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Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
How tall does a girl have to be to avoid the patronizing term "little"?
And just because Michelle likes to dress fashionably doesn't mean she is interested in whatever it is that would correspond to the interests of a minx.

I seriously question your ethics calling Michelle Wie a minx in one sentence--and then talking about enjoying getting a case of the clap in the next two.
08/09/06 @ 21:10
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Willie K, Go ahead and have your fun. Laugh at Ghet Rheel. This man knows! You probably don't believe in the anesthetic powers of chemtrails, either. Don't think for one minute that you might not be served with papers in
child abuse" litigation. Operation Astroturf is alive and well!
08/09/06 @ 21:20
Comment from: Brandon Tucker [Member] Email
I didn't know Brazilian coffee came laced with PCP - the only explanation for this either genius or insane post.
08/09/06 @ 22:33
Comment from: Tim McDonald [Member] Email
Hilarious!
08/10/06 @ 07:13
Wolfrum, meet me in my office when you have a minute. Bring your keys.
08/10/06 @ 08:01
Comment from: Shanks [Member] Email
Great style piece! But keep an eye out for the Cheap Yellow Bastard.
08/10/06 @ 08:02
Comment from: Dave Marrandette [Visitor]
And where exactly is this coffee shop?
08/10/06 @ 09:37
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Blog-Boy

Nice job! Very funny! By the way, how many hits did you get on Google when you typed in "blog" and "astroturf"?

So, the existance of phony "grassroots PR campaigns" came as news to you? The New York Times wrote about phony astroturf PR campaigns as early as 2003.

Who could possibly benefit from discrediting a world-wide marketing phenomenon like MW? Gee, it may take a world-class genius to solve that imposing puzzle. Wow, what a stumper!

Anyway, thanks for shining a spotlight on the issue - Ghet Rheel
08/10/06 @ 12:17
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel, Please accept my most humble apologies for questioning the veracity and substance of your Astroturf claims. I was sure that you had said the source of you information was the Wall Street Journal. I never put credence to the writings in that rag. The are just lackeys of the robber baron corporations and are thus to be distrusted. However, you have now corrected that mistaken notion. Actually, the Astroturf conspiracy was exposed in 2003 by none other than the NEW YORK TIMES, that scrupulously honest and truthful icon of American journalism. The Times has never, ever printed anything that could even be construed as an exaggeration. The motto of the Times is "All the news that's fit to print." Some people think that it should be edited to read "All the news that fits."
08/10/06 @ 15:24
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Yup

New York Times in 2003
Wall Street Journal last week
Wall Street Journal 3-21-05

500,000+ hits on Google - all point to astroturf being used as a deceptive device to make phony PR efforts look like grassroots swellings of genuine public opinion.
08/10/06 @ 15:50
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Alex's comment:
"Actually, the Astroturf conspiracy was exposed in 2003 by none other than the NEW YORK TIMES"

Not true AstroAlex.
Astroturf PR campaigns were uncovered years before 2003 by a number of Blog editors. The New York Times reference marked the first time the mainstream media used the term "astroturf" to refer to phony PR efforts.
08/10/06 @ 16:27
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel, Judge Smails never told me of the depth of the clandestine effort being orchestrated by the enemies of Bubbles. Had I known of it, I would have held out for a bigger piece of the pie. I was told by the initiators of Operation Astroturf that its only purpose was to cause the downfall of the Korean community. Being an overt racist, that was enough for me. But now that I realize that there's big money out there, I want my cut. Judge Smails, have you been holding out on me?
08/10/06 @ 17:42
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
AstroAlex
Your comment:
"Being an overt racist, that was enough for me."

Yes, It is also my opinion that you are an overt racist.
08/10/06 @ 17:58
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Alex - Need proof as to why I believe you are a racist? No problem. Here are a few racially offensive comments you’ve made in the past day or so:

You wrote them on Brandon Tucker’s blog titled, “Should Michelle Wie have won U.S. Amateur before going pro, like Tiger did thrice?”


On 08/09/06 at 09:21, regarding BJ Wie, you wrote:
Does he still work in his field, or does he manage Bubbles' career exclusively? Did he just crawl out of a bomb crater at Inchon? Or does he just refuse to adopt US customs and mores?

On 08/09/06 at 22:08 you wrote:
How about the one at the Chinese laundry. You know, "no tickee, no washee."

On 08/10/06 at 15:39 you wrote:
One-Putt, Did the elderly Korean gentleman who delivered that stirring bit of prose speak in Korean or English? Is it verbatim or a loose translation? If it's the former, he speaks the absolute best English of any Asian person in history. If it's the latter, you have a greater ability in Korean to English translation and interpretation than 99.9% of Asian scholars in this country.

