Are Michelle Wie's PGA footsteps too big for Creamer & Pressel?
Thursday May 11, 2006 | 14:44:06 501 words, 12699 views
Although Michelle Wie is not playing golf in the Michelob Ultra Open, her name is still mentioned to all of the ladies during the pre-tournament interviews. The essence of the question was would the ladies ever consider entering the men’s arena like Michelle Wie has successfully done?
Could it be that Dana Gross-Rhode is secretly wishing that she was interviewing Wie instead of the likes of Morgan Pressel and Paula Creamer or is her agenda more sinister, attempting to provoke the ladies yet again by throwing them six-foot Wiesy curveballs?
The ladies remained gracious in their responses with both Pressel and Creamer not ruling out the possibility of a stab at stardom on the PGA Tour but also emphasizing that their main goal is to compete, and win, on the LPGA tour.
Paula Creamer stated, “Right now, I don’t have any desire to do that. Maybe later down the road. There’s just so much I want to do out here first. I mean, this is my second year, and I feel that there’s just so much to achieve.”
Morgan Pressel wouldn’t rule out a try on the men’s tour in the future but “as of right now, I wish to concentrate on the ladies tour and play as well as I can out here.”
Ron Sirak compared the paths of Tiger Woods and Michelle Wie in a recent article on ESPN.com. Although Woods’ father Earl established reachable goals in one area of his game before moving on to the next, the strategy of Wie’s father is to set the bar high and have Michelle jump over it, with the possibility of completely foregoing the traditional LPGA route.
Two different paths to achieving the goal of golf prominence. Which one should the ladies choose? Which is the more realistic? By allowing Michelle Wie exemptions into men’s events shouldn’t the ladies have the same opportunities? Should Pressel and Creamer “pull a Michelle Wie” and try their luck immediately on the men’s tour before gaining strength and prestige on their own tour? If all the ladies decided to do this, wouldn’t the LPGA tour just become a glorified Futures Tour?
Annika Sorenstam says that she has been invited yet again to play in a men’s event. Although she enjoyed the experience and hopes to get an invite to skins games and made-for-television match-ups Annika says, “No, I’m not going to do it, no. Not an official PGA event.”
Although Michelle Wie should be congratulated for her great play recently at the SK Telecom Open, would she have performed better if she would have taken the path of the LPGA and won a few events before entering men’s events or is B.J. Wie correct in the road he has chosen for his daughter? Only time will tell. In the meantime it would be nice for Rhode to concentrate her questions on the players and their preparations for this week’s “fifth major” instead of slipping in the name “Michelle Wie” to enhance google hits.
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Comment from: Maggy [Visitor]
Pressel and Creamer KNOW they couldn't make the cut in a men's tournament. Hey, Pressel can't even make the cut with women!! Someone should duct tape her mouth shut. She is an old biddie before her time.
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2006-05-11 @ 15:52
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
Firstly, if any event in women's golf is a 5th major, it's the Evian Masters.
Of course there is no 5th major though.
On Pressel and Creamer, I would be surprised if Pressel proke 85 on a pga course and surprised if Creamer broke 80.
I think that is the real reason why they don't want to play with the men. They basically know that they are not good enough. They can decorate it all they like, but the fact is that they just don't hit the ball long enough and arn't strong enough.
Who's to say what may happen for Creamer. She has added 15 yards over the off season. She is 5 foot 9, so she isn't a small girl. If she continues to improve her game, then maybe she could try something against the men down the line.
For Pressel, I don't think there is a realistic chance of her doing anything against the men. She probably know that but won't admit it, because she doesn't want to admit Wie can do something she can't.
Pressel's jealousy was further emphasised when she said Wie's 35th place was no big deal.
Does Pressel think she could make a cut against men on a 7,100 yard course?
One might have thought Pressel would have been humbled by missing the cut last week on the lpga tour.
When did Michelle Wie last miss an lpga cut?
More importantly, I think Wie will make every lpga cut, bar injury or dq for many years to come.
Of course there is no 5th major though.
On Pressel and Creamer, I would be surprised if Pressel proke 85 on a pga course and surprised if Creamer broke 80.
I think that is the real reason why they don't want to play with the men. They basically know that they are not good enough. They can decorate it all they like, but the fact is that they just don't hit the ball long enough and arn't strong enough.
Who's to say what may happen for Creamer. She has added 15 yards over the off season. She is 5 foot 9, so she isn't a small girl. If she continues to improve her game, then maybe she could try something against the men down the line.
For Pressel, I don't think there is a realistic chance of her doing anything against the men. She probably know that but won't admit it, because she doesn't want to admit Wie can do something she can't.
Pressel's jealousy was further emphasised when she said Wie's 35th place was no big deal.
