alabama and Arkansas and yes, Lousiiana...it is already a Third World dump before the Hispanics came in. It is only making it more of a Third World. After all, people of like mentality attract each other.
God has only so far taken friends of yours like Samuel Francis home...Good luck!!
Complaints about Free Trade Agreement are mute. A nation nose deep in debt to Chinese and others have no business talking about sovereignty..first pay back the money you owne and then you can talk about sovereignty...in the olden days folks who are in debt were sent to colonies in Africa. American sovereignty is an illusion. Scream all you want. Pay back the debt and then scream.
God has only so far taken friends of yours like Samuel Francis home...Good luck!!
Complaints about Free Trade Agreement are mute. A nation nose deep in debt to Chinese and others have no business talking about sovereignty..first pay back the money you owne and then you can talk about sovereignty...in the olden days folks who are in debt were sent to colonies in Africa. American sovereignty is an illusion. Scream all you want. Pay back the debt and then scream.
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02/28/07 @ 08:06
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Dont have any candidate, yet. Jim Webb would be my candidate, or someone like hi, who supports the American worker...not a racist like Tancredo who opposes the minimum wage. People who wave the confederate flag should be tried for treason and jailed, just like those folks who wave the Mexican flag. You guys lost the cause and lost the elections, get over it!!
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02/28/07 @ 08:08
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"Who are these "racist constituents" you reference"
Comment: why dont you go find out in Littleton...try West Bowles Avenue..no, they dont wave confederate flags...they are not traitors like the folks who do it in Alabama or Mississippi...they will talk to you in the privacy of their homes and lawns. Also try Bergen Park and Evergreen...and Parker and Lone Tree and Castle Rock. If you gerrymander enough you will elect some looney like Cynthia McKinney, a black or Tom Tancredo who is white....at least in the minds of some...many Anglo-Saxons will dispute that Tancredo is really white...that is why he had to appear in front of the treacherous League of the South and swear allegiance to the Confederate flag and the League of the South...I may not have an American name he insists, but I am really an American. Before asking the golfer to change her last name to Smith, Tancredo needs to change his last name to Smith.
Comment: why dont you go find out in Littleton...try West Bowles Avenue..no, they dont wave confederate flags...they are not traitors like the folks who do it in Alabama or Mississippi...they will talk to you in the privacy of their homes and lawns. Also try Bergen Park and Evergreen...and Parker and Lone Tree and Castle Rock. If you gerrymander enough you will elect some looney like Cynthia McKinney, a black or Tom Tancredo who is white....at least in the minds of some...many Anglo-Saxons will dispute that Tancredo is really white...that is why he had to appear in front of the treacherous League of the South and swear allegiance to the Confederate flag and the League of the South...I may not have an American name he insists, but I am really an American. Before asking the golfer to change her last name to Smith, Tancredo needs to change his last name to Smith.
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02/28/07 @ 08:13
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"Is a group calling itself the National Council of the Race (the National Council of
La Raza) a racist organization? "
Comment: Any organization that represents race could be deemed racist. Tancredo has the gall to ask for the abolition of the congressional racial caucuses after appearing in front of not only an all white organization, but an all white southern organization some of whose members are no different from the gangsters who attacked the WTC and the Pentagon and would do so if given the opportunity.
La Raza) a racist organization? "
Comment: Any organization that represents race could be deemed racist. Tancredo has the gall to ask for the abolition of the congressional racial caucuses after appearing in front of not only an all white organization, but an all white southern organization some of whose members are no different from the gangsters who attacked the WTC and the Pentagon and would do so if given the opportunity.
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02/28/07 @ 08:17
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
G. Chell,
Are you sure that they were "gangsters" (read Muslim terrorists) who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?
With your obvious bias toward far left politics, your slant should be that the Bush Family Evil Empire orchestrated them so thay they , Cheney, and Halliburton could get their hands on mid-east oil and profit from the war in Iraq. Isn't the liberal dogma that Bush et al are the real "gangsters?"
Are you sure you don't want to change your tack?
This should be good.
Are you sure that they were "gangsters" (read Muslim terrorists) who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?
With your obvious bias toward far left politics, your slant should be that the Bush Family Evil Empire orchestrated them so thay they , Cheney, and Halliburton could get their hands on mid-east oil and profit from the war in Iraq. Isn't the liberal dogma that Bush et al are the real "gangsters?"
Are you sure you don't want to change your tack?
This should be good.
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02/28/07 @ 08:53
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"Are you sure that they were "gangsters" (read Muslim terrorists) who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?"
Yes
"With your obvious bias toward far left politics, your slant should be that the Bush Family Evil Empire orchestrated them so thay they , Cheney, and Halliburton could get their hands on mid-east oil and profit from the war in Iraq. Isn't the liberal dogma that Bush et al are the real "gangsters?""
Are many of the folks here support Bush? I dont think so. Does that mean many of these folks are lefty? Are the folks who oppose Bush on VDare lefty? May be you can answer that question.
"Are you sure you don't want to change your tack?
This should be good. "
I dont have to change any tack. The so-called conservatives here oppose Bush, and many would not vote for Bush or his clones. Does that make them lefty for opposing Bush/ Just like the so-called conservatives can oppose Bush, lefties can oppose Bush. Sure, I am a lefty...unlike the racist Tancredo, I am all for the American worker. I would like to stop illegal immigration too...but I also dont care much for outsourcing, support the minimum wage, pay off our national debt so that we can get our sovereignty back, support safety at the workplace...I am not like racist Tacredo who is trying his best to get himself accepted as white among the white southerners...I am not like the racist Federation of American Immigration Reform or Center for Immigration Studies who hide behind the Americanworker when convenient but do not care about outsourcing or minimum wage. I am a real lefty...support the American worker unlike the racist Tancredo who desparately wants to be accepted as an Anglo-Saxon and deny his Sicilian roots..so much so he appears in front of the League of the South half of whom cannot even pronounce words in English. They should learn to speak English first so that the original English speakers can underestand before telling others to speak English.
Yes
"With your obvious bias toward far left politics, your slant should be that the Bush Family Evil Empire orchestrated them so thay they , Cheney, and Halliburton could get their hands on mid-east oil and profit from the war in Iraq. Isn't the liberal dogma that Bush et al are the real "gangsters?""
Are many of the folks here support Bush? I dont think so. Does that mean many of these folks are lefty? Are the folks who oppose Bush on VDare lefty? May be you can answer that question.
