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Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Stacy,
As you probably would have come to expect, I don't agree with your blog, but it is at least written with some intelligence and thought out points attached to it, which is a long way away from some of the other blog writers, and there really isn't any malice in the blog either, just reasoned points, which is refreshing for the website.

As regards, putting herself where she would expect to win, it could be argued that many of the lpga players don't expect to win on the lpga tour, yet they still play there. When Michelle plays lpga events, she probably has expectations of winning that event, moreso than most of the field.

She has also come very close to winning. In my opinion, if Michelle were to not win in 2007, then she should join the lpga tour and completely dedicate herself to womens golf until she won a title. I do expect Michelle to win in 2007 on the lpga tour.
2007-03-29 @ 15:07
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

Let me see if I understand your pretzel logic.

You expect Bubbles to win on the LPGA tour in 2007.

But if she doesn't win an LPGA event in 2007, thereby rendering your prediction incorrect, she should join the LPGA, presumably in 2008, and completely dedicate herself to the LPGA UNTIL she wins a title.

When and if she eventually wins an event on the LPGA tour after joining the tour fulltime, what would you propose that she do then?

Should Bubbles then resume her failures on the PGA tour? Should she petition the Masters' committee fort an exemption to Augusta? What?
2007-03-29 @ 16:48
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
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2007-03-29 @ 16:50
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

First, thank you for the compliment on our blog. We try to comment on golf, not just report about it.

I do not completely agree with your statement, "many of the lpga players don't expect to win on the lpga tour, yet they still play there." All of these women have won at some time in their past experience in order to achieve this level of golf.

The newer players on tour are more determined to win than those who have been on the tour without success for many years.
2007-03-29 @ 17:16
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
In my opinion Michelle will win in 2007. However if she were not to win, then the status quo of 8 more lpga tournaments in 2008 would be a bad idea in my opinion.

Not winning up to 18 years old is perfectly fine, and to win before that would be historic, but if she hasn't won by then, in that case, it would be my opinion that she should knuckle down to a good stretch of golf on womens tours in order to give herself a better chance of winning.
2007-03-29 @ 17:29
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Stacy,
The women on the lpga tour need not have won. If they get within the top 20 or whatever number it is at q-school, then they qualify for the tour. They may or may not have won before that.

Even if they have won many titles, take Morgan Pressel as an example, winning at lpga level is a different thing, and they will then try to learn to win at lpga level, like Morgan is trying to do.

In any case Michelle has played the maximum lpga exemptions that she has been allowed to play as a 15 and 16 year old. What more could she do apart from petition early, and there really is no reason for her to bother petitioning early, only 2 other people have done that successfully before.

You could argue that instead of playing the mens events, she could have played some foreign womens events. If that's your point, I would also like her to play maybe some Ladies European Tour events, and I think that would be good for her and good for those events.
2007-03-29 @ 17:36
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
I want to point out that I expressed a similar sentiment about Bubbles a long time ago. Stanley probably isn't aware of this, as he either wasn't frequenting these blogs at the time or was on a bender. What I said, however, is I believe that Bubbles' aspirations are designed to provide a built-in excuse.

I think that she fears pressure, and her way of dealing with this frailty is to ensure that she never truly puts herself on the line. If it's a PGA event, then, well, hey, she's no supposed to win because she's a girl; ergo, there's little pressure. And as far as the women's tour goes, she has the same benefit to some degree because she's not a full-time player.

This is why I wouldn't be surprised if Bubbles does pursue her Ph.D. After all, the last thing she wants to do is fail as a full-time player.
2007-03-29 @ 18:58
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Ph.D.???? She won't make it past Sophmore.......
2007-03-30 @ 05:37
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor] Email
As much as I respect Kathy Whitworth's game, she was in her third full year on tour when she won her first LPGA event and it was during her eighth full year on tour when she won her first Major championship.

I think Michelle might be a little ahead of schedule compared to when Kathy began winning at age 25. Well I guess we do have seven and a half years to find out.
2007-03-30 @ 06:04
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor] Email
"Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Ph.D.???? She won't make it past Sophmore....... "

Coming from the same group of dour old men who said she would never be able to enter into Stanford in the first place?

Your credibility and insight are sorely lacking along with your spelling skills.
2007-03-30 @ 06:10
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
One-Putt has just upped the ante from that of fellow Wie-wee GhetRheel. Now we'll have to wait until Bubbles hits twenty-five to see if she can win anything.

It seems like the Wie Warriors are lowering the bar even more each month. Two years ago, according to their rosy predictions, Bubbles was supposed to already be a multiple major winner on the LPGA tour. Tell me, Wie-wee's, what happened?

The best one yet is that Bubbles is ahead of Kathy in anything but hype.

As I have previously said, I really look forward to the day when Bubbles wins something, anything.

If the Wie-men have such glowing praise for someone whose game has been in the tank for about eight months, and who hasn't even played any competitive golf for months, what will they do if she ever gets off the schneid?
2007-03-30 @ 06:50
Comment from: Oneunder [Visitor] Email
KW knows alot about winning, but I really think MW thinks she can win on the PGA and expects to win on the PGA tour
2007-03-30 @ 07:10
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Oneunder,

I don't know where you get your information or how you arrived at those conclusions, but if Bubbles believes that she can win on the PGA tour and expects to win on the PGA tour, sh needs to get off the LSD and the absinthe and go into rehab.

And if you share here beliefs, then you also need detoxification. Hallucinogens are definitely harmful.
2007-03-30 @ 07:38
Comment from: Matthew [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,
Why are you gone back to golf talk, the butt talk was much more interesting. Speaking of butts, did you happen to watch Serena Williams in the tennis at Miami. There is one large butt on display, too big in my opinion. As you said yourself, Creamer and Wie have much nicer butts. Anyway, she won her match by the way, but Justine Henin will give her a good pasting in the final. Come on Justine, do it.
2007-03-30 @ 08:01
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Matthew,

Unlike some guys here, I understand that a man shouldn't be governed by glands below the waist. Of course, if asked, I would say that Creamer was a nicely put together young gal, but I also know that what's on the inside is more important.

No, I didn't watch Serena Williams; if I wanted to see such things I'd read National Geographic.
2007-03-30 @ 13:53
Comment from: Matthew [Visitor] Email
Judge. What's on the inside counts more. Ya right! How politically correct.

You are right about Creamer though, she is built very well indeed. If she had a face as good as Wie's, she could have endorsements from all directions.

That's something that just isn't fair in the golf thing. Sure Wie has some game, but the game she has shown does not match the endorsements. What fills the gap between game and endorsement size?
Looks, simple as that. If Creamer or Pressel were as good looking as Wie, they could hugely raise their endorsements.

That's golf though. It isn't always fair. At least they are all well paid anyway.
2007-03-30 @ 17:09
Comment from: Larue [Visitor] Email
I believe that correct word is "sophomore."
2007-03-30 @ 18:06
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Attention all posters!

Know ye by these presents that Larue is now officially the the resident Chief of Spelling Police.

He knows how to spell "sophomore" and maybe a lot more words.
2007-03-30 @ 18:24
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor] Email
"Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
One-Putt has just upped the ante from that of fellow Wie-wee GhetRheel. Now we'll have to wait until Bubbles hits twenty-five to see if she can win anything.

It seems like the Wie Warriors are lowering the bar even more each month. Two years ago, according to their rosy predictions, Bubbles was supposed to already be a multiple major winner on the LPGA tour. Tell me, Wie-wee's, what happened?