Does Pressel think she could make a cut against men on a 7,100 yard course?
One might have thought Pressel would have been humbled by missing the cut last week on the lpga tour.
When did Michelle Wie last miss an lpga cut?
More importantly, I think Wie will make every lpga cut, bar injury or dq for many years to come.
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2006-05-11 @ 16:51
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
Michelle Wie at this stage in her career has not proved she can make a cut on the PGA Tour, let alone contend in any level men's tournament. Michelle Wie for all her talent and distance is still light years away from being a threat on any tour other then the LPGA. The thought that Morgan Pressel or the light hitting Paula Creamer could ever compete on the PGA Tour is absolutely ludicrous and in their hearts even they must know that. I know it must be frustrating for Paula(with her 4 worldwide victories) especially to constantly answer questions about Michelle(0 wins), but the sad truth is that Michelle's pursuit of playing with the men is more interesting then the LPGA.
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2006-05-11 @ 17:06
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
When standing next to Michelle both Morgan and Paula are covered by a pretty big shadow.
Maybe you haven't noticed the LPGA will not publish any photos of Michelle standing directly beside any of their players. That is why Bivens wanted to control the photographs taken at LPGA events. It is hard to look larger than life when you are looking up to a sixteen year old.
This picture haunts them to this day:
http://www.seoulsisters.com/players/misc/galleries/sisters/Sisters%202005/pages/jj_wie_bopen05_rd4trophies_jpg.htm
Maybe you haven't noticed the LPGA will not publish any photos of Michelle standing directly beside any of their players. That is why Bivens wanted to control the photographs taken at LPGA events. It is hard to look larger than life when you are looking up to a sixteen year old.
This picture haunts them to this day:
http://www.seoulsisters.com/players/misc/galleries/sisters/Sisters%202005/pages/jj_wie_bopen05_rd4trophies_jpg.htm
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2006-05-11 @ 17:39
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
I really don't believe that Pressel nor Creamer have dreams of playing on the men's tour and I think they both realize that. This is probably why it must irk them when Wie's name is mentioned, although I think putting the players on the spot like that is wrong.
Pressel probably realizes that she receives the most attention when she speaks out of turn.
And Paula Creamer will be thrilled to get back a little of that magic she had in her rookie season!
And to Johnny N., it is not necessarily the long ball hitter that wins the tournaments...but in this case I agree. ;-)
Pressel probably realizes that she receives the most attention when she speaks out of turn.
And Paula Creamer will be thrilled to get back a little of that magic she had in her rookie season!
And to Johnny N., it is not necessarily the long ball hitter that wins the tournaments...but in this case I agree. ;-)
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2006-05-11 @ 18:08
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Are Michelle Wie's PGA footsteps too big for Creamer & Pressel?"
They always will be unable to fill her shoes unless they can find a way to fit into a size 10 mens golf shoe. That is not a fair question. :-)
They always will be unable to fill her shoes unless they can find a way to fit into a size 10 mens golf shoe. That is not a fair question. :-)
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2006-05-11 @ 18:12
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
Stacy, I also agree that it isn't the long hitter who always wins the tournament, and I love it when more accurate players like Funk do well.
By the way, Creamer has said on more than one occasion that she would indeed like to take on the men. However she thinks that is a few years away yet.
She wants to become the number 1 female player and do lots more on the lpga tour first, but when she has achieved that she has explicitly stated that she does want to play against men.
If she can add length, I think she is right. She has a great game, hits plenty of greens in regulation and is a good putter.
By the way, Creamer has said on more than one occasion that she would indeed like to take on the men. However she thinks that is a few years away yet.
She wants to become the number 1 female player and do lots more on the lpga tour first, but when she has achieved that she has explicitly stated that she does want to play against men.
If she can add length, I think she is right. She has a great game, hits plenty of greens in regulation and is a good putter.
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2006-05-11 @ 18:47
Comment from: GeorgeM [Visitor]
The article suggests:
1. Earl Woods & BJ Wie dictated the goals for their children.
2. It is possible for Wie to concentrate more on the LPGA.
I know 2 to be false and wonder about 1.
In the case of Michelle, it is my understanding the goals of the Masters and PGA TOUR are/were hers.
As to concentrating more on LPGA competition - HOW?
She already enters all the LPGA events allowed.
If Wie did not play against male professioanls, she would not have any real competition beyond 6-8 events per year.
1. Earl Woods & BJ Wie dictated the goals for their children.
2. It is possible for Wie to concentrate more on the LPGA.
I know 2 to be false and wonder about 1.
In the case of Michelle, it is my understanding the goals of the Masters and PGA TOUR are/were hers.
As to concentrating more on LPGA competition - HOW?
She already enters all the LPGA events allowed.