"Are you sure you don't want to change your tack?
This should be good. "
I dont have to change any tack. The so-called conservatives here oppose Bush, and many would not vote for Bush or his clones. Does that make them lefty for opposing Bush/ Just like the so-called conservatives can oppose Bush, lefties can oppose Bush. Sure, I am a lefty...unlike the racist Tancredo, I am all for the American worker. I would like to stop illegal immigration too...but I also dont care much for outsourcing, support the minimum wage, pay off our national debt so that we can get our sovereignty back, support safety at the workplace...I am not like racist Tacredo who is trying his best to get himself accepted as white among the white southerners...I am not like the racist Federation of American Immigration Reform or Center for Immigration Studies who hide behind the Americanworker when convenient but do not care about outsourcing or minimum wage. I am a real lefty...support the American worker unlike the racist Tancredo who desparately wants to be accepted as an Anglo-Saxon and deny his Sicilian roots..so much so he appears in front of the League of the South half of whom cannot even pronounce words in English. They should learn to speak English first so that the original English speakers can underestand before telling others to speak English.
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02/28/07 @ 09:07
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
G. Chell,
Congratulations! You are the first liberal left-winger I've encountered that doesn't believe that the President of the United States didn't plan, finance and orchestrate the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Then I guess that you don't believe that the attacks weren't a hoax either. Or holograms or imaging or the results of a massive and masterful conspiracy. Good for you.
But I hope that you realize that your enlightened opinions put you at extreme odds with the majority of your virulent liberal compatriots.
Congratulations! You are the first liberal left-winger I've encountered that doesn't believe that the President of the United States didn't plan, finance and orchestrate the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Then I guess that you don't believe that the attacks weren't a hoax either. Or holograms or imaging or the results of a massive and masterful conspiracy. Good for you.
But I hope that you realize that your enlightened opinions put you at extreme odds with the majority of your virulent liberal compatriots.
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02/28/07 @ 09:28
Comment from: ConservatIve [Visitor]
G. Chell, it is not surprising that you are afraid to answer simple questions
about CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade Agreement and the Singapore Free Trade
Agreement. I believe those agreements harm the American worker. I did not
support them. Most Democrats in the House did not support them.
Did you support CAFTA?
Did you support the Chile Free Trade Agreement?
Did you support the Singapore Free Trade Agreement?
Why are you afraid to answer those questions?
You claim that "[c]omplaints about Free Trade Agreement are mute". Did you
actually graduate from an American high school? Most high school graduates
that I know understand the difference between the word "moot" and the word
"mute". You don't understand the difference.
Questions about free trade agreements are not moot. More trade agreements
will be voted on by this Congress. Do you support the Free Trade Area of the
Americas?
about CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade Agreement and the Singapore Free Trade
Agreement. I believe those agreements harm the American worker. I did not
support them. Most Democrats in the House did not support them.
Did you support CAFTA?
Did you support the Chile Free Trade Agreement?
Did you support the Singapore Free Trade Agreement?
Why are you afraid to answer those questions?
You claim that "[c]omplaints about Free Trade Agreement are mute". Did you
actually graduate from an American high school? Most high school graduates
that I know understand the difference between the word "moot" and the word
"mute". You don't understand the difference.
Questions about free trade agreements are not moot. More trade agreements
will be voted on by this Congress. Do you support the Free Trade Area of the
Americas?
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02/28/07 @ 09:34
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell, you claim that Rep. Tancredo "appear[ed] in front of not only an all
white organization, but an all white southern organization". I wonder why you
must lie to support your opinions. The League of the South has several
African-American members. Even your beloved SPLC would admit that.
white organization, but an all white southern organization". I wonder why you
must lie to support your opinions. The League of the South has several
African-American members. Even your beloved SPLC would admit that.
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02/28/07 @ 09:50
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chen, you claim "the racist Tancredo . . . desparately wants to be accepted as an Anglo-Saxon and deny his Sicilian roots". Yet another lie in the long list of lies told by
you. Rep. Tancredo speaks repeatedly and proudly about his Italian heritage.
Rep. Tancredo's Italian ancestors came to this country legally. You support
rewarding millions of illegal aliens that deliberately violated this nation's federal
criminal immigration laws with legal status and a path to citizenship.
you. Rep. Tancredo speaks repeatedly and proudly about his Italian heritage.
Rep. Tancredo's Italian ancestors came to this country legally. You support
rewarding millions of illegal aliens that deliberately violated this nation's federal
criminal immigration laws with legal status and a path to citizenship.
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02/28/07 @ 09:56
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"You support rewarding millions of illegal aliens that deliberately violated this nation's federal criminal immigration laws with legal status and a path to citizenship. "
Comment: I do not and I never said that and that is a clear lie. Tancredo wants to be accepted as a real white and not some Italian American, and that is why he shows up at places such as the League of the South. Opposing Tancredo does not a supporter of illegal aliens make. There are many ways to oppose illegals. As you have said Brad Ellsworth and Health Shuler already do that without appearing with racist Tancredo.
Comment: I do not and I never said that and that is a clear lie. Tancredo wants to be accepted as a real white and not some Italian American, and that is why he shows up at places such as the League of the South. Opposing Tancredo does not a supporter of illegal aliens make. There are many ways to oppose illegals. As you have said Brad Ellsworth and Health Shuler already do that without appearing with racist Tancredo.
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02/28/07 @ 10:08
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
To Alex:
Pat Buchanan and his sister oppose Bush on Iraq does that make him a lefty, a communist or a Marxist-Lenninst pinko? You answer this question and I will answer yours.
Pat Buchanan and his sister oppose Bush on Iraq does that make him a lefty, a communist or a Marxist-Lenninst pinko? You answer this question and I will answer yours.
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02/28/07 @ 10:09
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"The League of the South has several
African-American members. Even your beloved SPLC would admit that. "
That does not mean that they are not traitors!!
African-American members. Even your beloved SPLC would admit that. "
That does not mean that they are not traitors!!
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02/28/07 @ 10:10
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"But I hope that you realize that your enlightened opinions put you at extreme odds with the majority of your virulent liberal compatriots."
Comment: Puts me at odds with some racist rightwingers too..not necessarily in the US congress..but elsewhere...Stormfront, some folks who read American Rennaissance and even some folks who read VDare believe this...actually you should talk to Professor Kevin MacDonald at Cal State, Long Beach. He really implies that all this is a Jewish conspiracy and that the moslems had nothing to do with it. David Duke said exaclty the same thing in Iran...now that guy should be really tried for treason for going to Iran and attending some dumb conference.
