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Comment from: Paul W [Visitor]
I think Tom Delay is about to end his round with a triple bogey.
2005-12-26 @ 09:09
Comment from: Roy P [Visitor]
I only wish you knew what you were talking about...
Tom DeLay hosts golf tournaments around the nation for fundraisers, just like almost every organization. So yes, he plays golf around the world - in an effort to raise money. its what he has to do to defend himself against irresponsable generalizing "journalists" like you.
As for the childerns charities, you may be interested to know that he and his wife are devout foster parents who raise money to help abused and neglected children. Next time, at least pretend to do a little research.
2005-12-26 @ 12:49
Comment from: William K. Wolfrum [Member] Email
Good work, Roy. Of course, it's all been for the abused children.

I think the beauty of being extremely partisan is that, no matter how hard your own guys take it to you, you'll always be willing to overlook their discretions, forgive and defend.

Face it, it's Battered Ideologue Syndrome.

--WKW
2005-12-26 @ 13:18
Comment from: Ziggy [Visitor]
It appears that Roy P. may be slightly misguided *cough* shameless right-wing apologist *cough*.

The exploits of Tom Delay and the decline of even the smallest attempts at honesty or cooperation in our political sytem truly saddens me. Hopefully Mr. Delay will have plenty of time to work on his short game at a nice comfy federal facility.


2005-12-26 @ 17:02
Comment from: Denver Player [Visitor]
WKW,

Don't be so quick to judge these "trips".

The rich and powerful work in a much different environment than we do. Their presence and "networking" at such an event, to Roy's point, is what brings dollars forward to charitable organizations and PAC's to advance their agenda. In many cases, people like Delay, in this case, donate their time to such causes and attend these events in lieu of any direct compensation. We might not like it, but it's the reality we live in. To my knowledge, he's not breaking any laws here. If you don't like it, help change the law and support politicians (McCain(R) and Dorgan(D))that champion campaign finance reform.

This does not represent a partisan defense of Delay. Nor is this an excuse of the excesses and abuses that have occurred within the political system. They have occurred in both parties, and transgressions should be prosecuted with vigor.

But don't believe the party line hype on either side.
2005-12-27 @ 08:11
Comment from: BV [Visitor]
WOW, I'm rarely impressed by the level of conversational/grammatic expertise shown in blogs and forums (to wit - Roy P and 'childern')...but I have to comment on Denver Player's rebuttal to Mr. Wolfram. Fantastic work in displaying a fair and impartial response! Maybe the Denver Player should have a BLOG on here??? ;)
2005-12-27 @ 13:09
Comment from: Roy P [Visitor]
It is not partisan to look at this objectively. All I am saying is that he has not violated any law, and to the contrary was helping many charities. (although you may not like him, some people enjoy playing in tournaments with "celebraties". People like Roger Clemens and Michael Jordan participate in these tournaments all the time to raise money for organizations). I played in a tournament with DeLay last year for wounded soldiers, he paid for some of the tournament, and yes he played - but for the benefit of the organization.
I agree with Denver, if you dont like the laws, work to change them, dont hate those who conform to them.
2005-12-27 @ 15:48
Comment from: Denver Player [Visitor]
BV,

Thanks for the compliment. However, I think Travelgolf would prefer someone with a little more argumentative approach to their blogging.

My style is more "News Hour with Jim Lehrer". Travelgolf has a more "Entertainment Tonight" approach.

I just haven't figured out which one on staff I would equate to "Cojo".
2005-12-29 @ 12:28
Comment from: William K. Wolfrum [Member] Email
So I was perusing the actual indictment for money laundering Texas is pressing against DeLay and wondering why everyone here is trying to convince me that he hasn't broken any laws. I say we let the jury decide.

First of all, I agree completely with Denver about not believing either side's hype. It's only a two-party system and both parties are completely astray.

But here's a point: I'm based out of Brazil (I'm American, my wife's a Brasileira). Now, down here they have just been through a very large-scale corruption scandal in the government. There was huge media play, everyone was outraged, but every Brazilian I spoke with said they didn't expect much to come of it.

And nothing much has come of it. A few scapegoats got booted from congress. And that's what was expected, for the most part. The people I know here are defeatist regarding their politicians. They know they are going to get screwed, and they rarely get disappointed.

So I suppose seeing that attitude from so many Americans is troubling, somewhat. "Hey, he's ripping us off, but he gives money to needy kids, as well. He could just be ripping us off, he's a busy guy."

So while I don't think anyone here has been really radical or out-of-touch, the overall move toward defeatism needs to be thought about, perhaps.

And as for doing things to change laws, I am, right here. And so are you.

--WKW
2005-12-29 @ 13:37
Comment from: Denver Player [Visitor]
I might be wrong on this, but wasn't this "corporate dollars"?

He's not ripping us off. If he is truly guilty, it is with laundering of funds to cover up corporate donations, not stealing or misappropriating public funds.

If he did do this, I would be upset that he was taking advantage of his position as a public servant, for sure. But, then again, when we pay our professional athletes 5 to 20 times what we pay politicians, what do we reasonably expect?

Our values are skewed.
2005-12-29 @ 20:01
Comment from: Denver Player [Visitor]
PS...