The best one yet is that Bubbles is ahead of Kathy in anything but hype.

As I have previously said, I really look forward to the day when Bubbles wins something, anything.

If the Wie-men have such glowing praise for someone whose game has been in the tank for about eight months, and who hasn't even played any competitive golf for months, what will they do if she ever gets off the schneid?"

OK Smart Guy Alex, I will go way out on a limb and predict for 2007 Michelle Wie will.....................................................................................

2007-03-30 @ 19:15
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor] Email
That is better, I changed the batteries in my keyboard. Now I can type faster.

2007-03-30 @ 19:18
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,

As far as Bubbles pursuing a PhD, she said that she might take eight years to get a Bachelor's degree, so at that rate she'll pass the big three-o before she gets a PhD.

I'd be willing to bet that she'll win the Grand Slam on the PGA tour before she gets a PhD
2007-03-30 @ 19:41
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,

As far as Bubbles pursuing a PhD, she said that she might take eight years to get a Bachelor's degree, so at that rate she'll pass the big three-o before she gets a PhD.

I'd be willing to bet that she'll win the Grand Slam on the PGA tour before she gets a PhD
2007-03-30 @ 19:44
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor] Email
Alex we got it the first time. It wasn't that good that you had to post it twice.

2007-03-31 @ 02:35
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
One-Putt,

Yes, maybe Stacy will get around to deleting one ot them.

O-P, I'm all for encouraging young people to excel, to "shoot for the stars", to be all that they can be.

But when some of you Wie-wee's write confidently of Bubbles winning the LPGA grand slam, winning on the PGA tour, playing in the Masters',and becoming a billionaire, all this while studying intently to acquire a Doctorate, it becomes laughable,
2007-03-31 @ 09:00
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
One-Putt,
Alex gets impatient when Judge Smails doesn't reply to him straight away, hence the double posting.

Alex, I also doubt that Michelle will get a PHD. When has such a talented golfer bothered with that.
2007-03-31 @ 09:03
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

Cary Middlecoff and Gil Morgan, both multiple winners on the PGA tour, were both doctors.

But since you are the consummate Wie-wee, winning doesn't matter much to you.

What is it you prize so much, style over substance?
2007-03-31 @ 10:01
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Matthew,

There's nothing politically correct about what I said at all; in fact, the leftists, the authors of pcness, treasure superficiality above all else. I love beautiful young women as much as the next guy, but I also know that just as with someone who marries for money, a man who marries for appearance will "earn it."

Alex,

Well, then perhaps Bubbles plans on completing her Ph.D. when she's about fifty; then she can start talking about how she wants to win on the Champions Tour.

I'll tell you one thing, even if she does forge on ahead to a doctoral degree, don't expect it to be in physics or chemistry. I'm thinking more like social work or education, those "Mrs." degrees the eggheads invented to encourage women to spend more money on higher edumecation and to help the mediocre feel like intellectuals.
2007-03-31 @ 12:33
Comment from: Matthew [Visitor] Email
Judge,
Did you watch any of the 2nd round coverage?
Or did any of the rest of you watch any of it?

The girl in the lead Shi Hyun Ahn. There is one beautiful woman, and she is also confident, calm, and very graceful in the way she moves about the course. It's as if nothing would upset her and her game.
2007-03-31 @ 13:11
Comment from: Ronnie [Visitor] Email
Are any of you watching the Kraft Nabisco Championship, or watching the leaderboard more precisely?

Paula Creamer birdied the first hole in the third round to hit the front. Paula has picked the perfect time to hit form. The Grand Slam may well be on for Paula. Lorena is just an overhyped wannabe. Move over for The Pink Panther. Major number 1 on the way.
2007-03-31 @ 13:14
Comment from: Ronnie [Visitor] Email
2 birdies from 2 holes.
The grand slam is beckoning.
When will Chris Baldwin start a thread. Perhaps he will wait til after the Kraft. Yes that would be better, a celebration blog.
2007-03-31 @ 13:28
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ronnie,

I predicted on another thread that Paula's 67 would bring you out of hiding, and you didn't disappoint.

I'm not sure who is more out of touch with reality, you or the Wie-wee's.

Lorena is an overhyped wannabe? Yes Ronnie, with ten LPGA victories.
2007-03-31 @ 13:29
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Oops, bogey on hole 3 for the Pink Panther.
Ronnie, was that part of the script?

There are several class players in contention. Lorena & Susan Pettersen are very good. Then there is Se Ri Pak who has lots of experience as well as game.
2007-03-31 @ 13:44
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Do you suppose that Kathy Whitworth would criticize players for practicing--since there is no pressure to win when a player is only practicing?

What about Nancy Lopez? Why doesn't Kathy Whitworth criticize Nancy Lopez for playing in the Ginn Open next week instead of on the Legends Tour where she might be expected to win?

Even though Nancy Lopez has no chance to win, and might be a longshot to make the cut at the Ginn, my guess is that there will be a lot more pressure on Nancy Lopez than there was on Kathy Whitworth in her recent Legends win. No one was saying that Kathy's reputation was at stake when she played the Legends--but there are some who say that Nancy's reputation is at stake with her LPGA comeback. And that is the type of pressure that Michelle Wie faces almost every time she plays.
2007-03-31 @ 14:39
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

You've posted some very disoriented and nonsensical things in the past, but even by your lofty standards,
your last post is a masterpiece of incomprehensibility and convolution.
2007-03-31 @ 15:13
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor] Email
"Comment from: Stanley [Visitor]
One-Putt,
Alex gets impatient when Judge Smails doesn't reply to him straight away, hence the double posting.

Alex, I also doubt that Michelle will get a PHD. When has such a talented golfer bothered with that."

I take Michelle at her word, one of her dreams was to attend Stanford, the other was to earn a Ph.D like her father.

Everyone believes Michelle's world revolves around golf. That is everyone except Michelle who thinks of golf as just a game.
2007-03-31 @ 15:28
Comment from: Ronnie [Visitor] Email
Did you watch Lorena getting a quad bogey?
She is out of contention.

Paula is in the lead and still on to get the first part of the grand slam.
2007-03-31 @ 17:44
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
What Michelle Wie did playing against men is pretty much the same thing Kathy Whitworth did turning pro before she was really ready. It would have cost a lot for Michelle Wie to play in amateur events in the continental US and earlier it would have cost a lot for Kathy Whitworth to go out east from New Mexico to play in the major amateur events of the time. Her first year on the LPGA Kathy had a miserable 80.30 scoring average. Kathy Whitworth was apparently never in contention as a 19 year old and she went on to win 88n pro events. What is the big problem if Michelle Wie is out of contention in a few mens' events each year as a 15, 16 ans 17 year old?

Right now Michelle Wie is coming off a few poor performances. The best thing she can do right now is to prepare as well as she can, and believe in herself and her ability to win--at least against the women. Suggesting that there is a mind set that a player needs to win, and that Michelle Wie does not have this mend set is very much the same thing that baseball fans do when they try to instill doubts in the minds of opposing players.
2007-03-31 @ 17:47
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Ronnie. You would be right about Lorena being out of contention if this were a 3 round tournament. But it is 4 rounds. Lorena could still win if she puts up a great round tomorrow and no one ahead of her does enough to hold her off.
2007-03-31 @ 18:00
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

According to the announcer on the Golf Channel, Bubbles won't be teeing it up at the Ginn Open.

She just isn't ready yet.