Comment: Puts me at odds with some racist rightwingers too..not necessarily in the US congress..but elsewhere...Stormfront, some folks who read American Rennaissance and even some folks who read VDare believe this...actually you should talk to Professor Kevin MacDonald at Cal State, Long Beach. He really implies that all this is a Jewish conspiracy and that the moslems had nothing to do with it. David Duke said exaclty the same thing in Iran...now that guy should be really tried for treason for going to Iran and attending some dumb conference.
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02/28/07 @ 10:13
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Alex:
Actually I ran into some of Tancredo supporters in Parker and Lone Tree who really believe in the Jewish conspiracy around 9/11..you will find some in Pine and Conifer too...though I have not found any in Littleton, Bergen Park, Evergreen or Castle Rock..so this lunancy is not limited to left wingers.
Actually I ran into some of Tancredo supporters in Parker and Lone Tree who really believe in the Jewish conspiracy around 9/11..you will find some in Pine and Conifer too...though I have not found any in Littleton, Bergen Park, Evergreen or Castle Rock..so this lunancy is not limited to left wingers.
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02/28/07 @ 10:21
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
In 2006, forty-one of the forty-five Democrats in the United States Senate
voted for S.6211, the Senate's immigration reform bill that would have given
legal status and a path to citizenship to millions of illegal aliens. Did you
support that bill?
Since you know so much about Rep. Tancredo, I have a few questions for
you. What legislation related to immigration or border security that Rep.
Tancredo supports do you oppose. What legislation related to immigration
or border security opposed by Rep. Tancredo do you support?
voted for S.6211, the Senate's immigration reform bill that would have given
legal status and a path to citizenship to millions of illegal aliens. Did you
support that bill?
Since you know so much about Rep. Tancredo, I have a few questions for
you. What legislation related to immigration or border security that Rep.
Tancredo supports do you oppose. What legislation related to immigration
or border security opposed by Rep. Tancredo do you support?
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02/28/07 @ 10:32
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell, you claim that Rep. Tancredo's congressional districts is racist.
What other congressional districts are racist?
What other congressional districts are racist?
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02/28/07 @ 10:34
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell:
Did you support CAFTA?
Did you support the Chile Free Trade Agreement?
Did you support the Singapore Free Trade Agreement?
Do you support the Free Trade Area of the Americas?
Conservative
Did you support CAFTA?
Did you support the Chile Free Trade Agreement?
Did you support the Singapore Free Trade Agreement?
Do you support the Free Trade Area of the Americas?
Conservative
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02/28/07 @ 10:35
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell, you stated:
"Mississippi is a Third World and so is Alabama and Arkansas and yes, Lousiiana...it is already a Third World dump before the Hispanics came in. It is only making it more of a Third World. After all, people of like mentality attract each other."
You claim that four (4) southern states were third world dumps "before the
Hispanics came in". Are any other states third world dumps? Is California a
third world dump? Is Colorado a third world dump?
With regard to like mentality, please describe the mentality of the Hispanics to
which you are referring.
"Mississippi is a Third World and so is Alabama and Arkansas and yes, Lousiiana...it is already a Third World dump before the Hispanics came in. It is only making it more of a Third World. After all, people of like mentality attract each other."
You claim that four (4) southern states were third world dumps "before the
Hispanics came in". Are any other states third world dumps? Is California a
third world dump? Is Colorado a third world dump?
With regard to like mentality, please describe the mentality of the Hispanics to
which you are referring.
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02/28/07 @ 10:40
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
Jim Webb is not running for president. The Democratic candidates are Clinton,
Obama, Edwards, Richardson, Biden and Dodd. Which of those Democratic candidates
do you believe would make a good president?
Obama, Edwards, Richardson, Biden and Dodd. Which of those Democratic candidates
do you believe would make a good president?
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02/28/07 @ 10:42
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"Jim Webb is not running for president. The Democratic candidates are Clinton,
Obama, Edwards, Richardson, Biden and Dodd. Which of those Democratic candidates
do you believe would make a good president?"
None of them actually.
You claim that four (4) southern states were third world dumps "before the
Hispanics came in". Are any other states third world dumps? Is California a
third world dump? Is Colorado a third world dump?
California still has the highest per capita GDP than most countries in the world and much higher than the US average. If you want white states, go to Vermont, New Hampshire or upstate New York...still very white (not just the snow)..but not Thrid World. Now if you want a real white Third World dump with no immigrants go to West Virginia. Actually I am a little surprised that Hispanics are not attracted to the white Third World dump called West Virginia...Lily White, Dirt poor!!
Regarding Free Trade agreements..in principle no, in practice I have no choice if I value my retirement, pensions and want to survive comfortably. As I said, the punishment of FTA fits the crime called American indebtedness. Since I believe in the death penalty for murder, I believe in the punishment called FTA for the crime of indebtedness committed by the Americans. You play, you pay..Before 1982 we did not have FTA did we...we did not need to...we were a creditor nation...other nations were indebted to us..now the tables are turned and FTA is the consequence. If you believe in death penalty for murder you believe in FTA for the crime called indebtedness...pay up and we can pull out of FTA. As far as I am concerned to hell with sovereignty if my livelihood is in danger!! And I did not put the country in this predicament.
Obama, Edwards, Richardson, Biden and Dodd. Which of those Democratic candidates
do you believe would make a good president?"
None of them actually.
You claim that four (4) southern states were third world dumps "before the
Hispanics came in". Are any other states third world dumps? Is California a
third world dump? Is Colorado a third world dump?
California still has the highest per capita GDP than most countries in the world and much higher than the US average. If you want white states, go to Vermont, New Hampshire or upstate New York...still very white (not just the snow)..but not Thrid World. Now if you want a real white Third World dump with no immigrants go to West Virginia. Actually I am a little surprised that Hispanics are not attracted to the white Third World dump called West Virginia...Lily White, Dirt poor!!