Need more?

08/10/06 @ 18:51
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
You know, Ghet SurRheel, when you first began posting here, hallucinating about imaginary lawsuits against Bubbles' critics, I figured that you were being facetious, trying to hit the hornet's nest with a stick. Then you went into your "child abuse" mode , and I began to wonder if you were so clueless as to really believe such tripe. I was having a difficult time believing that even an obvious dunce such as you could wallow in stupidity so readily. But when you went off the deep end with your Astroturf fantasy and stuck with it, I became a true believer. Ghet, you actually are that dumb! You are a world-class imbecile! Willie K is making sport of your idiotic Astroturf spiel and you think he is taking you seriously. I make a ridiculous remark about being a racist and you believe it. Man, it must hurt to be so crazy! I'd strongly suggest that you get some psychiatric help, but I really don't think it would change a thing with you. You are absolutely, positively beyond hope.
08/10/06 @ 21:01
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
AstroAlex

If you hade made one, "ridiculous remark about being a racist", I'd have let it go. But you make racist and sexist remarks multiple times daily. You're a crude cur and everyone who reads these blogs knows it.

Find something you like in life. Quit badgering underaged girls. Grow up.







08/10/06 @ 21:47
Comment from: Shanks [Member] Email
Seriously, if they gave a Pulitzer Prize for blogs, I think you would win for this piece. The bad news is that it might be all downhill from here!
08/11/06 @ 09:32
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Shanks

Amusing, yes. Pulitzer material? Not so much. Garrison Keillor has done the same "Guy Noir" bit every weekend for many years on "Prairie Home Companion".

At least it captured the imaginations of throngs of er, uh, um... Well, lets just say throngs of your staff - and Alex. Is Alex part of your staff, or does it just seem that way?
08/11/06 @ 10:02
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel, I am indeed part of the staff. I am bureau chief of the Intergalactic Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy department. I am an interplanetary expert in chemtrails, black helicopters, concentration camps and Astroturf. Shh.. don't tell anyone.
08/11/06 @ 13:05
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Really? I thought you were the Geriatric Junior Partner in charge of Sophomoric Obfuscation and Reactionary Racism.

Better have someone check the note they pinned to your undershirt for ya.
08/11/06 @ 13:49
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Gh Rh, Those are also some of my titles but they were supposed to be classified. Okay, who leaked? Now that you know all this, Gh Rh, look for a visit from the Astroturf Enforcement Division. Ve haf vays to force compliance!
08/11/06 @ 14:49
Comment from: Chris Baldwin [Member] Email
Ghet Rheel, you do realize you're the butt of the joke in this blog, right?

I knew the Warriors sometimes experience some troubles putting reality together, but missing that may be your finest hour ever.
08/12/06 @ 01:05
Comment from: Chris Baldwin [Member] Email
Why do I think you really do "drive" a Schwinn as your main mode of transport, Willie K. Wolfrum?
08/12/06 @ 01:08
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel, Have you had enough? Chris Baldwin is now a junior agent for Astroturf. Soon our control will be complete. To resist is futile. You will be granted amnesty. You will be assimilated. But you must first submit to Astroturf Central. An agent will be in contact with you in the near future.
08/12/06 @ 10:31
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Chris Baldwin

You do realize that Alex peppers the TravelGolf blogs with comments that could be considered as racial slurs, right?

And that, sooner or later, the sports industry ostracizes bigoted sportswriters, right?

And you and a few of your buddies have circled your wagon around Alex, right?

******
Chris Baldwin - I'm repeating what's written above so there can be no mistake:

Alex - Need proof as to why I believe you are a racist? No problem. Here are a few racially offensive comments you’ve made in the past day or so:

You wrote them on Brandon Tucker’s blog titled, “Should Michelle Wie have won U.S. Amateur before going pro, like Tiger did thrice?”


On 08/09/06 at 09:21, regarding BJ Wie, you wrote:
Does he still work in his field, or does he manage Bubbles' career exclusively? Did he just crawl out of a bomb crater at Inchon? Or does he just refuse to adopt US customs and mores?

On 08/09/06 at 22:08 you wrote:
How about the one at the Chinese laundry. You know, "no tickee, no washee."

On 08/10/06 at 15:39 you wrote:
One-Putt, Did the elderly Korean gentleman who delivered that stirring bit of prose speak in Korean or English? Is it verbatim or a loose translation? If it's the former, he speaks the absolute best English of any Asian person in history. If it's the latter, you have a greater ability in Korean to English translation and interpretation than 99.9% of Asian scholars in this country.