One-Putt, it looks like golf isn't even a game to Bubbles anymore.
2007-03-31 @ 19:28
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

Try as I might, I can't make head nor tail of your last post.

It is even more disconnected than your previous one.

Exactly what us the gist of it? What are you attempting to prove?

To most sane people, mentioning winless Bubbles in the same breath with Kathy, Hall of Famer with 88 wins seems a bit incongruous
2007-03-31 @ 21:14
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor] Email
"Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Stanley,

According to the announcer on the Golf Channel, Bubbles won't be teeing it up at the Ginn Open.

She just isn't ready yet.

One-Putt, it looks like golf isn't even a game to Bubbles anymore."

All and all she gets to finish up the year with her classmates.

cBS wrote that she was recovering from a "broken" wrist and would skip the Ginn. It makes me wonder if they were reading the NY Times or that Michelle's wrist was actually broken.
2007-03-31 @ 23:32
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Wie isn't playing because she isn't playing the Ginn Open because she wouldn't be ready to play in it.

You are trying to turn that into some convoluted point, but it very confusing as to what you are incinuating. You earlier accused Jim of being disconnected in him posting. What does that make you then?

Wie will play when her wrist is fully recovered and ready to play tournament golf. It's not that complicated really.
2007-04-01 @ 11:25
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
One-Putt,

Bubbles' wrist wasn't broken, and whatever the problem, it should have been healed by now.

The only things that Bubbles has that are "broken" are her desire to compete and her spirit

Will she get them back? We'll have to wait and see. But she is a teenage girl, and those of us who have raised three of these wonderful creatures know that being fickle is thie strong (or is it weak?) suit
2007-04-01 @ 11:30
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
I suspect that Michelle Wie won't be playing in the Ginn Open because she never intended to do so. This year there is a Ginn Tribute as well as a Ginn Open and the Ginn Tribute is one week before the LPGA Championship. I wouldn't be surprised if reporters got the two confused.
2007-04-01 @ 11:49
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

You are quite correct when you say that Bubbles never intended to play in the Ginn Open.

By the way, the Ginn Open is being played April 12-15, 2007 at Reunion, Florida.
2007-04-01 @ 12:01
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
What benefit do you get from making things up?
The girl got an injury and didn't play some events due to the injury. The other things are just your overactive imagination.
Try to leave out the hallucinations and the conspiracy theories, and you might get out of that hospital sooner than you think. They need space in those centres badly, so they even let out some pretty f*d up freaks as long as there are others who are worse off. So please just try to feign sanity and you can get out before you know it.
2007-04-01 @ 12:34
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor] Email
Stanley
Alex and sanity in the same post?
*gasp*
2007-04-01 @ 12:49
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

What was the nature of her injury?

When did it happen? How did it happen? Where did it happen?

These are simple questions, Big Stan.

Since you are in the "golf business" and are thereby privy to a lot of inside information, you SHOULD have the answers.

And Stanley, kindly dispense with the half-assed insults. You're not that clever, and besides, you wouldn't want to be subjected to any Irish jokes, now would ye?
2007-04-01 @ 12:51
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
putt4par,

Welcome back from your rehab!

I came across a blog by Stacy from April 19, 2006. You had a good number of post in it, all in adulation for Bubbles.

If you can find it, there is a lot of really entertaining fantasy put forth by you Wie-wee's

All this present Wie Warrior nonsense is just a tired rehashing .
2007-04-01 @ 12:58
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor] Email
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Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
putt4par,

Welcome back from your rehab!

I came across a blog by Stacy from April 19, 2006. You had a good number of post in it, all in adulation for Bubbles.

If you can find it, there is a lot of really entertaining fantasy put forth by you Wie-wee's

All this present Wie Warrior nonsense is just a tired rehashing .
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Post the adulation, Bud.
You are big on insinuation and short on fact as always, old spud.

You still come across as a hormonal 15 year old. The rehashing is mostly on your part. Same old tired bs, same old tired Alex?
Time for you to find something more comforting in your old age, ROFL.
2007-04-01 @ 13:41
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex, take the banter in good jest.

By the way, Paula is making a move at the Kraft Nabisco. 3 bogeys in 5 holes is certainly making a move on that leaderboard.

Pak is probably well on her way to the title.
2007-04-01 @ 14:03
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
It's become obvious that Creamer has a problem closing the deal on big stages as well. However, until she starts shooting her mouth off about how she wants to beat the boys and a group of fawning acolytes known as "Creamer Crazies" rallies to her defense, I'll have no problem with her. She is comporting herself like a lady and is playing where she should. Moreover, she has earned what she has received.
2007-04-01 @ 14:24
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
Judge,
If Creamer could just hang in there, then she could fluke something. For example Wie could have easily fluked the chip in the 2006 Kraft and have been the outright winner.
Another example is where Creamer fluked a long putt at the SBS Open. But what happened for her to fluke that putt? She stayed in contention, that's the key. She could not have had that luck without staying in contention.

Creamer does contend sometimes in normal tour events, but as Judge said, she just hasn't stayed in contention at a major long enough to even give herself a chance of getting lucky.

Ochoa has proved to find it hard on the big stage as well. Her play at hole 17 in round 3 typlified that.

Majors are a different ball game. It's like there is normal golf tournaments and then there are majors. Se Ri Pak is a major performer.
2007-04-01 @ 14:56
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] Email
I knew that Morgan Pressel would eventually win an LPGA event but I'm even happier that it was the at the Kraft Nabisco, the first major of 2007!!

Congratulations Morgan...now, let's see a Wie-Pressel matchup!
2007-04-01 @ 18:13
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Sorry but I agree with Alex. Having watched the standard of play at the Kraft Nabisco, it was horrendous. The lpga tour hit a new low.

Suzann Pettersen, what were you at?
Se Ri Pak, 5 time major winner, what were you at?
Paula Creamer, what were you at?
Stacy Pramanasudh, recent winner, what were you at?
Catriona Matthew, 3 putts from there, what were you at?

Maybe Alex was right about the standard of play on the lpga tour. Lets call a spade a spade, that was just dreadful stuff.
2007-04-01 @ 18:39
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Now, now, Stanley, let us not be petty.

In line with the title of this blog, Bubbles has a lot to learn about winning.

And now, she can respectfully ask for that information from Morgan Pressel, the youngest golfer to ever win a major on any tour.

The sound of Wie Warrior heads exploding has reached a deafening roar.

My advice to you Wie Warriors is to put down the cyanide capsules, drop the .357 Magnum, throw away that hangman's noose. It isn't worth it.

If you guys are the Wie-wee's you purport to be, you will learn to realize that this is only the beginning.

An old story goes that a certain sad sack had a pretty bad day. His buddy told him to cheer up, things could be worse. So he cheered up and, sure enough, things got worse.

Stanley,

Thamks for your epiphany and your support. Better late than never.

One slight correction. I know that you're upset, but one of the cardinal rules of grammar is never to end a sentence with a preposition.

It is awkward at times to avoid it, but you did it five times in your last post.
2007-04-01 @ 19:22
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Johnny N,

It took a lot, bit you've convinced me.

Majors are the true test of a golfer's determination.

And now, the much-maligned Morgan Pressel has don the mantel of greatness as the youngest golfer to win a major on any tour.

Wie-wee's, I challenge you to bestow upon Morgan your unqualified congratulations.

I don't believe you Wie Warriors got the moxie.
2007-04-01 @ 19:38
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Congratulations Morgan Pressel.
2007-04-01 @ 20:14
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Before any trivia nerds junp on my case, Morgan is not the youngest golfer to ever win a major.