Regarding Free Trade agreements..in principle no, in practice I have no choice if I value my retirement, pensions and want to survive comfortably. As I said, the punishment of FTA fits the crime called American indebtedness. Since I believe in the death penalty for murder, I believe in the punishment called FTA for the crime of indebtedness committed by the Americans. You play, you pay..Before 1982 we did not have FTA did we...we did not need to...we were a creditor nation...other nations were indebted to us..now the tables are turned and FTA is the consequence. If you believe in death penalty for murder you believe in FTA for the crime called indebtedness...pay up and we can pull out of FTA. As far as I am concerned to hell with sovereignty if my livelihood is in danger!! And I did not put the country in this predicament.
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02/28/07 @ 11:02
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Actually, I am a liitle surprised that Democrats who have written of WV have not called int a Third World dump in response to Tancredo's Miami comments...it is as much a Third World dump as any non-white and white areas of the South.
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02/28/07 @ 11:04
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
Among the many candidates that have announced they are running for
president, what candidates or candidates do you believe would make a good
president?
Can you not name one Democrat that is running for president that you believe
would make a good president?
president, what candidates or candidates do you believe would make a good
president?
Can you not name one Democrat that is running for president that you believe
would make a good president?
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02/28/07 @ 11:10
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
Based on your above comments, you support CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade
Agreement, the Singapore Free Trade Agreement and the FTAA. You
apparently support them because of " the crime of indebtedness committed by the Americans". Both you and President Bush support all of those agreements. I
do not support them. I believe they are bad for the American worker. I believe
CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade Agreement and the Singapore Free Trade
Agreement will cost thousands of Americans their jobs.
Agreement, the Singapore Free Trade Agreement and the FTAA. You
apparently support them because of " the crime of indebtedness committed by the Americans". Both you and President Bush support all of those agreements. I
do not support them. I believe they are bad for the American worker. I believe
CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade Agreement and the Singapore Free Trade
Agreement will cost thousands of Americans their jobs.
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02/28/07 @ 11:17
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
Before you post any more lies about congressmen being Tancredo clones, you
should research the voting records of those congressmen. Like you, both Rep.
Ryun and Rep. Sweeney supported the Singapore Free Trade Agreement.
should research the voting records of those congressmen. Like you, both Rep.
Ryun and Rep. Sweeney supported the Singapore Free Trade Agreement.
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02/28/07 @ 11:19
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
If Rep. Tancredo's district is so racist, I wonder why you have spent time in his
district.
district.
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02/28/07 @ 11:20
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"Based on your above comments, you support CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade
Agreement, the Singapore Free Trade Agreement and the FTAA. You
apparently support them because of " the crime of indebtedness committed by the Americans". Both you and President Bush support all of those agreements. I
do not support them. I believe they are bad for the American worker. I believe
CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade Agreement and the Singapore Free Trade
Agreement will cost thousands of Americans their jobs. "
When we stop accepting jobs from Japanese and German corporations we can talk about that. It is a two way street. Singapore's standard of living is higher than all but ten American states. West Virginia and Mississippi are dumps compared to Singapore. Actually, wages are higher over there..and no foolish American corporation will leave this country to employ expensive Singaporeans over cheap wage Americans...just like no american corporations will leave our shores to employ expensive Japanese and Germans at the expense of low wage Americans. So your argument is nonsense regarding some of the ese countries although you make a good point regarding CAFTA and NAFTA. You have to be afraid of one thing...white Americans dont have half the math and science ability of the Singaporeans. So learn to compete instead of whining.
You can argue all you want...not very different from a life in prison inmate who wants his freedom...if you play you will pay...punishment fits the crime...and the Americans are complicit in this...last I saw Bush won by 51% of the votes...and the overwhelming majority of the white southerners voted for him...and I will bet that if he were the GOP nominee they will vote for him again.
"If Rep. Tancredo's district is so racist, I wonder why you have spent time in his
district."
Why should n't I?
Agreement, the Singapore Free Trade Agreement and the FTAA. You
apparently support them because of " the crime of indebtedness committed by the Americans". Both you and President Bush support all of those agreements. I
do not support them. I believe they are bad for the American worker. I believe
CAFTA, the Chile Free Trade Agreement and the Singapore Free Trade
Agreement will cost thousands of Americans their jobs. "
When we stop accepting jobs from Japanese and German corporations we can talk about that. It is a two way street. Singapore's standard of living is higher than all but ten American states. West Virginia and Mississippi are dumps compared to Singapore. Actually, wages are higher over there..and no foolish American corporation will leave this country to employ expensive Singaporeans over cheap wage Americans...just like no american corporations will leave our shores to employ expensive Japanese and Germans at the expense of low wage Americans. So your argument is nonsense regarding some of the ese countries although you make a good point regarding CAFTA and NAFTA. You have to be afraid of one thing...white Americans dont have half the math and science ability of the Singaporeans. So learn to compete instead of whining.
You can argue all you want...not very different from a life in prison inmate who wants his freedom...if you play you will pay...punishment fits the crime...and the Americans are complicit in this...last I saw Bush won by 51% of the votes...and the overwhelming majority of the white southerners voted for him...and I will bet that if he were the GOP nominee they will vote for him again.
"If Rep. Tancredo's district is so racist, I wonder why you have spent time in his
district."
Why should n't I?
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02/28/07 @ 11:41
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
If you loose thousands of jobs to Singaporeans despite their very high wages relative to low wage West Virginia and other Third World dumps, the residents of these states themselves have to blame....so far it is not happening. Japanese corporations are moving into Mississippi in droves attracted by cheap labor, the Germans have moved into South Carolina and Alabama attracted by cheap wages, the French are moving in...it is the Americans who are gaining from cheap wages, not Singaporeans or Japanese or Germans or Italians...now before you say what about US corporations? They are not moving anywhere much...many are under the threat of bankruptcy. I think it is great that Japanese are employing cheap American workers...after all white American corporation executirves are so incompetent they cannot even employ cheaper Mexicans.
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02/28/07 @ 11:46
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Conservative:
First, ask your white American executive friends in GM, Ford, Delta, Northwest, United, American and USAir as to why they cannot even employ cheap Mexicans while the Toyotas, Hondas and Subarus are employng low wage white Americans...and then talk about Free Trade treaties.
First, ask your white American executive friends in GM, Ford, Delta, Northwest, United, American and USAir as to why they cannot even employ cheap Mexicans while the Toyotas, Hondas and Subarus are employng low wage white Americans...and then talk about Free Trade treaties.
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02/28/07 @ 11:52
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
G. Chell,
I also can't help but wonder why you still choose to live in the US if you hate so many of its people and even entire states, as well as those people of Sicilian ancestry.