If Wie did not play against male professioanls, she would not have any real competition beyond 6-8 events per year.
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2006-05-11 @ 18:58
Comment from: calgolfer [Visitor]
BTW, CHUBSy, i.e., pressel is tied for 70th at 2 over after the 1st round at michelob, 7 shots of the lead.
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2006-05-11 @ 19:18
Comment from: John Neal [Visitor]
calgolfer, lest you gloat over much, Morgan is tied with Annika Sorenstam and Lorena Ochoa. Se Ri Pak and Grace Park as in the same position. Let's let it go another round before drawing any conclusions.
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2006-05-11 @ 20:04
Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
whatever happened to the number 1 player in women's golf; and to the rookie of the year; and #1 women's amateur? So far this seaon, it has been a so-so/mediocre season for all three which is why there is noone else to talk about than Michelle. And who cares about Lorena, she is not American.
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2006-05-11 @ 20:15
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Each time Morgan shoots off her mouth, she goes out and backs it up on the golf course......right?
Maybe she should take the fifth when she gets a Michelle Wie question.
Maybe she should take the fifth when she gets a Michelle Wie question.
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2006-05-11 @ 20:39
Comment from: Paul W [Visitor]
Why are they interviewing Creamer and Pressel anyway? They are 13th and 31st on the money list. What about Webb and Inkster?
I'd like to see the press stop baiting the other players with questions about Wie. I understand it makes headlines, but it only increases the resentment against Wie.
I'd like to see the press stop baiting the other players with questions about Wie. I understand it makes headlines, but it only increases the resentment against Wie.
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2006-05-11 @ 21:05
Comment from: Boola Boss [Visitor]
Right now neither Morgan or The Pink Panther have the strength or talent to compete in PGA events. I don't think Morgan ever will, but Paula could if she improves in several categories.
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2006-05-11 @ 21:59
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Perhaps Morgan could give back all the money and go back to gain more amateur experience by playing with other little girls.
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2006-05-11 @ 22:09
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Paula should work on bulking up more than she did in the off-season so he can hit her drives futher into the woods.
That extra yardage has really made the difference for her this season.
As far as Lorena goes I enjoy watching her play and I don't think another woman on the tour hits a five wood as well as she does. She is smokin that thing on par fives.
That extra yardage has really made the difference for her this season.
As far as Lorena goes I enjoy watching her play and I don't think another woman on the tour hits a five wood as well as she does. She is smokin that thing on par fives.
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2006-05-11 @ 22:21
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
futher = further
Stick an edit button on here admin.
Stick an edit button on here admin.
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2006-05-11 @ 22:24
Comment from: Sheryl [Visitor]
Let me see--the great Morgan Pressel who loves to trash talk because of her great amateur career is now tied for 70th place after missing a cut on the LPGA a week ago. (Then has the gall to downplay Michelle's making the cut at a men's event)
This was right after two meltdowns at the Fields and Kraft Nabisco--Wow she sure is showing that Michelle Wie how to get it done!
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2006-05-11 @ 22:29
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Comment from: Sheryl [Visitor]
Let me see--the great Morgan Pressel who loves to trash talk because of her great amateur career is now tied for 70th place after missing a cut on the LPGA a week ago. (Then has the gall to downplay Michelle's making the cut at a men's event)
This was right after two meltdowns at the Fields and Kraft Nabisco--Wow she sure is showing that Michelle Wie how to get it done!"
Well Sheryl you are off by a couple of spots: Morgan is tied for 68th place in the field at +2 but she is ready to topple the leaders tomorrow.
Let me see--the great Morgan Pressel who loves to trash talk because of her great amateur career is now tied for 70th place after missing a cut on the LPGA a week ago. (Then has the gall to downplay Michelle's making the cut at a men's event)
This was right after two meltdowns at the Fields and Kraft Nabisco--Wow she sure is showing that Michelle Wie how to get it done!"
Well Sheryl you are off by a couple of spots: Morgan is tied for 68th place in the field at +2 but she is ready to topple the leaders tomorrow.
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2006-05-11 @ 22:49
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
With the help of the "bear baiting" done by the press, Morgan is definitely shooting herself in the foot. Sorry about the mixed metaphors but ya'll get the drift.
Sometimes i'd like to play mean old grampa with that girl, take her out by the hedge and give her a talking to. I'd tell her to say to the reporters, "next question please or the interview is over." If she did that a couple of times, they'd leave her alone and my respect would go way up.
Come on kid, we may be ticked at you and your mouth, but you are better than that, prove by keeping your mouth closed.
One of the problems is that old Herb encourages her cause he thinks it's great that his G-daughter is fiesty.
As for Lorena, she is one heck of a golfer and I don't mind seeing her win at all.