Young Tom Morris won the Open in 1868 at age 17.
2007-04-02 @ 08:05
Comment from: Oui Oui Oui [Visitor] Email
Pretzel back-doored the win like Ogilvy last year at the US Open - nicely done.

I predict Wie will have to write refund checks to all her sponsors this year. And by next year, she will be out of golf all together.
2007-04-02 @ 09:23
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Kathy Whitworth may know a lot about winning--but she has to be the worst golf coach in the world if she thinks that telling a player who is in a slump to put more pressuire on herself to win is helpful advice. What Michelle Wie should do is just forget about winnning. She should focus on the fundamentals of her own game and just tune out things she cannot control like how well other golfers are doing.

Of course I my be wrong. If there is someone out there who believes a player in a slump should put more pressure on herself to win--please let us know, and if you can, explain why that would be a good idea.
2007-04-02 @ 11:07
Comment from: 2under [Visitor] Email
Jim,

The education of winning comes with managing pressure. So it is the best advice that can be given. The pressure of winning needs to come with participation in the right level of play - and that is the LPGA.
Expectations are what need to be managed with Wie. Stop the insanity with the PGA "make the cut" roadshow. focus on the LPGA, get yourself in the pressure situations of winning, learn to deal with the pressure, and learn to win.
As someone pointed out earlier, it took years for Kathy to learn how to win, and the only way she did it was by getting herself in the mix, feeling the pressure, and learning how to overcome it. Smart lady, that Kathy Whitworth...
2007-04-02 @ 11:35
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
Morgan Pressel could not possibily teach anyone about winning. All she did was post a leading clubhouse score. Wie has done the same at other tournaments. Unfortunately for Wie, her fellow competitors actually played half decent golf down the stretch and didn't hand her the present that Pressel was handed.
2007-04-02 @ 12:07
Comment from: Ronnie [Visitor] Email
So Miss Piggy won it then.
Better than Wiener winning it anyway.
2007-04-02 @ 12:08
Comment from: How's that crow taste? [Visitor] Email
Johnny--Maybe my memory is a little fuzzy, but I seem to recall Michelle needing only a fairly routine up and down for birdie on 18 last year to make it into a playoff, of course she slightly bladed her chip and missed the 10 footer coming back. All Morgan did was make a clutch birdie putt on 18 to post what would turn out to be the winning score. You tell me who knows a thing or two about winning now, spin it however you like, but the fact is that Morgan is now a proven winner on the LPGA while Michelle's win total still sits at 0.
2007-04-02 @ 12:36
Comment from: Tour Velvet [Visitor] Email
You are right Johnny N. what would an 11-time AJGA tournament winner, Women's Amateur winner and now LPGA major winner possibly know about winning.
2007-04-02 @ 12:52
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Member]
Morgan had a great round on Sunday and everyone around her fell apart under the pressure. She kept her cool and won...simple as that. Whether the win came from others not handling the pressure or whatever excuse is given, it was Morgan Pressel who posted the best overall score and held up the trophy.
2007-04-02 @ 13:34
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
The fact is that Morgan posted a score that wasn't even worthy of a playoff. Wie has done just the same. She posted the clubhouse score in numerous tournaments, and sometimes it was just one shot off the lead. That wouldn't have been a lot to ask for the leaders to mess up. In Wie's case the leaders just played decent golf and stayed the shot ahead of her.

In Pressels case, it was like there was a major charity going on.

Since Alex mentioned how Wie missed a birdie putt to get in a playoff in 2006, maybe Alex might like to note, that Wie played against Lorena and Karrie who both eagled the last hole, to get one shot ahead of her.
In 2007, for whatever reason the leaders completely crumbled and handed the title to an undeserving Pressel. Pressel did not show that she knows what it takes to win. All she did was a post a score worthy of 2nd and then accepted a gift from a player who was 3 strokes ahead of Pressel when she posted that score.
2007-04-02 @ 14:06
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Whether or not Pretzel knows how to win, one thing is for sure: The Bubbles doesn't. LOL.
2007-04-02 @ 14:34
Comment from: Ronnie [Visitor] Email
Bubbles is Big Miss Piggy.
Pressel is Little Miss Piggy.
2007-04-02 @ 14:37
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Johnny N,

Your take on the Kraft is that Morgan posted a round good for second, and that the rest of the field handed her the win .

Wrong! Morgan knew what it would take and swept to victory.
2007-04-02 @ 14:45
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
Wow Alex, that Morgan must be some sort of a genius if she knew Catriona Matthew would 3 putt from 15 feet on 18, and that both Pettersena and Pak would go +4 over holes 15 to 18. Is that Pressel some sort of genius at predictions?
2007-04-02 @ 14:51
Comment from: Morgan Pressel [Visitor] Email
I'd like to thank the fans first and foremost, your support and love really gave me strength to play well.
I'd like to thank the organisers for putting on such a great event.
Mostly though, I'd like to thank Catherina Matthew, Brittany Lincicome and Se Ri Pak for very great help along the way, and the biggest thank you goes to Suzann Pettersen, who had the trophy in her hands but decided she would give it to me instead. Many thanks to Suzann, and again thanks to the fans for the love.
2007-04-02 @ 14:54
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Joynny N,

You've got it right. Morgan KNEW what it would take and did it.

Herb Krickstein predicted it and it came rue.
This is the stuff of which greatness is made.

Johnny N, Morgan is performing the things that will re-write history. Sit back and enjoy it.
2007-04-02 @ 15:14
Comment from: Mr. Wonderful [Visitor] Email
Hey Beginners...

Did you guys learn anything from the other 74 posts? Want hits, just mention Michelle. You don't need to write about anything else, instruction, equipment, nothing, just start a a blog with Michelle.

Nothing else is needed... You'll be the number one site on the map...

Mr. Wonderful
2007-04-02 @ 15:54
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor] Email
I disagree with those that say this win was handed to Morgan.
She had to play well enough to put herself in position to win.
She can only ever play her own game, what others do is out of her control.

Don't try to take anything away from her, she WON!
Congratulations Morgan ! Damn fine display of keeping your cool, kid.
Kind of makes up for the flukey eagle Birdie Kim made 2 years ago.
2007-04-02 @ 16:34
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
putt4par,
Morgan played well to get herself in contention just as Michelle played well to get herself into contention at the 2006 Kraft Nabisco. There was a big difference though.
In 2006, Michelle's fellow competitors Webb and Ochoa eagled 18, and in 2007 Morgan's fellow competitors played very poorly down the stretch.
2007-04-02 @ 17:37
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor] Email
Yes, there was a big difference. Morgan is holding the check, all else is immaterial.

In 2005, Birdie Kim was holding the trophy after what many considered a huge lucky break.

Bottom line was still a picture of Birdie Kim holding the Trophy and the check.This time, Morgan was holding the winning combination.

What any other player failed to do means absolutely nothing. Michelle Wie had exactly the same chances of anyone crumbling on the final 9 holes in 2006, -the fact the no one did is immaterial. It's called luck or being in the right place at the right time or in this case, Morgan played better than anyone else on Sunday. End of story.
2007-04-02 @ 17:47
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
According to Kathy Whitworth, Michelle Wie should put herself in a competition where she is expected/expects to win. But Michelle Wie has never won on the LPGA. She is 19th in the world, and most of the higher ranked players will be in any LPGA event she plays. Added to that is the fact that she is in a slump.