If we are to take you seriously, American industry and all its executives are third rate, and whole sections of this nation are populated with nothing but stupid red-necks. Why not get out as fast as you can? Cuba would probably welcome someone with your sentiments. And they need people to replace those who come here in makeshift rafts. You know, those ingrates who don't appreciate all that Daddy Fidel has done for them.
It would be interesting for us serious posters on this board for you to tell us how old you are, as well as your life and work experiences, you know, schooling, travel, military service, etc.
I also can't help but wonder why you still choose to live in the US if you hate so many of its people and even entire states, as well as those people of Sicilian ancestry.
If we are to take you seriously, American industry and all its executives are third rate, and whole sections of this nation are populated with nothing but stupid red-necks. Why not get out as fast as you can? Cuba would probably welcome someone with your sentiments. And they need people to replace those who come here in makeshift rafts. You know, those ingrates who don't appreciate all that Daddy Fidel has done for them.
It would be interesting for us serious posters on this board for you to tell us how old you are, as well as your life and work experiences, you know, schooling, travel, military service, etc.
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02/28/07 @ 12:02
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"I also can't help but wonder why you still choose to live in the US if you hate so many of its people and even entire states, as well as those people of Sicilian ancestry."
Hating one racist of Sicilian origin does not mean I hate all persons of Sicilian ancestry although like the Hispanics all of you and Tancredo love to quote the Sicilians brought in more than their share of gangs and killings which continues till today..Irish used to do it but they have gotten over it.
"If we are to take you seriously, American industry and all its executives are third rate, and whole sections of this nation are populated with nothing but stupid red-necks. Why not get out as fast as you can? Cuba would probably welcome someone with your sentiments. And they need people to replace those who come here in makeshift rafts. You know, those ingrates who don't appreciate all that Daddy Fidel has done for them."
Comment: I am not setting the record straight. Ask your white American executives why they are under threat of bankruptcy and why our people have to be employed by foreigners from Japan and Germany..why they are laying off people, not moving jobs but filing for bankruptcy. It would do this country some good. Daddy Fidel is a non issue here. I did not bring him up. When someone says get out of the country, that person has lost the argument...it is a fact, is n't it? Is n't that what we are all complaining about...our good old white executives screwing everyone while Japanese and Germans employ Americans?
Hating one racist of Sicilian origin does not mean I hate all persons of Sicilian ancestry although like the Hispanics all of you and Tancredo love to quote the Sicilians brought in more than their share of gangs and killings which continues till today..Irish used to do it but they have gotten over it.
"If we are to take you seriously, American industry and all its executives are third rate, and whole sections of this nation are populated with nothing but stupid red-necks. Why not get out as fast as you can? Cuba would probably welcome someone with your sentiments. And they need people to replace those who come here in makeshift rafts. You know, those ingrates who don't appreciate all that Daddy Fidel has done for them."
Comment: I am not setting the record straight. Ask your white American executives why they are under threat of bankruptcy and why our people have to be employed by foreigners from Japan and Germany..why they are laying off people, not moving jobs but filing for bankruptcy. It would do this country some good. Daddy Fidel is a non issue here. I did not bring him up. When someone says get out of the country, that person has lost the argument...it is a fact, is n't it? Is n't that what we are all complaining about...our good old white executives screwing everyone while Japanese and Germans employ Americans?
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02/28/07 @ 12:18
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
I will leave the US when it becomes a basket case like Mexico. Send the Japanese and German corporations home we will be in the poor house pretty soon...dont expect our fellow race of men and women...whites to replace them..they have not proved to be too reliable in the past...they wont move jobs abroad, but they will do leverage buyouts, hostile takeovers, enrich themselves while the rest of the corporation goes down and people loose their jobs.
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02/28/07 @ 12:21
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Alex:
Give you a clue..
Do you know what it feels like to fight the Japanese and Germans and hope that your fellow whites would give you a job and then find out that your fellow white lays you ffo and then you have to look to the old enemies for work/
Give you a clue..
Do you know what it feels like to fight the Japanese and Germans and hope that your fellow whites would give you a job and then find out that your fellow white lays you ffo and then you have to look to the old enemies for work/
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02/28/07 @ 12:26
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
William K Wolfrum,
When you bring up something like illegal immigration on a golfing blog, it attracts characters like G. Chell who usually rant on blogs like Daily Kos and Democratic Underground.
It's humorous at first, but it gets old fast, as these people have a never-ending supply of anti-American talking points at the ready.
Of course, it's you blog, and if you see nothing amiss by the direction that this has gone, it's all right by me.
When you bring up something like illegal immigration on a golfing blog, it attracts characters like G. Chell who usually rant on blogs like Daily Kos and Democratic Underground.
It's humorous at first, but it gets old fast, as these people have a never-ending supply of anti-American talking points at the ready.
Of course, it's you blog, and if you see nothing amiss by the direction that this has gone, it's all right by me.
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02/28/07 @ 12:27
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Yeah Alex, gets old fast...you dont have any more rebuttals...dont you..I did not support illegals...except totally agree with Wolfrum on Tancredo...more power to him and may his tribe increase...
Wolfurm is a very astute and smart fellow unlike Alex, redneck masquerading as a conservative and others who run out of rebuttals and ask you to leave the country.
Wolfurm is a very astute and smart fellow unlike Alex, redneck masquerading as a conservative and others who run out of rebuttals and ask you to leave the country.
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02/28/07 @ 12:29
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
G. Chell,
I have many more things I could tell you as to my life and work experiences, military service, raising and educating a family, etc.
But I'm sure that you don't want to hear anything uplifting or encouraging.
In short, although you may not be a blithering idiot, and an anti-American imbecile,you're close. You'll have to do , I guess
I have many more things I could tell you as to my life and work experiences, military service, raising and educating a family, etc.
But I'm sure that you don't want to hear anything uplifting or encouraging.
In short, although you may not be a blithering idiot, and an anti-American imbecile,you're close. You'll have to do , I guess
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02/28/07 @ 12:40
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"In short, although you may not be a blithering idiot, and an anti-American imbecile,you're close. You'll have to do , I guess."
Comment: As I said, if you run out of rebuttals..you resort to name calling...typical..I wont stoop down to your level.
Comment: As I said, if you run out of rebuttals..you resort to name calling...typical..I wont stoop down to your level.