*******

It seems clear to me that you and your pals are actively condoning Alex's offensive views and statements. That being the case, the joke's on you and your pals, right?
08/12/06 @ 12:12
Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
Don't pay any attention to Baldwin, Ghet Rheel. I think he is jealous of you, comming to another blogger's site to heap more crap. You are more credible and respected than Baldie.
08/12/06 @ 12:58
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Thanks Jon. Do you think Baldwin and friends realize their comments actually get beyond the Flagstaff city limits?
08/12/06 @ 13:30
Comment from: John Z [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel, I think you're making too big of a deal out of the remarks by Alex. The first two seem like he is joking and in the last he was complimenting the speaker. I can't see anything racist about any of it. Don't be so paranoid about things. Try to lighten up. You will live longer. I read most of the posts by Alex. He is just yanking your chain trying to get a rise out of you. Looks like he is getting his wish.
08/13/06 @ 09:26
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
John Z

That's interesting. Billy Packer said he was "only joking" just before he was fired. Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder said he was paying blacks "a compliment" just before he got canned. Racists seldom believe that they are racists. Larry Krueger, David Halberstm, Rob Blair, Rush Limbaugh, etc. and etc. all couldn't understand what the fuss was all about. Fuzzy Zoeller thought his "fried chicken" comment was a "a harmless joke", a "non event" until K-Mart and Dunlop withdrew his largest endorsements.

The fact, John Z, that you agree with Alex is not surprising. Your views seem to be a precise carbon-copy of his. The staff writers seem to have distanced themselves from Alex's views, let's hope so. The sport's industry seems to have established a "zero tolerance" in such matters. Kudos to the sports industry for that.
08/13/06 @ 15:21
Comment from: John Z [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel, I guess you don't want to take my advice to relax. I can't figure out how you think my thoughts are a carbon copy of anything. I don't know Alex but I am pretty sure he is just busting your chops. Let him say his piece, that's what makes these blogs entertaining. Don't try to censor anybody. You wouldn't want to be censored for your views. Don't you realize that he is enjoying your frustration?
08/13/06 @ 19:08
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
JZ

Since you don't know either party perhaps you should take your own advice and opt out of this discussion - you seem to be reviving a topic that had died down.

But, now that you bring it up, I don't mind continuing it. Alex has made frequent comments that seem racist to me and to others. I could list many more of his offensive remarks, if you like. If my comments put a "chill" on racist comments, then fine and dandy. I'm not in a position to censor anyone, but it is a free country, and I'll answer whom I please, when I please. Hope that is clear.

You seem like a thoughtful person, I'm surprised you wouldn't take a stand against racial slurs - whether they are "jokes", or erstwhile "compliments", or however they happen to be disguised.

For someone who "doesn't know Alex", you seem to have taken quite an interest in his welfare. Perhaps you are long-lost twins. You know, something like that.
08/13/06 @ 19:50
Comment from: John Z [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel, Whatever you say. Just don't accuse everyone who you might disagree with of being racist. It might come back to haunt you. This is the reason why I don't post here very much. It always seems to end up in personal insults. I'll be back in a few weeks.
08/13/06 @ 21:18
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
Well, whatever - If I think someone is making racist remarks, I'll say so. Whether you like it or not.
08/13/06 @ 21:28
Comment from: grikdog [Visitor]
Tragedy is easy. Comedy is hard. Tragic, tragic column, Mr. Spayed.
08/14/06 @ 08:40
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor]
grikdog
If you are the same "grikdog" that took Michael "the Book" Bamberger to task last fall, then I have great respect for your views.

That said, I would disagree with you on your characterization of wkw's column as being "tragic". "Misguided" comes to mind. Bearing the fruits of the "Law of Unintended Consequences" also comes to mind. "Tragic" seems to denote a level of gravitas simply "not achieved" in Wolfrum's attempted burlesque.

I will say that Wolfrum's piece contained journalistic balance seldom seen in these golf blogs. But his vetting of a key figure left much to be desired.

I'm trying to recall if I lost any sleep over it. OK, now I'm certain - Nope, not even a millisecond. And, the piece has brought much needed attention to the problem of Astroturf throughout the blogging community in general, and this set of golf blogs in particular.
08/15/06 @ 03:45
Comment from: Jenney M. [Visitor]
Ghet Rheel

Unfortunately, Alex is one of many making racist comments on Travel Golf blogs. I can even think of bloggers who write racist posts and comments regularly. But you're right, racists rarely know that they are racist. I confronted one, but all she could do was tell me her handicap and ask me where I went to college.

The funny thing about these Travel Golf blogs is if you were to do a Google News Search on Michelle Wie , the first 7 hits would be from Travel Golf. She hasn't done anything in weeks, yet Travel Golf still gets hits off her. It's unbelievable.
08/17/06 @ 05:52
Comment from: Annerose [Visitor] Email
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks
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