Paula is pretty pc when the reporters bait her but when you watch her answer the questions you can see she is itching to give them an answer. Whether it would be about Wie or about the reporters ethics is the question, lol. I love Paula cause she can back up her talk, mostly. And she is class all the way. She'll get it all together again, no doubt.
I still think Rick Arnett at SI has a better take on MW's plans than anyone else at the moment. Michelle really doesn't need the LPGA, ut they need her. Whether they wise up and take advantage of MW's public image and talent or not is another story. Thye could loosen the strings for the full time of MWs summer break and have her on tour, making big waves for the LPGA but somehow I doubt if that'll happen.
She is going to change the way the LPGA handles the younger generation although maybe not in time to help herself.
Sometimes i'd like to play mean old grampa with that girl, take her out by the hedge and give her a talking to. I'd tell her to say to the reporters, "next question please or the interview is over." If she did that a couple of times, they'd leave her alone and my respect would go way up.
Come on kid, we may be ticked at you and your mouth, but you are better than that, prove by keeping your mouth closed.
One of the problems is that old Herb encourages her cause he thinks it's great that his G-daughter is fiesty.
As for Lorena, she is one heck of a golfer and I don't mind seeing her win at all.
Paula is pretty pc when the reporters bait her but when you watch her answer the questions you can see she is itching to give them an answer. Whether it would be about Wie or about the reporters ethics is the question, lol. I love Paula cause she can back up her talk, mostly. And she is class all the way. She'll get it all together again, no doubt.
I still think Rick Arnett at SI has a better take on MW's plans than anyone else at the moment. Michelle really doesn't need the LPGA, ut they need her. Whether they wise up and take advantage of MW's public image and talent or not is another story. Thye could loosen the strings for the full time of MWs summer break and have her on tour, making big waves for the LPGA but somehow I doubt if that'll happen.
She is going to change the way the LPGA handles the younger generation although maybe not in time to help herself.
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2006-05-11 @ 23:03
Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
Interesting article.
Sure, the interviewer could only ask the young Pressel and Creamer about Wie and PGA, because Webb and Inkster in their mid-age career won't try the PGA.
Why is Wie so popular despite being winless ? It is not because people care about the sport golf (compared to NFL, MLB, NBA etc), but rather intrigued about the fact that a 6 foot tall beauty can (or is trying to) compete with men. Women and girls like to see a historic gender breaking event and men like to watch the powerful swing of a supermodel. In fact, because Wie plays in men's event, that is what brings this popularity. Champions and great players come and go, but pioneers are rare.
Sure, the interviewer could only ask the young Pressel and Creamer about Wie and PGA, because Webb and Inkster in their mid-age career won't try the PGA.
Why is Wie so popular despite being winless ? It is not because people care about the sport golf (compared to NFL, MLB, NBA etc), but rather intrigued about the fact that a 6 foot tall beauty can (or is trying to) compete with men. Women and girls like to see a historic gender breaking event and men like to watch the powerful swing of a supermodel. In fact, because Wie plays in men's event, that is what brings this popularity. Champions and great players come and go, but pioneers are rare.
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2006-05-11 @ 23:18
Comment from: Wayne [Visitor] · http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-4/1168157/Michelle.Wie.going.postal.gif
1. The LPGA talks about selling their players as individual brand names to the public.
2. You got the hottest brand name out there in Michelle Wie.
3. But, there's a problem -- she's not one of you.
It behooves the LPGA to do the right thing right now. And then maybe, there's hope in shedding their second-rate tag as an organization.
2. You got the hottest brand name out there in Michelle Wie.
3. But, there's a problem -- she's not one of you.
It behooves the LPGA to do the right thing right now. And then maybe, there's hope in shedding their second-rate tag as an organization.
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2006-05-12 @ 00:08
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
If Michelle were offered an LPGA card I doubt if she would accept the limitations that come along with it. The LPGA demands certain contractual requirements from their players and Michelle wants a chance to try other golf venues.
The best that the LPGA could hope for is that she would show up for a few more events if they increased the exemptions.
The best that the LPGA could hope for is that she would show up for a few more events if they increased the exemptions.
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2006-05-12 @ 01:26
Comment from: VernonW [Visitor]
I wish sports writers or people who think they are sports writers would check out their facts before passing on false statements. Michelle's golf ambitions are her own, not her parents. She said that in all of her earlier interviews. Even now, Michelle participates in and makes the final decisions on her career. Check it out. Don't underestimate this young girl's intelligence.
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2006-05-12 @ 02:33
Comment from: Christy [Visitor] · http://www.justbesttravel.com/
When Creamer and Pressel are ready to compete, then it hardly matters whether they are standing against men or women.As Creamer says "that there's so much to achieve" , then better concentrate on your hardwork rather than the competitor.