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02/28/07 @ 13:01
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
G. Chell,
Your memory is also short. You referred to me as a redneck. Is that not namecalling?. But I kind of like it.
G., I think I have you pegged. You're a late teen or early twenties college dropout.Your grades weren't good, but you did take the hook from your political science instructor.
You have never held a steady job at a profit-making concern, and with your attitude you probably will never hold a decent job.
To your way of thinking, all business owners, no matter how small or hard-working , are robber barons climbing the ladder of success over the prostrate corpses of their serfs.
You' ve never been married, you have no children, which you think are nuisances, you've never served your country in any branch of the military, in fact, you despise the military and everyone in it.
You live at home with either or both of your parents, whose most fervent wish is that you would find a job, any job, and find your own apartment.
And, you fancy yourself as an intellectual, one of the enlightened intelligentsia,
far removed from those flag-waving rednecks in West Virginia. In your mind, you are super smart and the rest of the dummy, racist Confederates in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas are just too dense to realize it. Tell the truth G., how close am I to your biography?
Your memory is also short. You referred to me as a redneck. Is that not namecalling?. But I kind of like it.
G., I think I have you pegged. You're a late teen or early twenties college dropout.Your grades weren't good, but you did take the hook from your political science instructor.
You have never held a steady job at a profit-making concern, and with your attitude you probably will never hold a decent job.
To your way of thinking, all business owners, no matter how small or hard-working , are robber barons climbing the ladder of success over the prostrate corpses of their serfs.
You' ve never been married, you have no children, which you think are nuisances, you've never served your country in any branch of the military, in fact, you despise the military and everyone in it.
You live at home with either or both of your parents, whose most fervent wish is that you would find a job, any job, and find your own apartment.
And, you fancy yourself as an intellectual, one of the enlightened intelligentsia,
far removed from those flag-waving rednecks in West Virginia. In your mind, you are super smart and the rest of the dummy, racist Confederates in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas are just too dense to realize it. Tell the truth G., how close am I to your biography?
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02/28/07 @ 13:28
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell:
I wonder if the "educated rednecks" and "white flighters " in Rep. Tancredo's district know the difference between "mute" and "moot".
Most native Southerners with a high school degree know the difference between "mute" and "moot", but you don't.
I wonder if the "educated rednecks" and "white flighters " in Rep. Tancredo's district know the difference between "mute" and "moot".
Most native Southerners with a high school degree know the difference between "mute" and "moot", but you don't.
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02/28/07 @ 14:07
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell:
Among the many candidates that have announced they are running for
president, what candidates or candidates do you believe would make a good
president?
Can you name one Democrat that is running for president that you believe
would make a good president?
Conservative
Among the many candidates that have announced they are running for
president, what candidates or candidates do you believe would make a good
president?
Can you name one Democrat that is running for president that you believe
would make a good president?
Conservative
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02/28/07 @ 14:09
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell:
In 2006, forty-one of the forty-five Democrats in the United States Senate
voted for S.6211, the Senate's immigration reform bill that would have given
legal status and a path to citizenship to millions of illegal aliens. Did you
support that bill?
Since you know so much about Rep. Tancredo, I have a few questions for
you. What legislation related to immigration or border security that Rep.
Tancredo supports do you oppose. What legislation related to immigration
or border security opposed by Rep. Tancredo do you support?
Conservative
In 2006, forty-one of the forty-five Democrats in the United States Senate
voted for S.6211, the Senate's immigration reform bill that would have given
legal status and a path to citizenship to millions of illegal aliens. Did you
support that bill?
Since you know so much about Rep. Tancredo, I have a few questions for
you. What legislation related to immigration or border security that Rep.
Tancredo supports do you oppose. What legislation related to immigration
or border security opposed by Rep. Tancredo do you support?
Conservative
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02/28/07 @ 14:10
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Conservative,
I think that my assessment of G. Chell was fairly accurate.
I'd wager that he never voted in a national election until 2006, if he voted then.
That's why he is so excited about the narrow majority that the Democrats won in 2006 in both houses of Congress.
He doesn't know that historically the party out of power gains seats in mid-term elections.
And the hatred he has for the United States and all things American can only be the result of a few years of radical, liberal education(?).
I think that my assessment of G. Chell was fairly accurate.
I'd wager that he never voted in a national election until 2006, if he voted then.
That's why he is so excited about the narrow majority that the Democrats won in 2006 in both houses of Congress.
He doesn't know that historically the party out of power gains seats in mid-term elections.
And the hatred he has for the United States and all things American can only be the result of a few years of radical, liberal education(?).
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02/28/07 @ 15:06
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
G. Chell:
What is your solution with regard to dealing with the millions of illegal aliens in
this country?
Conservative
What is your solution with regard to dealing with the millions of illegal aliens in
this country?
Conservative
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02/28/07 @ 16:54
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor]
G. Chell,
Allow me to educate you a bit. First, I'm no southerner, although I certainly would be proud to be one if I were. I actually was raised in New York City and still live in its environs.
Secondly, the reason why I would gladly wave the Confederate Flag is that, unlike you, I understand something beyond labor union talking points. There was nothing -- I repeat, NOTHING -- in the Constitution prior to the War Between the States that prohibited a state from seceding. Ours was meant to be a voluntary union, not a coercive one such as the USSR, which, I might add, we railed against when it wouldn't afford its outer territories the right to self-determination. Thus, since the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, Lincoln's actions in warring against the South were illegal.
Now, I'm a reasonable and fair man (and always right about these matters), so I won't give in to emotionalism and demonize Lincoln unfairly. I think he was a very decent man who had good intentions; however, that doesn't alter the fact that his actions were misguided, illegal, and led to the bloodiest war in US history.
He also set a terrible precedent. You see, because we now operate under the assumption that states cannot secede, the central government can become as tyrannical and intrusive as it pleases with impunity; in other words, the balance of power has been disturbed, a great check on federal power has been removed.
In summary, by definition the Conferderates were not traitors because they were not betraying their country; rather, they were exercising their constitutional prerogative to secede. They simply decided to leave the union in the same way that states had voluntarily decided to join it.
Allow me to educate you a bit. First, I'm no southerner, although I certainly would be proud to be one if I were. I actually was raised in New York City and still live in its environs.
