« Golfer Un-Supremacy Rankings: Forced by Tiger Woods to focus on the negative Tiger Woods wins PGA Championship, cements position as world's best athlete »

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Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Member] Email
Well said! In this era of instant stories, I think these scribes rush into hyperbole because it is an easy refuge.

Besides, everyone knows that the best athlete ever is Skippy the Waterskiing Squirrel.
2006-08-21 @ 16:35
Comment from: sbrooks [Visitor]
You left out Lance Armstrong. I won't say he is "better" than Tiger, or vice-versa. I will only say that like Tiger, Lance has been just as dominating in his sport, and that it will be a couple of generations or more before anyone challenges his accomplishments.

2006-08-21 @ 16:56
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Name any "Athlete"? How do you define athlete? What's your criteria?

If you want athletes at top physical condition and athletic capabiilty, then I'll give you any NHL player as being a better athlete. Most of those guys are in peak condition for 12 months of the year.
Most golfers and many of you golf scribes really have no idea how fit those guys have to be, just to get on a farm team, let alone a NHL team. Which is also why most American hacks have no idea about hockey or hockey players

Now if you are talking Talent and athletic ability in his chosen sport? Ahh, then I'll go along with your choice of Tiger in this era. Gretzky would have given him a run for his money 10 or 15 years ago but.....
2006-08-21 @ 18:38
Comment from: Brandon Tucker [Member] Email
Every generation and every generation's columnists want to feel what their watching is somehow more special than the previous ones (or else why care?), which is why we're so fast to jump on Lebron, Wie, heck NFL Live on ESPN, were contemplating during the draft: could Reggie Bush be the best all-purpose back ever? Is Tom Brady the most clutch QB, ever? Is Mariano Rivera the most dominant closer, ever? Was Phil's choke at the U.S. Open the worst ever?

Gotta fill a 24-hour sports network somehow...on our TG network we generally fill in gaps with Michelle Wie.

As far as this "generation", I'm not sure whether Tiger goes ahead of Armstrong, frankly because I feel like all we know about Lance is he wins one big-time event a year. Bikers train all year for one event? I don't get it.

And why isn't anyone talking about the Asian hot dog-eating kid? Isn't he dominant? ESPN shows him all the time too! Damn this network! Is he the best hot dog-eater ever??????

2006-08-21 @ 18:53
Comment from: Stephen [Visitor]
Tiger Woods is a dominant sports figure beyond golf because he has consistently performed better than his peers in spite of their continual improvements over the years. He continues to improve himself and make necessary changes toward that his ideal goals. No one saw the blemish during the 3rd round of 65, but Tiger did and made the change for Sunday.

Tiger Woods's mindset and work ethics are in a league of its own. His 12 majors and 51 PGA wins are truly remarkable in a ten-year span.

A side comment about some of Tiger's partners: On the first hole, Luke Donald tried his best to avoid watching Tiger by looking at his shoes as Tiger rolled his putt in. At least Donald fared better than Sergio Garcia at Hoy Lake, though Garcia complained that Tiger got all the breaks while he didn't, hence he couldn't close the deal yesterday.



2006-08-21 @ 21:16
Comment from: bill [Visitor]
I'm ready to concede that Tiger is/will be the greatest golfer ever -- but for one thing (I realize comparing eras is flawed): there are no "studs" to challenge him. Phil, Ernie, Sergio, Vijay, et al, pale in comparison to Arnie, Lee, Gary Player, Tom Watson, Johnny Miller, to name a few....
Ultimately, that will be the only possible flaw on his resume after he's won 25-30 Majors.

BW
2006-08-22 @ 08:17
Comment from: Hockey is a joke [Visitor]
Hockey players are tough guys who possess a great deal of hand eye coordination, but take them off the skates and their just a bunch of bow-legged Canucks with bad teeth and even worse hair.
2006-08-22 @ 09:02
Comment from: Dave Marrandette [Visitor]
Until we can say that my orange tastes like an apple or that my apple tastes like an orange, we'll always be comparing apples and oranges.

Oh, sorry, wrong blog. I meant this for the fruit growers associations of America. (FUGGA)
2006-08-22 @ 09:43
Comment from: Steph [Visitor]
It's ridiculous to say that Tiger's peers aren't as good as those who competed against Jack. Vijay, Phil, Goosen, and Els won majors as well. Besides, Tiger is still 30 years old and he has more to win.