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2006-05-12 @ 03:04
Comment from: Wolfgang [Visitor]
I really have a problem with this blog post. First off, Pressel was NOT GRACIAS AT ALL. If you read the whole interview, you would have noticed her comment on how Michelle's performance in Korea was no big deal, and that lots of ladies on the LPGA could have done it...can you say Jealousy?
And also, how can Michelle try to "win" on the LPGA more and then try to take on the men, if she's only allowed 6 exemptions? I mean...critics always say she should focus on the LPGA...but the fact is SHE IS! She is focusing on the LPGA as much as the LPGA is allowing her to. She's already gotten 6 top 3's in her last 9 LPGA starts. She is the most consistant female golfer out there today! (maybe Ochoa or Seon Hwa Lee could be considered for this as well, but those two only started to get real consistant this season.)
The bottom line is, if the LPGA is only going to allow her 6 exemptions and expects her to focus more on the LPGA (quoted by the likes of Dottie Pepper and Nancy Lopez), how is she going to receive that experience that one gets from playing actual tournaments? 8 tournaments a year is not going to help her. With the PGA and International mens tour exemptions, michelle is getting the tournament play and experience that she needs.
And also, how can Michelle try to "win" on the LPGA more and then try to take on the men, if she's only allowed 6 exemptions? I mean...critics always say she should focus on the LPGA...but the fact is SHE IS! She is focusing on the LPGA as much as the LPGA is allowing her to. She's already gotten 6 top 3's in her last 9 LPGA starts. She is the most consistant female golfer out there today! (maybe Ochoa or Seon Hwa Lee could be considered for this as well, but those two only started to get real consistant this season.)
The bottom line is, if the LPGA is only going to allow her 6 exemptions and expects her to focus more on the LPGA (quoted by the likes of Dottie Pepper and Nancy Lopez), how is she going to receive that experience that one gets from playing actual tournaments? 8 tournaments a year is not going to help her. With the PGA and International mens tour exemptions, michelle is getting the tournament play and experience that she needs.
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2006-05-12 @ 04:43
Comment from: Alan M [Visitor]
In the article you say
"if she would have taken the path of the LPGA and won a few events before entering men's events or is B.J. Wie correct in the road he has chosen for his daughter? Only time will tell"
Rubbish. Time won't tell anything, she has taken a particular path and her career is set accordingly.
By the way. This is the right path for her, because she chose it.
Alan M
"if she would have taken the path of the LPGA and won a few events before entering men's events or is B.J. Wie correct in the road he has chosen for his daughter? Only time will tell"
Rubbish. Time won't tell anything, she has taken a particular path and her career is set accordingly.
By the way. This is the right path for her, because she chose it.
Alan M
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2006-05-12 @ 06:07
Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
I am of the opinion that it is not the path but the individual that matters. Tiger would have succeeded in any path he would have chosen, and the same with Wie.
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2006-05-12 @ 08:14
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
The comments floating around are a calculated effort by the LPGA to change Michelle's mind from the path she has taken. The LPGA is a business owned and controlled by the players who understand when Michelle is in the field the numbers are up. The problem is Michelle wants more than the LPGA can offer, the freedom to play where and when she wants in whatever event she chooses. The chance to test herself against the best players (male or female)in the world and see if she has what it takes to compete on their level.
Maybe she won't be successful playing with the guys as the odds are stacked very high against her, but she should have the right to try anyway.
There will be a defining moment in Michelle's life when she will decide which way to go.
Who knows, if she somehow manages to make it through qualifying and end up on the first tee of the U.S. Open that might be her moment to decide as she would become a golf legend in her own time.
If she is competative on the PGA tour they would welcome her into the fold. The PGA is owned by the players and they can tolerate a girl in their midst when they know it increases revenue.
After all business is business.
Maybe she won't be successful playing with the guys as the odds are stacked very high against her, but she should have the right to try anyway.
There will be a defining moment in Michelle's life when she will decide which way to go.
Who knows, if she somehow manages to make it through qualifying and end up on the first tee of the U.S. Open that might be her moment to decide as she would become a golf legend in her own time.
If she is competative on the PGA tour they would welcome her into the fold. The PGA is owned by the players and they can tolerate a girl in their midst when they know it increases revenue.
After all business is business.
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2006-05-12 @ 08:40
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
Wie's consistancy on the lpga tour is amazing.
Apart from Annika she is the most consistant player over the last couple of years.
In the mens side she has aquitted herself well. Some may think she started too early, but I think she was right.
Although she missed early cuts, I think she is ready to start making alot of cuts.
I think she will make the cut at the Casio in Japan, and I think she has a great chance of making the cut at, at least one of the 2 pga events.