Secondly, the reason why I would gladly wave the Confederate Flag is that, unlike you, I understand something beyond labor union talking points. There was nothing -- I repeat, NOTHING -- in the Constitution prior to the War Between the States that prohibited a state from seceding. Ours was meant to be a voluntary union, not a coercive one such as the USSR, which, I might add, we railed against when it wouldn't afford its outer territories the right to self-determination. Thus, since the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, Lincoln's actions in warring against the South were illegal.
Now, I'm a reasonable and fair man (and always right about these matters), so I won't give in to emotionalism and demonize Lincoln unfairly. I think he was a very decent man who had good intentions; however, that doesn't alter the fact that his actions were misguided, illegal, and led to the bloodiest war in US history.
He also set a terrible precedent. You see, because we now operate under the assumption that states cannot secede, the central government can become as tyrannical and intrusive as it pleases with impunity; in other words, the balance of power has been disturbed, a great check on federal power has been removed.
In summary, by definition the Conferderates were not traitors because they were not betraying their country; rather, they were exercising their constitutional prerogative to secede. They simply decided to leave the union in the same way that states had voluntarily decided to join it.
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02/28/07 @ 16:57
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"What is your solution with regard to dealing with the millions of illegal aliens in
this country?"
Send them home. Remove all incentives for them to come here. I can talk about this all day, but it will take at least ten pages.
this country?"
Send them home. Remove all incentives for them to come here. I can talk about this all day, but it will take at least ten pages.
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02/28/07 @ 17:09
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor]
I also want to mention that a few years ago I spent three weeks to a month traveling around West Virginia, driving the back roads, exploring backwaters and investigating interesting nooks and crannies. And I, a New Yorker, went there precisely because I love the hinterlands, pastoral, bucolic places untainted by the "civilization" you seem to hold so dear.
As for the people, I found them to be helpful, down-to-earth, unaffected and wholesome. Of course, though, unlike you, Chell, I didn't view them through the prism of a miseducated and unjustifiably elitist mind.
Whatsa matter, union boy? Lost your factory job?
As for the people, I found them to be helpful, down-to-earth, unaffected and wholesome. Of course, though, unlike you, Chell, I didn't view them through the prism of a miseducated and unjustifiably elitist mind.
Whatsa matter, union boy? Lost your factory job?
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02/28/07 @ 17:11
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
In 2006, forty-one of the forty-five Democrats in the United States Senate
voted for S.6211, the Senate's immigration reform bill that would have given
legal status and a path to citizenship to millions of illegal aliens. Did you
support that bill?
Those who ran for elections did get elected did n't they. If the people were so riled about it they would have thrown them out, particularly Bill Nelson of Florida and they would have re-elected Rick Santorum against Bill "the amnesty" Casey.
"Since you know so much about Rep. Tancredo, I have a few questions for
you. What legislation related to immigration or border security that Rep.
Tancredo supports do you oppose. What legislation related to immigration
or border security opposed by Rep. Tancredo do you support?"
I dont oppose anything he says about immigration. But he is a hypocrite. He opposes immigration not for protecting the American worker (which by his no vote on minimum wage he has proved that he is not interested in doing) but because of plain bigotry. Message is fine, but the messenger is a racist. If he were n't he would be decrying the corporations for paying low wages to the workers just like when he opposes immigration he says that the American workers are screwed. However, the voters in Colorado sixth have as much right to elect Tancredo as the voters of PA had the right to elect Amnesty Casey. As you say Dem Senators voted heavily for amnesty and the voters rewarded them with a majorituy. Reality? If you dont like it there is another election on November 4, 2008. Convince the American people to change direction and elect a GOP House and Senate.
voted for S.6211, the Senate's immigration reform bill that would have given
legal status and a path to citizenship to millions of illegal aliens. Did you
support that bill?
Those who ran for elections did get elected did n't they. If the people were so riled about it they would have thrown them out, particularly Bill Nelson of Florida and they would have re-elected Rick Santorum against Bill "the amnesty" Casey.
"Since you know so much about Rep. Tancredo, I have a few questions for
you. What legislation related to immigration or border security that Rep.
Tancredo supports do you oppose. What legislation related to immigration
or border security opposed by Rep. Tancredo do you support?"
I dont oppose anything he says about immigration. But he is a hypocrite. He opposes immigration not for protecting the American worker (which by his no vote on minimum wage he has proved that he is not interested in doing) but because of plain bigotry. Message is fine, but the messenger is a racist. If he were n't he would be decrying the corporations for paying low wages to the workers just like when he opposes immigration he says that the American workers are screwed. However, the voters in Colorado sixth have as much right to elect Tancredo as the voters of PA had the right to elect Amnesty Casey. As you say Dem Senators voted heavily for amnesty and the voters rewarded them with a majorituy. Reality? If you dont like it there is another election on November 4, 2008. Convince the American people to change direction and elect a GOP House and Senate.
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02/28/07 @ 17:15
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"I also want to mention that a few years ago I spent three weeks to a month traveling around West Virginia, driving the back roads, exploring backwaters and investigating interesting nooks and crannies. And I, a New Yorker, went there precisely because I love the hinterlands, pastoral, bucolic places untainted by the "civilization" you seem to hold so dear."
Comment: If you want to be dirt poor, without electricity, good idea.
"As for the people, I found them to be helpful, down-to-earth, unaffected and wholesome. Of course, though, unlike you, Chell, I didn't view them through the prism of a miseducated and unjustifiably elitist mind."
Comment: Poor people everywhere have no choice but to be down to earth. That is not my vision for America.
"Whatsa matter, union boy? Lost your factory job?"
No. My employers are German..I would never again work for an American executive scumbag who lays off people and sends jobs abroad, exactly the same thing that the conservative is complaining about. When we send the German and Japanese jobs back to their home countries I will fight tooth and nail against free trade. Until then, I have no choice but to support foreign employers in this country and against American employers who are only interested in enriching themselves.
Comment: If you want to be dirt poor, without electricity, good idea.
"As for the people, I found them to be helpful, down-to-earth, unaffected and wholesome. Of course, though, unlike you, Chell, I didn't view them through the prism of a miseducated and unjustifiably elitist mind."
Comment: Poor people everywhere have no choice but to be down to earth. That is not my vision for America.
"Whatsa matter, union boy? Lost your factory job?"
No. My employers are German..I would never again work for an American executive scumbag who lays off people and sends jobs abroad, exactly the same thing that the conservative is complaining about. When we send the German and Japanese jobs back to their home countries I will fight tooth and nail against free trade. Until then, I have no choice but to support foreign employers in this country and against American employers who are only interested in enriching themselves.