You mean to tell me Wolfrum ISN'T a Brazilian name?
2005-12-29 @ 20:08
Comment from: The Wrench [Visitor]
Tom DeLay showed up with LUTHERAN SOCIAL SERVICES SENSKE the (LAWYER) to thwarth a Congressional Investigation into MASSIVE FRAUD IN FOSTER CARE/CPS!!! On June 6, 2004!!!

See! http://media.familyrights.us/expose/ExposeV2005.pdf

Here is how NETWORK works to Conspire against the public!~ CAUGHT RED HANDED CONSPIRING AGAINST THE PUBLIC!

http://www.txcfr.org/M.pdf

Here is your Abramoff Foster Care Connection!

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/11/9/15581/1958

http://auctionhouse.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/11/4/114556/020

Here is your Abramoff Russian Connection!

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/artilces/2006/02/23/abramoff_ties_to_russians_probed/

NOTE: Lutheran Social Services has the largest Foster Care Contract in TEXAS!

NOTE: Lutheran Social Services went to Russia too!

http://www.lsss.org/mediareleases/media_credentials.htm

LOOK! http://www.mosnews.com/commentary/2005/04/18/adoption.shtml

Here is how Republicans FUND RAISE!

http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=2016

Guess where they got the DIRTY LIFE INSURANCE SCAM idea?

Off the DEAD FOSTER CHILDRENS BACKS DUMMY! SEE!

They didn't stick the LIFE INSURANCE LEGISLATION ON FOSTER CHILDREN in the Foster Care Legislation you might have noticed it there DUMMY!

SEE! Toward end OPTION C! Oh, we SEE alright! http://www.ita.doc.gov/hrm/fegli.html

After they got away with it they upped the limits a few months later by 500% on LIFE INSURANCE LIMITS ON CHILDREN! SEE! http://www.opm.gov/asd/htm/1999/bal99-212.htm

Republican Sponsored!

Repubublican BACKED STYLE!

Your Children and Rights been OUTSOURCED Republican Way!

Do you want the FAKE FALSIFIED FATALITY FOSTER CARE REPORTS too!

For (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003) Oh, more DEAD CHILDREN than IRAQ WAR!

GUESS WHAT FAKE REPORTS don't come a country mile of REAL NUMBERS .......................you been DUPED ........REPUBLICAN WAY, Propganda WAY! Remember they say it is all for the kids! ALL THE DIRTY MONEY IS all for the CHILDREN.

http://www.lsss.org/mediareleases/media_credentials.htm

http://www.mosnews.com/commentary/2005/04/18/adoption.shtml

LETS SEE PUBLIC STOMACH THAT.....the Indians couldn't stomach it, but our DEAD CHILDREN been paying with there lives. If you want to know how they are killed let us know we will post it too. Think about this for awhile.

VOTE ON UNELECTION DAY! HAPPY CORRUPTERS DAY!

2006-04-03 @ 10:36
Comment from: The Wrench [Visitor]
* Thomas Dale DeLay defense fund! Those who gave just UNELECTED THEMSELVES! * Vote on Unelection Day! Those who Backed Must Get Packed!

You back Corruption you leave office now!
2006-04-18 @ 09:32
Comment from: joe234 [Visitor] Email
http://www.liftingtheveil.org/falsification.htm

http://www.thnewamerican.com/tna/1999/08-30-99/vo15no18_beware.htm

http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/hotspots/index.html


2006-12-19 @ 20:26
Comment from: joe234 [Visitor] Email
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/judi_chaseII.htm

* Tom Delay sponsored legislation to move children across state lines. This will help the pedophile adoption mules get the children to drop points faster. NOTE: Children in Nigeria were adopted out of Houston Texas and found in NIGERIA THE CHILD TRAFFICKING hub drop point. Ask which adoption agency adopted them out. A state funded adoption agency, why was Ken Lay of ENRON giving to Spaulding Adoptions???

"DHS worker busted for running prostitution ring!" Austin Statesman *The so called worker was a manager and they used a foster care kid!!!

Texas Freedom of Information Request still being blocked two years later they don't want the public finding out that they have and had criminals working at Child Protective Services with criminal records.

http://www.liftingtveil.org/falsification.htm


DHS covered up millions in fraud we exposed, since that time DHS Albert Hawkins found sitting on nonprofit, State Audits show backdating, misappropriation and know way of knowing services billed ever provided by private contractors for foster care. Yeah, who owns the Fort Bend, Sugarland group foster homes! JUST WONDERING!

Tom DeLay showed up on June 6, 2004, with LUTHERAN SOCIAL SERVICES SENSKE to thwarth a Congressional Investigation! http://www.familyrightsassociation.com * Falsified death reports admitted into evidence! We found out why it was coveed up! It wasn't easy finding the LIFE INSURANCE legislation which in my opinion is illegal since the foster children are patientts and state wards, its kind of like taking insurance out on hospital patients, a MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!! They stuck it in the back end of a VETERANS bbill! Then jacked the limits up 500%! The real death rates sky rocketed the FAKE ones on the DHS report went down! NICE SCAM! DUPED THE PUBLIC! The kids are killed by natural causes/medical. You know the Rxing poisoning, you tend to die from it.
2006-12-21 @ 05:14

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