Jack is a great golfer during his time, but to continually say that somehow his majors mean more because the field was better is like saying horse and buggies are better than cars. Each era has its own competitive group.

In the end, there will always those who will always think that Jack is better than Tiger - then there are those who think that each is great in his own time. I wasn't born when Jack played and won his last competitive tournament.

Tiger plays and wins in my era. To me he is truly awesome as an athlete and philanthropist off the green.
2006-08-22 @ 11:28
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Hockey is a joke [Visitor]
Hockey players are tough guys who possess a great deal of hand eye coordination, but take them off the skates and their just a bunch of bow-legged Canucks with bad teeth and even worse hair.
2006-08-22 @ 09:02


Sure.
2006-08-22 @ 13:37
Comment from: Merrin [Visitor]
This is a tough call because ther are different ways to interpret the best 'athlete':

The best professional athlete to play an individual sport? yeah (federer waves his hand in the background).

The best individual pro athlete that employs mental abilities with pure skill to win? yeah. definitely.



or just plain..the best physical athlete? If this one is the case, then you could say Asafa Powell is a better athlete, or that Reggie Bush or or even Ichiro could challenge Tiger.
2006-08-22 @ 19:38
Comment from: Merrin [Visitor]
Bill-
saying Tiger doesnt have any studs to challenge him is weak, he's been the most dominant individual athlete we've seen for this generation.

I think there is a growing murmur of putting down the other player's play as a way of weakening Tiger Wood's feat. I dont buy into that, it's WAY too large a brush to paint so many men with. A few? ok. But ALL the players of the PGA? NO, then you're just looking for reasons to refute what your eyes are telling you.

After all, if Golf has been around for centuries, been played competitively for years upon years, why NOW would the field of individuals just happen to be at it's weakest? Especiall with all the benefits modern technology affords golfers over their predecessors? Are we to assume EVERYONE save one Tiger Woods is an underperformer or inferior to the others who played 30 years ago? come on.
2006-08-22 @ 19:48
Comment from: Amjad Khan [Visitor]
I just dont buy into this Tiger Woods rubbish!.

1) Golf is a minority sport in the world. If america did not care about golf it would be Tiger who????

2) Not exactly a sport where you require athletic ability. Can you imagine Muhammad Ali fighting a guy who is flabby and overweight for a title? Most golfers are like this. True champion athletes play and fight against true atheletes. Golf is a game not a sport in my eyes. Beating old men and overweight players is hardly a great atheltic acheivment. thats why golf is a game and not a true sport.

The greatest sportsman has been Muhammad Ali. He touched and moved people over the world. Tiger woods will never reach that stature for simple reasons he plays GOLF!! A sport that means NOTHING to the vast majority of the worlds population!


2006-08-23 @ 08:39
Comment from: akif nizam [Visitor]
I think you guys are overlooking one small detail in this whole discussion.
GOLF IS NOT A SPORT!!!!!
AND GOLFERS ARE NOT ATHELETES !!!

Golf fits into categories such as bowling, competitive juggling and croquet; things that require skill but no athletic ability; that can fit into the category of " look ma' what I can do".
2006-09-14 @ 09:32
Comment from: GolfIsASkillNotASport [Visitor] Email
Yeah, no, he's a great skilled player, but for people who haven't ever played golf (mostly under age 40) he isn't even an athlete. There's wide generation gap here: sportswriters and anchormen thinks he's Jesus, the good ol' 18-24 demographic knows that Lebron James, A-Rod, or Peyton Manning are much more athletes than Woods ever will be.

Slim waist? Broad shoulders? Hey, join the club, its called keeping fit. I'm like that but I don't consider myself an athlete. One doesn't consider professional wrestlers athletes, but hey, by Wojo's logic, their impressive physique would translate to sports success outside the ring. The focus and indomitable will? Welcome to the world of computer programming, medical surgery, and trying to keep your family of six fed while working three jobs and saving up money so your children can go to college and make a name for themselves. Or, you can give em a golf club, train em from an early age, and have middle-aged sportswriters a chance to fall head over heels in love with them.
2007-08-13 @ 12:05
Comment from: GMC [Visitor]
Best athlete of all time? Golf is a sport but there's no way a golfer should be in this kind of comparison. Let's put it this way, if the only time your heart beats real hard is from nervousness and not from physical activity, you have'nt done enough to prove you belong in this comparison. Do you know your history? The best athlete ever was maybe somebody like Jim Thorpe from the 1930's. Now there's an athlete.
2007-10-10 @ 20:23

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