Apart from Annika she is the most consistant player over the last couple of years.
In the mens side she has aquitted herself well. Some may think she started too early, but I think she was right.
Although she missed early cuts, I think she is ready to start making alot of cuts.
I think she will make the cut at the Casio in Japan, and I think she has a great chance of making the cut at, at least one of the 2 pga events.
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2006-05-12 @ 09:35
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
I agree with putt4par that Michelle Wie doesn't need the LPGA...it needs her! Even with the new advertising campaign, "These Girls Rock", it rocks more when she's in the field.
I'll bet the Sybase Classic will be much emptier next week, even with Sorenstam taking center stage.
And, as far as MW choosing her own career, she still is just 16. I remember when I was that age and your parents still have alot of input, no matter what is said to the press, etc.
I'll bet the Sybase Classic will be much emptier next week, even with Sorenstam taking center stage.
And, as far as MW choosing her own career, she still is just 16. I remember when I was that age and your parents still have alot of input, no matter what is said to the press, etc.
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2006-05-12 @ 09:39
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
I agree with much of what is being said on this blog. I think Michelle Wie is a singular talent and the only current women/girl who can hope to compete against the men in a reasonably competitive manner. I also have no problem with the path she has chosen to achieve golf success, though I feel it has cost her wins in the short term, I believe her dream big and take your lumps against the best will pay off huge divedends in the near future. One thing I do not agree with, however is the Pressel bashing. Does Morgan Pressel have the talent and overall game of Michelle Wie? No. Has she said some things she probably should not have? Yes. Is she jealous of Michelle, her fame, endoresments and unlimited potential? Probably. Just like Michelle she is a child and deserves the same courtesy and respect. Many of the same people who level claims of child abuse at the likes of Chris Baldwin and others who dare criticize Michelle are on this blog attacking Morgan and her family in much the same way. I used to watch women's golf when I wanted to fall asleep or when I wanted to feel good about how far I hit the ball compared to them. Now I watch because of the high level of play and because of the names like, Sorrenstam, Wie, Creamer, Ochoa, Webb and yes even Pressel. Let's let each do it their way and sit back and enjoy.
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2006-05-12 @ 09:55
Comment from: hc2 [Visitor]
In regards to the pioneering aspects of Michelle, if she goes onto make a couple of cuts in the PGA this year, I can see her accepting to play in the middle east such as the Dubai or Qatar Open. Imagine how inspiring that would be for little girls in the Middle East; and of course for the Women's movement there as well! We already saw how she has been welcomed in Asia in spite of the fact that Korea and Japan already have their own native golfers in the PGA.
I think that is what Michelle is trying to do most: break social barriers aside from being a golf champion. Being a champ in golf is relatively a minor feat as there are dozens/scores of them; breaking barriers and changing how ordinary folks think would be truly a milestone. Michelle can accomplish what Earl Woods said of what Tiger was going to do:influence global society in a similar fashion as Gandhi or Mandela.
Michelle will win many LPGA tournaments; but she will not be known for that. She will be known for her accomplishments in men's golf even if they are minor: qualifying for a PGA major, making a cut, etc..
I think that is what Michelle is trying to do most: break social barriers aside from being a golf champion. Being a champ in golf is relatively a minor feat as there are dozens/scores of them; breaking barriers and changing how ordinary folks think would be truly a milestone. Michelle can accomplish what Earl Woods said of what Tiger was going to do:influence global society in a similar fashion as Gandhi or Mandela.
Michelle will win many LPGA tournaments; but she will not be known for that. She will be known for her accomplishments in men's golf even if they are minor: qualifying for a PGA major, making a cut, etc..
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2006-05-12 @ 10:38
Comment from: ToddCommish [Visitor]
Hey, I don't think anyone disagrees with the fact that Michelle Wie is the most likely woman to be able to compete on the PGA tour. That doesn't mean that she WILL or SHOULD try.
Put it this way, the men's game is a different game than the women's game, due to the premium on length and strength (rough), especially given the "Tiger-proofing" of so many PGA tournaments. The only women equipped with sufficient strength and length to even consider making a cut are Sorenstam and Wie. But they'll likely never be able to have a reasonable chance to win on the PGA tour: the physical requirements are too great and there are too many physically superior men [note that I didn't say "more talented"].
From 150 yards, I have no doubt that the top 20 female players could likely compete effectively with PGA players. But the only two capable of driving the 300+ yards consistently enough to reach the 150 stakes are Sorenstam and Wie. That doesn't mean Wie is BETTER than Ochoa, Creamer, Webb, or Kerr, that means she's LONGER and therefore more able to compete with men. But that length is inconsistent and sometimes a minus on the claustrophobic women's layouts, which is why she hasn't been able to win against other women. In other words, her length and skill help her be competitive against some men, but not enough to have a chance to win. And her length and inconsistency hurt her against women. She'd probably be better off being weaker and more consistent (Ochoa, Creamer) if she wants to WIN against women. If she wants to win against men, she better stick to the minor tours.
