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Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
William,

Jenny Shin gets no ranking points for winning the amateur title.

There are no points for winning amateurs, only for winning professional events.

Amateurs can gain points if they play in professional events, for their performance in the professional events, but winning amateur titles gives no ranking points.


Also you said:
"With a mature display of golf, 13-year-old Jenny Shin beat Vicky Hurst in 37 holes to become the second-youngest winner in the 58-year history of the U.S. Girls' Junior Championship.".

That was a JUNIOR event. A great achievment nonetheless, but you may like to note that at 13 years of age Michelle Wie won an ADULT usga title.

She was the youngest person ever to win an ADULT usga title, but then again, as a Wie basher you might like to ignore that.
07/25/06 @ 09:51
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
As regards the rankings, if Jenny Shin can put in top 5's in 5 of the next 6 lpga majors, she would probably get a great ranking.

Use as an example Chris DiMarco. With his 2nd place at the Open Championship, he moved from 26 to 13 in the rankings.
Where would his ranking go, if he could put in top 5's in 5 of 6 majors. Very high would be a good guess.
07/25/06 @ 09:53
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
If Jenny Shin werre to be penalized for actually winning something she should debut at no higher than number 17--behind number 15 Morgan Pressel who lost in the 3rd roumd of last year's Junior US Girls and Vicky Hurst who lost the finals this year.
07/25/06 @ 10:26
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor]
To date, the Rolex rankings are a joke.

Although Michelle Wie is an exceptional female golfer, I can't see how she can be so high in the rankings.
07/25/06 @ 11:11
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
How can John Rollins not be your hottest golfer of the week? Goodness, he conquered "THE" Open field. I agree with Jenny Shin, as Golfweek seemed prepared to give the title to Hurst. By the way, your number one hot golfer this week will come from the Porter Cup, in Lewiston, NY.
07/25/06 @ 11:23
Comment from: Ford [Visitor]
Johnny N.--It's called a sense of humor, you should try getting one.

Jim--Let's be fair. I am no Morgan Pressel fan, but she did WIN the U.S. Women's Amateur last year, something the great Michelle Wie was unable to accomplish in her less than distinguished amateur career. Has Michelle performed better as a pro, yes, no question, but as an amateur Morgan had the far more impressive career.
07/25/06 @ 13:48
Comment from: Jenney M. [Visitor]
Stacy,
Math is hard.

Love,
Barbie
07/28/06 @ 05:39
Comment from: Jenney M. [Visitor]
It amazes me how people who bother to post comments know so little about golf, esp. women's golf.

Even if Jenny Shin put in 14 top 5 finishes in 14 out of 14 LPGA events including the 4 majors, SHE WOULD NOT GET A ROLEX RANKING. Can we guess why?

In order to qualify for a ranking, she would have to have played in a minimum of 15 tournaments that the Rolex Rankings recognizes within a 2 year period. She would however get points.

Now Amateur players can qualify to be ranked, however Amateur tournaments count for jack squat... ZERO for those of you who are doing the math.

Now if you can stay with me, the reason why Michelle Wie can have such a high ranking is all due to the math. Ranking systems are based on math. One would think that statement is obvious, but obviously not.

The number of points you get for a tournament is determined by how you finished in the tournament and the strength of the field, ie. how many top 200 Rolex Ranked players are playing in the tournament. The older the tournament is, the less points you get for it, with the exception of the 4 majors and the Future's Tour, which all have fixed points that do not change.

Wie is able to have such a high ranking, because majors make a big proportion of her events and she finishes well in them. So when she finishes T3 at the 2005 British Open, it will eventually count for a lot more next year than Paula Creamer's 2005 Evian win, since the Evian Masters isn't a major or a Future's tour event.

Now the ranking is also determined by the number of qualifying tournaments the player has played in for that ranking period. The PGA rankings are calculated in a similiar way, except their minimum is 40 not 15.

Yes there are flaws to the system obviously, but now when people say "I can't see how she can be so high in the rankings." it's because you know they didn't do the math.



07/28/06 @ 07:11

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