Wouldn't it make sense for Michelle Wie to join a tour like the LET where there will be events where she would be expected to win--with the bonus that there are not the restrictions that come with LPGA membership. She could play in events where she is really expected to win, and then mix in other events as well.
2007-04-02 @ 17:51
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
putt4par,

You got it right except for the part about it being luck.

Luck had nothing to do with it.

It took skill, tenacity and fortitude for Morgan to close the deal.

She is now a US Women's Amateur champion, and and the youngest winner of a major on the LPGA tour in history.

Wie Warriors, eat your hearts out.
2007-04-02 @ 17:57
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor] Email

Alex, Did you not understand what I wrote? Do you need glasses? Dyslexic maybe?
I believe I said "..in this case, Morgan played better than anyone else on Sunday. End of story. "

Also, old sock, there is always an element of luck in the game of golf. To say otherwise is to admit you are a fool.What are you admitting to, Alex?
Alex, you just have to show your prejudice and spin a story any way possible to mock Michelle Wie. Grow up man, you gain nothing with your continuous attacks on her. She hasn't played since early January and yet you keep attacking her. What do you gain?

Earlier you stated in a post that you raised 3 girls. I would be amazed if they are still talking to you with your attitude and prejudices against the opposite sex. Actually, I find it hard to believe that you are actually old enough to be a father.
Your verbal assaults on anyone and everyone in these blogs are very immature to say the least.
2007-04-02 @ 18:25
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
putt4par

Sometimes you win and luck is not much of a factor. Sometimes you get lucky when you win. Sometimes you are unlucky when you lose--other times you're just not good enough. If you want to get a handle on how well a player is doing. it pays to look beyond just win or failing to win.

Your mention of Birdie Kim raises an interesting point. Will Morgan Pressel become another Birdie Kim? I would think not because in addition to her win this week, Morgan Pressel has several high finishes this year. That would suggest there will be more wins to follow--but there is still a question. Morgan Pressel had fallen below the radar before her strong start this year. Now the expectations on Morgan Pressel are likely to be higher and we will have to wait to see how she responds.


2007-04-02 @ 19:28
Comment from: Matthew [Visitor] Email
Nobody won that tournament.
Plenty of people lost it, but nobody won it.
2007-04-02 @ 20:14
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor] Email
Jim C.
Actually, by inference I was suggesting there was some good luck/bad luck for Michelle last year.
I don't believe that you have heard the last of Morgan. She is very talented and will continue to win. Her continued presence in the top 10 or 20 says she isn't going away

As for this win by Morgan, yes Matthew she won that Title and no matter what your opinion, she managed to make a record that'll be hard to beat as well.

To suggest she didn't says you think you would have done better. Chances are pretty good that Pressel could kick your butt anytime in a game of golf. You have a bad case of Sour grapes my friend.
2007-04-02 @ 21:00
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
putt4par.
Morgan didn't put herself in a position to win. She just shot a score that would give her a decent top 5. Then the tournament was gifted to her by some very generous players.
2007-04-03 @ 07:49
Comment from: Oui Oui Oui [Visitor] Email
Johnny N,

No matter how Morgan won it, the only thing that matters is that she WON. There will be no asterick next to her name in the history book.

2007-04-03 @ 08:37
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Member]
Now that Morgan Pressel has won she can probably handle everyone's expectations of her. It doesn't matter how she won, this major tournament was a real confidence booster for her.
2007-04-03 @ 10:55
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Stacy,
If Morgan is not a very intelligent person, then the win could be great for confidence.
What, you say? What do you mean?

Well Stacy, Paula Creamer choked away an event at the SBS Open, but she got a really lucky putt on hole 17 that pretty much gave her the title. People said that would give Creamer great confidence, but in an interview after, Paula was intelligent enough to admit that the putt was really lucky. If Paula had been less intelligent to realise the amount of luck involved in that putt, then maybe she would have been more confident at the Kraft Nabisco. Instead she recognised the luck and didn't gain the confidence she could have.

Morgan Pressel got even luckier at the Kraft Nabisco. When she posted that score, she probably let her mind wander and thought, if they really really mess up, that she just might, just might sneak into a playoff. Instead through a series of strange events Morgan won the title.

If Morgan is intelligent enough to realise that she just got lucky, then next time in contention and with a putt to win, she would still not know if she could make that putt knowing it was for the win.

However if Morgan is of little intelligence, then maybe she might be fooled into thinking that the Kraft was just pure skill on her part and indeed the +5 over 5 holes for Pettersen was just run of the mill stuff, then maybe Morgan can garner the lots of confidence from it.
2007-04-03 @ 18:06
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,

It seems that the Wie-wee's have become unglued

When the courageous and tenacious Morgan Pressel stole the thunder from their darling Bubbles, it must have been too much for them to bear.

We should probably allow them to lick their wounds so as to prevent any slitting of wrists.
2007-04-03 @ 22:40
Comment from: Bad Joke [Visitor]
They wont slit their wrists....

They'll just claim a wrist injury has prevented them from using the computer.

for four months...
2007-04-04 @ 03:58
Comment from: Oui Oui Oui [Visitor] Email
Alex,

How did Pressel steal Bubble's thunder? Bubbles was not even at the event. Just let Morgan bask in the spotlight, she earned it.

By keep using Wie as a benchmark, it just seems like the Wie-detractors are still being haunted by Wie.
2007-04-04 @ 08:53
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Oui,

You obviously don't know the meaning of the expression "to steal one's thunder."

Briefly, it means to take a goal or an idea thought to be the exclusive province of an individual, and turn it to the advantage of a rival.

When Tesla invented the alternating current. electric motor and thus revolutionized the electrical industry, he "stole Edison's thunder, which irritated TAE no end.

Similarly, Morgan has won a major, somethign that the Wie-wee's predicted longly and loudly would never happen. It sticks in their collective craw, which is evidenced by the sour grapes being spewed on these boards. Does Bubbles share these sour grapes? You can bet she does!

Finally, Oui, Bubbles is no longer the benchmark, if indeed she ever was. That significance belongs to Morgan, and to a lesser degree, Paula.
2007-04-04 @ 10:42
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
edit: Morgan won a major before Bubbles.
2007-04-04 @ 10:45
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Stacy,
You were proved right, when you said Morgan will gain confidence from the win. From her press conference it was evident that she thought she masterminded the whole collapse of the other players. Somewhere between knocking in that putt, which was 3 shots off the lead and obviously very little threat to the lead, and then vatching a Van de Velde style collapse, she somehow instilled in her own mind that she knew this would happen.

2007-04-04 @ 11:17
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Alex,

Bad Joke stole my thunder, but, yes, there is cause for worry because Wiemen seem to be very wrist oriented.
2007-04-04 @ 11:59
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

If Morgan didn't KNOW she was going to win a MAJOR GOLF TOURNAMENT, she surely must have sensed it.

She started the final round FOUR strokes from the lead and swept to an easy win.

She probably figured that the rest of the field couldn't match her steady, inexorable play.

She didn't make a bogey in the final round when bogeys were all over the place.