Put it this way, the men's game is a different game than the women's game, due to the premium on length and strength (rough), especially given the "Tiger-proofing" of so many PGA tournaments. The only women equipped with sufficient strength and length to even consider making a cut are Sorenstam and Wie. But they'll likely never be able to have a reasonable chance to win on the PGA tour: the physical requirements are too great and there are too many physically superior men [note that I didn't say "more talented"].
From 150 yards, I have no doubt that the top 20 female players could likely compete effectively with PGA players. But the only two capable of driving the 300+ yards consistently enough to reach the 150 stakes are Sorenstam and Wie. That doesn't mean Wie is BETTER than Ochoa, Creamer, Webb, or Kerr, that means she's LONGER and therefore more able to compete with men. But that length is inconsistent and sometimes a minus on the claustrophobic women's layouts, which is why she hasn't been able to win against other women. In other words, her length and skill help her be competitive against some men, but not enough to have a chance to win. And her length and inconsistency hurt her against women. She'd probably be better off being weaker and more consistent (Ochoa, Creamer) if she wants to WIN against women. If she wants to win against men, she better stick to the minor tours.
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2006-05-12 @ 11:52
Comment from: Paul W [Visitor]
In defense of Pressel, she did recently say about Wie, "she has the ability to do for the women’s tour what Tiger has done for the men’s tour, and that would help all of us."
I think Pressel gets it, but the subject of playing against men is something most of the LPGA players don't seem comfortable discussing. It's almost like Wie was competing in tennis as well as golf and the LPGA players were asked when they plan to try competitive tennis.
I think Pressel gets it, but the subject of playing against men is something most of the LPGA players don't seem comfortable discussing. It's almost like Wie was competing in tennis as well as golf and the LPGA players were asked when they plan to try competitive tennis.
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2006-05-12 @ 12:15
Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Talk about wanting to root for an underdog. Look at this year's results for this particular LPGA player: zero dollars in seven events; never broke par this year! Yet, she has a good chance to finally make the cut as she is 3 under after one round:
http://www.lpga.com/Greensheet.aspx?pid=496&year=2006
http://www.lpga.com/Greensheet.aspx?pid=496&year=2006
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2006-05-12 @ 13:00
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
ToddCommish: I agree that the men play a totally different game than the women and believe that Michelle Wie is caught between the two worlds. That is what makes her so special.
And to HC2, Michelle Wie's global legacy could very well be as an inspiration to those who would never even dream of playing golf, as you said about little girls in Qatar, etc. Very insightful of you!
And to HC2, Michelle Wie's global legacy could very well be as an inspiration to those who would never even dream of playing golf, as you said about little girls in Qatar, etc. Very insightful of you!
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2006-05-12 @ 13:37
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
ToddCommish: I agree that the men play a totally different game than the women and believe that Michelle Wie is caught between the two worlds. That is what makes her so special."
And to HC2, Michelle Wie's global legacy could very well be as an inspiration to those who would never even dream of playing golf, as you said about little girls in Qatar, etc. Very insightful of you!"
A woman getting a Sponsor's Exemption to play golf in an Arab country, come on guys. Women would have a better chance becoming members of Augusta National than playing a professional men's tournament in Qatar. Maybe you haven't noticed HC2 and Stacy, the LPGA has no events in the Muslim world.
Michelle is ground zero for Islamic radicals as she depicts everything hated about the West. You folks must also think Condi was there to just play golf with Michelle and let her drive the golf cart.
Amir HAMAD bin Khalifa al-Thani is choking on his Wheaties reading about this subject.
ToddCommish: I agree that the men play a totally different game than the women and believe that Michelle Wie is caught between the two worlds. That is what makes her so special."
And to HC2, Michelle Wie's global legacy could very well be as an inspiration to those who would never even dream of playing golf, as you said about little girls in Qatar, etc. Very insightful of you!"
A woman getting a Sponsor's Exemption to play golf in an Arab country, come on guys. Women would have a better chance becoming members of Augusta National than playing a professional men's tournament in Qatar. Maybe you haven't noticed HC2 and Stacy, the LPGA has no events in the Muslim world.
Michelle is ground zero for Islamic radicals as she depicts everything hated about the West. You folks must also think Condi was there to just play golf with Michelle and let her drive the golf cart.
Amir HAMAD bin Khalifa al-Thani is choking on his Wheaties reading about this subject.