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02/28/07 @ 17:20
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Judge:
By your argument people should be allowed to secede. We will agree to disagree.
By your argument people should be allowed to secede. We will agree to disagree.
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02/28/07 @ 17:21
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
"G., I think I have you pegged. You're a late teen or early twenties college dropout.Your grades weren't good, but you did take the hook from your political science instructor.
You have never held a steady job at a profit-making concern, and with your attitude you probably will never hold a decent job."
Guess again. Also guess where I live.
You have never held a steady job at a profit-making concern, and with your attitude you probably will never hold a decent job."
Guess again. Also guess where I live.
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02/28/07 @ 17:23
Comment from: G. Chell [Visitor]
Except probably Judge the rest of you have no arguments or rebuttals other than name calling and patronizing and taking on personal issues. I am done with this argument. Have a nice day.
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02/28/07 @ 17:26
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
JUdge Smails,
As I said previously, I seriously doubt that G. Chell has ever had a meaningful job of any kind.
He sounds like the type of crackpot that thinks President Bush is on the verge of being impeached, removed from office, and imprisoned, at which time John Kerry and Al Gore will flip a coin as to who will be President and Vice President.
He really should get out of his Mother's basement room, find an apartment, and learn to make his own way in the real world. Will he do it? Nah!
As I said previously, I seriously doubt that G. Chell has ever had a meaningful job of any kind.
He sounds like the type of crackpot that thinks President Bush is on the verge of being impeached, removed from office, and imprisoned, at which time John Kerry and Al Gore will flip a coin as to who will be President and Vice President.
He really should get out of his Mother's basement room, find an apartment, and learn to make his own way in the real world. Will he do it? Nah!
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02/28/07 @ 17:29
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor]
Alex,
He seems like a labor-union-uber-alles type, someone who thinks that the rest of the world owes him a living.
Chell,
Based on your answer, it's obvious that you misunderstood my argument. The Constitution deals with certain government entities, among them being the federal and state governments. The Founding Fathers were suspicious of and antagonistic toward government and, consequently, did their best to preclude the development of a tyrannical central government. To this end, they delineated the boundaries for the feds and the rights of the states.
Anyway, the point is that we are the United STATES of America, not the United INDIVIDUALS of America. States have certain rights under the Constitution that both the feds and individuals don't have, and, again, we are governed by our founding document. Thus, there is no equivalency between the secession of a state and that of an individual.
He seems like a labor-union-uber-alles type, someone who thinks that the rest of the world owes him a living.
Chell,
Based on your answer, it's obvious that you misunderstood my argument. The Constitution deals with certain government entities, among them being the federal and state governments. The Founding Fathers were suspicious of and antagonistic toward government and, consequently, did their best to preclude the development of a tyrannical central government. To this end, they delineated the boundaries for the feds and the rights of the states.
Anyway, the point is that we are the United STATES of America, not the United INDIVIDUALS of America. States have certain rights under the Constitution that both the feds and individuals don't have, and, again, we are governed by our founding document. Thus, there is no equivalency between the secession of a state and that of an individual.
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02/28/07 @ 18:05
Comment from: Joltin Joe [Visitor]
"By your argument people should be allowed to secede"
Not "by his argument". By an accurate interpretation of the text, intent, and historical framework of the Constitution of the United States. Lincoln irrevocably modified the structure and character of the "Union" when he decided that is was indissoluble under any circumstance, and that violence could be undertaken to force sovereign states to comply with the orders of the President. In effect, he turned the voluntary union into a nation through military conquest and subjugation.
All the flowery speeches in the world (4 score and 7 years etc etc) will not erase the fact that Lincoln simply conquered the Southern states in much the same manner that Napoleon Buonaparte had conquered much of Europe. For the record, Buonaparte claimed he was fighting to free people who were in bondage, as did Lincoln. Sic Semper Tyrannis, indeed!
Not "by his argument". By an accurate interpretation of the text, intent, and historical framework of the Constitution of the United States. Lincoln irrevocably modified the structure and character of the "Union" when he decided that is was indissoluble under any circumstance, and that violence could be undertaken to force sovereign states to comply with the orders of the President. In effect, he turned the voluntary union into a nation through military conquest and subjugation.
All the flowery speeches in the world (4 score and 7 years etc etc) will not erase the fact that Lincoln simply conquered the Southern states in much the same manner that Napoleon Buonaparte had conquered much of Europe. For the record, Buonaparte claimed he was fighting to free people who were in bondage, as did Lincoln. Sic Semper Tyrannis, indeed!
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02/28/07 @ 18:09
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Joltin Joe and Judge Smails,
Come on, guys, you can't expect a genius like G. Chell, a genius who voted for the first time in 2006, an anti-American seditionist like G. Chell ,to understand anything so basic.
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Besides, they didn't teach it that way in Political Science at the Community College that he flunked out of.
Cut him some slack, for goodness sake! He's a moron and proud of it! Maybe he'll outgrow it.
Come on, guys, you can't expect a genius like G. Chell, a genius who voted for the first time in 2006, an anti-American seditionist like G. Chell ,to understand anything so basic.
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Besides, they didn't teach it that way in Political Science at the Community College that he flunked out of.
Cut him some slack, for goodness sake! He's a moron and proud of it! Maybe he'll outgrow it.
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02/28/07 @ 20:35
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Joe and Judge,
I think our friend has bailed out.
I got a kick out of his constant referring to "rebuttals.'
He must have thought he was in a class in debating with a gang of dummies like himself
I think our friend has bailed out.
I got a kick out of his constant referring to "rebuttals.'
He must have thought he was in a class in debating with a gang of dummies like himself
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02/28/07 @ 20:41
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor]
Yes, Alex, perhaps he figured that this place would offer easy pickings and experienced a rude awakening.
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03/01/07 @ 14:40
Comment from: Conservative [Visitor]
William K. Wolfrum, a resident of Uberlandia, Minas Gerais, Brazil, believes that
illegal aliens should be given legal status and a path to citizenship. It is not
surprising, therefore, that he would lie about Rep. Tancredo.
I suggest that Mr. Wolfrum run for elected office in Brazil.
illegal aliens should be given legal status and a path to citizenship. It is not
surprising, therefore, that he would lie about Rep. Tancredo.
I suggest that Mr. Wolfrum run for elected office in Brazil.