The others didn't fold or choke. They just couldn't keep up with that miniature dynamo, Morgan "The Machine" Pressel.
2007-04-04 @ 13:25
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex said:
She started the final round FOUR strokes from the lead and swept to an easy win.
_______________________


Lets just modify that line a little Alex.
She started the final round FOUR strokes from the lead and swept to being THREE strokes off the lead at the end of it.
2007-04-04 @ 14:14
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails said:
Bad Joke stole my thunder, but, yes, there is cause for worry because Wiemen seem to be very wrist oriented.
________________________

Judge, it is you and Matthew who appear to be obsessed with discussing the gluteus maximus of a certain Miss Creamer. Maybe it's the anti-Wie men who are interested in wrist activities.
But that Judge is your own private business.
2007-04-04 @ 14:16
Comment from: bad joke [Visitor]
oops, sorry 'bout that :)
2007-04-04 @ 14:25
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

I would appreciate your direct answers to a few very simple questions questions that require a minimum research.

Which female professional golfer finished first in the recently completed Kraft Nabisco Tournament?

Which female golfer finished the four rounds of the tournament in the fewest strokes?

Which female golfer had the best score in the final round?

Which female golfer now possesses the Kraft Nabisco Championship trophy?

And finally, which female golfer was presented with the winner's check of $300,000?

Stanley, please, no convolution, a brief answer will suffice.
2007-04-04 @ 15:24
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Member]
Morgan's bogey-free play will surely translate into confidence.

And Stanley, I believe she might have felt that her mom was watching over her and that is what also gave her the confidence at the press conference. Remember, she is only 18...she's just a kid who recently lost her mom.

Who knows? This win might change her life forever...all we can do is watch.
2007-04-04 @ 15:26
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
Any news on that bet?
Are you willing to bet against Wie placing ahead of Pressel in the majority of events they both play in.
2007-04-04 @ 15:57
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Which female golfer had the best score in the final round?
Angela Stanford.
2007-04-04 @ 15:59
Comment from: Barry [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

One great score in a tournament doesn't necessarily make you the winner but it's a step towards becoming a great golfer.

When you can repeat those scores three or four days in a row, now that makes a champion.

That's the most difficult thing in golf to do...
2007-04-04 @ 16:27
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Barry,
Alex asked who had the best round, so I answered the question. Sorry I should have said that Alex asked that question, it wasn't made clear in the comment.
2007-04-04 @ 16:34
Comment from: JR [Visitor] Email
Stanley.... the best score of the last round went to
Angela Stanfor AND MORGAN PRESSEL. Did you just
accidentally forget to mention that or do you have
another agenda???
2007-04-04 @ 17:47
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

There is a persistent rumor that Bubbles won't return to competitive golf in the foreseeable future. Therefore, she may not play enough this year to make an appreciable difference.

I will say that Morgan wil finish ahead of Bubbles at least 60% of the time in common events in 2007.
2007-04-04 @ 18:28
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
In order for rumours to be called persistant, generally more than one person has to have mentioned those rumours. Okay.
2007-04-04 @ 18:31
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

What's the matter, Stash baby?

Why no answers to my simple questions?
2007-04-04 @ 18:31
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
JR,
The question that was asked by Alex was:

Which female golfer had the best score in the final round?

Note: He said which golfer, not golfers. Therefore he wanted one name, so in order to answer to question to his specification, naming one of the two who shot the best score was appropriate.
2007-04-04 @ 18:33
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

You can split hairs all you want, but Morgan still has the trophy and the check and the championship of the Kraft.

What's the matter, Stash? Why no answers to my simple questions?

2007-04-04 @ 19:30
Comment from: JR [Visitor] Email
Stanley... give me a break... sounds to me like you
are trying to justify your biased answer.
2007-04-04 @ 21:43
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
It seems to me that increasing a player's confidence will help if a player has too little confidence, but hurt if a player already has the right level of confidence or is already overconfident. Why does everyone seem to assume that MP had too little conifence?
2007-04-04 @ 22:57
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex said:
What's the matter, Stash? Why no answers to my simple questions?
_________________________

Alex, you aren't in the courtroom where people have to answer your questions directly.
If that were the case I could ask you:
- Who was the youngest person to qualify for an lpga tour event?
- What player holds the best 4 round scores for amateurs at all 4 lpga majors?
- Who player was the first female to make qualify for an adult usga male adult event.
- Who was the first female player to get through local qualifying for the US Open?

There could be a serious of questions like those asked of you Alex if you want to play that game.
2007-04-05 @ 08:50
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stash,

I thought you'd have trouble giving a direct answer to a simple question and now you've admitted it.
2007-04-05 @ 09:57
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
Would you like to answer the questions that I asked?
2007-04-05 @ 09:58
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

Michelle Wie, aka Bubbles, is the answer to all four of those trivia question.

But let's examine those "accomplishments."

So Bubbles is the first female to qualify for the US Amateur Public Links. Tell me, Stanley, who was the last female to attempt this monumental task? How many other females have ever tried to qualify for this second-tier event?

Similarly, how few females have ever attempted to qualify for the US Open, even from the waek Hawaiian sectional? Who was the female who tried to qualify for the Open just prior to Bubbles' failed attempt?

When these futile tries are measured against the actual triumphs of Morgan Pressel, Kraft Nabisco MAJOR winner, multiple junior championships, AND US Amateur champion, they pale by comparison.

Your turn, Stanley.
2007-04-05 @ 11:18
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Michelle Wie finished first in her local qualifier for last year's US Open. he was one of 3 players to advance. The 3rd qualifier was Tadd Fujikawa.
2007-04-05 @ 12:18
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Michelle Wie. She was one of 3 players to advance in what was a stroke play event that was not restricted to females.


Alex sounds like a femminist now. The Kraft Nabisco is not simply an LPGA Major it is a Major like the Masters this week.
2007-04-05 @ 12:26
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
It is bubbles unique and ground breaking desire to compete with men that has captivated the imaginations of many fans.
Of course ambition alone wouldn't have been good enough, but the fact of the breakthroughs she has had, have made a big difference. Of course it hasn't been plain sailing, golf just doesn't work that way.
There have been setbacks and there have been achievements. As Tiger Woods said in his press conference before the Masters, the vast majority of golf is failure, even for someone like him. For other great players like Mickelson, Singh and Els the failure rate is much higher than that.

So for achievements so far, to be medalist in qualifying for the US ADULT PUBLINX was a big deal, the first female to do so. Of course some people would have mentioned the usual excuses like maybe she was in a weak qualifier, but they couldn't use that excuse with the way she performed. She got through stroke play which many though she wouldn't and she made it all the way through to the quarter finals before losing to the eventual winner.

Another example is the Asian Tour where she was the first woman to make a cut on one of the 6 main pga tours in more than 60 years. Her exciting performances in mens events which included some great scores are also worthy of mention. There are many other notable achievements but Alex, you should be starting to get the picture, and guess what Alex, here's the bit you love, all by someone by the age of 17 years old, with so much potential to do so much more.

2007-04-05 @ 12:28
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
Jim C said:
Alex sounds like a femminist now. The Kraft Nabisco is not simply an LPGA Major it is a Major like the Masters this week.
_______________________


Well spotted Jim, the rumours of Alex becoming an lpga tour honourary member are sure to escalate after that.
2007-04-05 @ 12:29
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
In my opinion, Wie has proved herself to be one of the top players in the womens game.
What she is in the mens game is someone with potential. Unlike people on both sides of the argument, some pro Wie and some anti Wie, I don't pretent to know how it will turn out. I intend to enjoy finding out though.
2007-04-05 @ 12:32
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

Since this thread concerns Morgan Pressel, an LPGA member, and the Kraft Nabisco, an LPGA event, I assumed that even the Wie Warriors would know what I was talking about when I used the term "MAJOR." I rightly figured the repetition of LPGA would be redundant.

Bubbles absolutely DID NOT qualify for the US Open.
2007-04-05 @ 12:36
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Johnny,

When, where, and how did Bubbles prove that she is one of the top players in women's golf?

And that one about Bubbles being someone with potential as concerns men's golf has got to be the best one yet.

Good Golly, Miss Molly, She's SIXTY strokes OVER PAR in her last eight rounds (four event) against male competition
2007-04-05 @ 12:58
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stan,

Still no answers concerning Morgan? I din't think you'd have any
2007-04-05 @ 13:00
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
Alex,
Of course Michelle is one of the top players in womens golf.
In 2006 only 2 players had top 5s in 3 major tournaments. Those 2 players were Michelle Wie and Tiger Woods.
Also with 6 top 5 places from 8 events, she showed that she is one of the top womens players.
2007-04-05 @ 13:50
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Johnny N,

If Bubbles is the only female with top five;s in 2006 in three majors (I notice that you didn't specify LPGA Majors), and winning anything is of no consequence, that Bubbles is not one of the best, she is the absolute best.

You didn't mention anything about Bubbles' potential in the men's game. What about her SIXTY over par in her last eight rounds against men?

Most of Bubbles' decent play was before her swoon at the Deere. Since then she has been going downhill rapidly.

I hope the rumor of her not playing the rest of the year isn't true. I can use a few more laughs from the Wie-wee's.
2007-04-05 @ 14:22
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

Bubbles was not the first broad to make the cut in a Korean Tour event; that Korean gal was (her name escapes me). Check your facts.
2007-04-05 @ 16:10
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,

Stanley would never let facts get in the way of his adulation of Bubbles.

To Stanley and the rest of these birds, Bubbles deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because she finished something like 34th in a rain-shotened event on a third-rate tour that included one golfer in the top 200.
2007-04-05 @ 20:32
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
When Alex talked about the weak men's events in which Michelle played(including one where she won over a field including Tadd Fujikawa) and then talked about Morgan winning a Major, the context suggested we were talking about events of the same type. As long as we are only talking about women's events I see no problem talking about an LPGA Major as a Major. But just because the Kraft is a Major on the LPGA does not mean the play is at a higher level than a men's event such as the APL or a local qualifier for the US Open.

I believe Grace Park made a top 10 on the Korean Tour. Wie, however, played an event on the Asian Tour which was held in Korea.
2007-04-05 @ 20:36
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

You lost me there, son.

Would you care to CLARIFY your position?
2007-04-05 @ 22:26
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Stanley,
Alex is an old stodgy English teacher that can put it out, but can't take it. I am sure you remember the teacher pet types in grade school. By the way Alexia, MW had a hairline fracture of her wrist when she fell while running backwards at Palo Alto, California.
2007-04-05 @ 23:39
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Running backwards, eh? Well, that's appropriate since that's the direction in which her game had been going.
2007-04-06 @ 02:46
Comment from: Ford [Visitor] Email
So much has happened since we have all last spoken...I have been doing well, the kids are growing like weeds, my family and I have been doing quite a bit of traveling and I have been staying involved in my community through various charitable organizations--I have even been dabbling in a little bit of state and local politics. Anyway, you can imagine my suprise when I looked at these message boards for the first time in months and what should I see, but Michelle Wie's name prominently mentioned. I must admit I was more than a little suprised to see her since she has not been playing(since her burn out...I mean since her injury). What could have prompted all the usual suspects to renew the great debate all over again? Had Michelle done something of note, perhaps win a tournament while I was out of the country??? Nah, that's impossible, I'm suprised my computer actually let me type Michelle's name in the same sentence with the word win. What could it be then? Had she announced her plan to go through the PGA tours Q-school and actually try to earn her place in an event. No, the idea of actually earning something is a foreign concept to team Wie. Desperate for an answer I did some checking and I learned that Morgan Pressel had actuall won her first LPGA tournament and it was a major n less. I had my answer--It all became very clear to me. The hated enemy of Michelle Wie had broken through before her. The girl with the audacity to question the hype surrounding Michelle, the girl who dared bring up the fact that Michelle had precious little on her resume(just one title of note and a lesser one at that), the short stocky girl who lacks all of the physical gifts that Michelle posseses in spades, the girl who took the crazy approach of actually winning and dominating at every level of golf before she moved up in class--The anti-Michelle. For all enternity it will be written that Morgan Pressel won before the chosen one and that must make Michelle's fans crazy--I mean more crazy than usual. I could talk about Michelle's well documented win total, her recent attempts to play with the men and the shame they have brought to her family and the great game of golf, I could discuss her so-called injury and the fact that to date her career has been more Ty Tryon than Tiger Woods, but I am not here to do that. I am here to tell, no beg Alex, Smails, JohnD and the other rational people on this site to lay off the Wie fans. Please show some compassion, they have had a rough year and from the looks of it things are not going to get better anytime soon. I beg of all of you to take it easy on Michelle and her long suffering fan base, after all it is hard to back a winless savior. I do n
2007-04-06 @ 08:43
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ford,

You want us to lay off the Wie-wee's?

Not on your life! It's too much fun.

The sound of Wie Warrior heads exploding is music to my ears. :-)
2007-04-06 @ 09:04
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails said:
Stanley,
Bubbles was not the first broad to make the cut in a Korean Tour event; that Korean gal was (her name escapes me). Check your facts.
________________________

Se Ri Pak made the cut on the Korean Tour.
Michelle Wie made the cut on the Asian Tour.

The Korean Tour is a local tour with no ranking point available for even the winner.
The Asian Tour on which Michelle made the cut is a tour which is recognised for ranking purposes and the top 17 at that event are guaranteed ranking points.
There is a huge difference, so get your facts straight.
2007-04-06 @ 09:05
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Ford said:
For all enternity it will be written that Morgan Pressel won before the chosen one and that must make Michelle's fans crazy.
________________________

Guess what Ford,
Annika also won before Michelle, as did Karrie, Paula, Se Ri, Julieta.
Do you know what else?
Julieta won before Morgan, as did Paula, Annika, Karrie, Se Ri, Stacy. Another thing, Nancy Lopez won before Morgan Pressel. Isn't that just so interesting?

What is your point about a player winning before another player. That means nothing. The fact that Nancy Lopez won such a long time before Morgan Pressel means nothing.
It is relative ages of the first win that counts, and in my opinion, Wie will have the distinction of winning younger than Morgan Pressel did, and that's the important thing.
2007-04-06 @ 09:15
Comment from: Ronnie [Visitor] Email
Ford,
You are on the ball. It was nice the way you got in the little reference for Miss Piggy where you refered to her as "the short stocky girl".
There is the short stocky girl and there is also the overly tall girl.
Then there is a girl of 5 foot 9, neither short nor too tall, but rather the perfect example of femininity gone right, yes Paula Creamer, with 5 victories to her name already.
One fluky win for Pressel where she was handed the title does not put her in Paula Creamers league.
2007-04-06 @ 10:02
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ford,

I think you're right, The humane thing to do would be to lay off the Wie-wee's.

From Stanley's last post, it is obvious that he is losing his grip.

These Wie Warriors could easily become a case study in group schizophenia. Notice how Stanley and the othe Wiebots arrive at a pre-concevd notion. They then adopt this notion as absolute fact. Then they work backwards, spinning a web of distortions, convolution, hyperbole, and soothsaying to arive back at that very same pre-conceived pseudo-doctrine.

And apparently it all makes sense to these poor saps.

So I realize that the Wie skeptics, out of a sense of compassion, should refrain from badgering these misguided souls.

Will we show the Wie-wee's any mercy?

Nah! As I said, it's too much fun! :-)
2007-04-06 @ 10:18
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
You made a good post apart from the fact that you were describing anti-Wie brigaders as opposed to Wie Warriers.

The things you said about them having pre-conceived notions and then sppining wb of distorions, convolution etc described the anti-Wie brigade perfectly.
It is the anti-Wie brigade who invent conspiracy theories about the truth of the injuries, and other things.
2007-04-06 @ 10:46
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Another brilliant, original post by that paragon of Wiedom, Stanley!

I've known people who have recovered from catastrophic automobile accidents in less time than it's taking Bubbles to recover from her suspicious "injury."
2007-04-06 @ 11:57
Comment from: bad joke [Visitor]
Them teenagers sure take a long time to heal I reckon!
2007-04-06 @ 14:07
Comment from: Stanley [Visitor] Email
Alex,
Obviously you know nothing about wrist injuries. Michelle only got the cast off about a week before the Kraft Nabisco. They had previously taken it off a couple of weeks before but were unhappy of the progress and kept it on for longer.
She was able to hit some putts and short game shots for the later part, but it wasn't until very close to the Kraft that she started full swing practice.
Even at that she has only been playing for limited time periods, in order to avoid taking any chances.
Her rehabilitation is going well, but what has she to rush back for?
The lpga championship starts June 7th. That is an important event for her. The most important thing in her preparations is that she is fit to play that event.

Rushing to play any event and to risk jeapordizing the lpga championship would be a reckless and stupid thing to do.

Hopefully Michelle is sensible enough to play tournament golf when she is ready to play tournament golf.
2007-04-06 @ 15:16
Comment from: bad joke [Visitor]
Stanley, I commend you. You have alot of inside information about Michelle's rehabilitation progress. Thank you for sharing. (i'm serious, no sarcasm) :)
2007-04-06 @ 16:21
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

That's what I said. She has chosen not to plaA for an INDEFINITE period.
2007-04-06 @ 16:22
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Stanley,

I stand corrected about Grace Park and the Bubbles. Of course, I still don't think much of the latter's "accomplishments."

Alex,

Given Bubbles' implosion, I think the Wie Warriors should now be referred to as the "Wie Worriers."
2007-04-06 @ 17:46
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,

I'm not sure if Bubbles has imploded or fizzled out.
2007-04-06 @ 18:36
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
ALEX

Wie did win her local(first round) qualifier for last years US Open ahead of the 3rd and final qualifier Tadd Fujikawa.
2007-04-07 @ 12:08
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

Since you insist on splitting hairs, the US Open was played last year at Winged Foot.

Bubbles did not tee it up at the US Open. Period. The reason she did not play at Winged Foot is that she didn't QUALIFY. If she had qualified, she would have started and you Wie Warriors would still be raving about it.

Now for the clincher. I didn't bring Tadd into the discussion, but since you saw fit to mention his name, Master Tadd DID QUALIFY and he DID PLAY last year's US Open. And he was only FIFTEEN years old at the time!
2007-04-07 @ 13:08
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
And in their local qualifier Michelle Wie won and Tadd was third, which allowed him to advance. Tadd then won the Hawaiian Final Qualifier, while Wie missed out playing in a different final qualifier. I suspectm people would have questioned the difficulty of the Hawaiian Final Qualifier if it had been Wie who was the sole player to advance instead of Fujikawa.
2007-04-07 @ 18:05
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

Master Fujikawa also qualified for that PGA Tour event (the Sony?) and finished about 20th, I believe. That is something Bubbles will never do.

By the way, as I said before, Bubbles matured early and reached her ultimate level when she was 14; Fujikawa, on the other hand, is following a more normal learning curve and is no doubt better now than when he was 15.

He is improving rapidly and is far superior to Bubbles. You know it and I know it.
2007-04-07 @ 18:21
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,

I would bet that virtually all the Wie Warriors know down deep that Bubbles can never realize the lofty and unrealistic goals they have set for her in their dreams.

But to reluctantly admit as much would require that they abandon the Good Ship Wie, and the they just can't bring themselves to do it.

If Bubbles were to give up golf entirely, which is definitely possible, they would still reminisce about how great she could have been if this, that, or the other hadn't happened

These Wiebots remind me a lot of the backers of a certain Presidential candidate in 2000.
Six and one half years later, they still can't get over it. They're still moaning "We wuz robbed!"

On the lighter side, it is really entertaining the way Jim C twist himself into a pretzel in his attempts to rationalize Bubbles' flops. Anyway, keep it up Jimbo, we love ya!
2007-04-08 @ 07:49
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Alex,

Yes, and that presidential candidate just has to be the Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler of the Dum-dums.
2007-04-09 @ 02:15
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,
What do you think of Al Gore's film?
2007-04-09 @ 08:41
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Johnny N.,

Algore gave several campaign speeches in 2000 in which he spoke of the fond memories he had of the years he spent attending one-room country schoolhouses in rural Tennessee.

In fact, Gore never went to school a single day in anything like that. His father was a US senator and Algore went to exclusive private schools in the Washington, DC area.

Several times, Gore has said that he played a major role in the invention and development of the internet. In fact, he never had a thing to do with it.

His film has the same amount of credibility as those two instances.
2007-04-09 @ 12:03
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Johnny N,

What Alex said is spot-on. I'll only add that Gore was a tobacco farmer who scored Dole for being pro-tobacco. Also, his fiction-mentary is what won him the title of Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler of the Dum-dums.
2007-04-09 @ 14:29
Comment from: Ghet Rheel [Visitor] Email
Well, the advertisers demands for substantial ad rate reductions should be rolling in to tha LPGA offices long about now. Wonder when the LPGA will realize that they need Michelle a hell of a lot more than she needs them.

Wouldn't bother me if Michelle sat out the entire Summer. Let 'em stew in their own vile juices.

Nice job by the Masters brass further Tiger-proofing the track... One-time PGA winner Zack Johnson flukes his way into the winner's circle... Next year they should just pick numbers out of a hat for the green jacket instead of wasting the viewers time wondering who will fluke their way into the Master's championship in '08.

Tiger-proofing agaist the greatest golfer of our age. What a pathetic joke. Ayn Rand had it right.
2007-04-10 @ 03:59
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ghet SurRheel,

When did they let you out? Were you in jail, rehab, or the funny farm?

I see you're expecting Bubbles to milk her "injury" for the rest of summer(and presumably the rest of the year?)

Her game had pretty much tanked anyway so she might as well try to elicit some sympathy.

Are you another clown that expects Woods to win every time out? Jeepers creepers! He scored as well or better than every player in the tournament except Zach.

Ghet Lost, they didn't just make the course difficult for Tiger. The other guys play the same 18 holes in case you're interested.
2007-04-10 @ 04:42
Comment from: widseole [Visitor] Email
***--
What about Nancy Lopez? Why doesn't Kathy Whitworth criticize Nancy Lopez for playing in the Ginn Open next week instead of on the Legends Tour where she might be expected to win?
2010-04-20 @ 00:21
Comment from: Ardis Loparco [Visitor]
talented blog you've sit on
2010-10-31 @ 12:52
Comment from: docomo gprs setting [Visitor]
Very interesting.
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