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2006-05-12 @ 14:26
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Talk about wanting to root for an underdog. Look at this year's results for this particular LPGA player: zero dollars in seven events; never broke par this year! Yet, she has a good chance to finally make the cut as she is 3 under after one round:"
I'm rooting for the gal in last place who shot 15 over in the first round. If she plays really hard today she should eclipse the LPGA record for missing the cut by the most strokes.
Talk about wanting to root for an underdog. Look at this year's results for this particular LPGA player: zero dollars in seven events; never broke par this year! Yet, she has a good chance to finally make the cut as she is 3 under after one round:"
I'm rooting for the gal in last place who shot 15 over in the first round. If she plays really hard today she should eclipse the LPGA record for missing the cut by the most strokes.
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2006-05-12 @ 14:36
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Talk about wanting to root for an underdog. Look at this year's results for this particular LPGA player: zero dollars in seven events; never broke par this year! Yet, she has a good chance to finally make the cut as she is 3 under after one round:"
I'm rooting for the gal in last place who shot 15 over in the first round. If she plays really hard today she should eclipse the LPGA record for missing the cut by the most strokes.
Oh well she had a better round today and ended up at 21 under.
"Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Talk about wanting to root for an underdog. Look at this year's results for this particular LPGA player: zero dollars in seven events; never broke par this year! Yet, she has a good chance to finally make the cut as she is 3 under after one round:"
I'm rooting for the gal in last place who shot 15 over in the first round. If she plays really hard today she should eclipse the LPGA record for missing the cut by the most strokes.
Oh well she had a better round today and ended up at 21 under.
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2006-05-12 @ 14:42
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
Not all Islamic people are radicals. It's difficult right now for the average Muslim female in a foreign land to speak out but times do change. IF the ladies ever DO play golf out there, they'll have to take off their burkas!
At least for now Tiger Woods plays in Dubai...next stop for Michelle Wie?
At least for now Tiger Woods plays in Dubai...next stop for Michelle Wie?
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2006-05-12 @ 14:45
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
If Annika keeps playing as well she will miss the cut (currently tied for 75th)
Morgan made a move and shot even par today to end up in a tie for 60th for now. Hey she just might make a cut.
Lorena and Paula are heading South of the Border on the leaderboard.
The rejuvinated Karrie Webb is giving everyone golf lessons again this week. GO KARRIE!!!
Of course the public is more interested in a sixteen year old girl teeing off against the guys in Hawaii this weekend in an attempt to get into the U.S. Open.
Morgan made a move and shot even par today to end up in a tie for 60th for now. Hey she just might make a cut.
Lorena and Paula are heading South of the Border on the leaderboard.
The rejuvinated Karrie Webb is giving everyone golf lessons again this week. GO KARRIE!!!
Of course the public is more interested in a sixteen year old girl teeing off against the guys in Hawaii this weekend in an attempt to get into the U.S. Open.
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2006-05-12 @ 14:50
Comment from: Dino [Visitor]
Wie Challenge- Go to the PGA Q School and earn your card. Then there will be no question on making any cuts, but more important you have a chance to win.
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2006-05-12 @ 15:17
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
Not all Islamic people are radicals. It's difficult right now for the average Muslim female in a foreign land to speak out but times do change. IF the ladies ever DO play golf out there, they'll have to take off their burkas!
At least for now Tiger Woods plays in Dubai...next stop for Michelle Wie?
To tell you the truth I think the Muslim women are more interested in being able to drive a car, vote and avoid stoning rather than playing a round of golf.
You might ask yourself why Michelle all of a sudden has a Security Detail traveling with her right after Condi's visit and her security protocols from the host country are coordinated by DoS overseas.
Not all Islamic people are radicals. It's difficult right now for the average Muslim female in a foreign land to speak out but times do change. IF the ladies ever DO play golf out there, they'll have to take off their burkas!
At least for now Tiger Woods plays in Dubai...next stop for Michelle Wie?
To tell you the truth I think the Muslim women are more interested in being able to drive a car, vote and avoid stoning rather than playing a round of golf.
You might ask yourself why Michelle all of a sudden has a Security Detail traveling with her right after Condi's visit and her security protocols from the host country are coordinated by DoS overseas.
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2006-05-12 @ 15:33
Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
I think the 'security agent' accompanying Michelle in the fairways is a very good idea. She is such a celebrity ala Angelina Jolie that I wouldn't be surprised to see weirdos stalking her in the future.
No, I won't be one of them!
No, I won't be one of them!
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2006-05-12 @ 15:52
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
Dino---You make it sound as if Michelle could breeze through Q-school, instantly start making cuts and miraculously begin contending to win PGA Titles. The truth is that Q-school is a grueling 3 stage process with 1,000 of the best non-tour card holding players in the world. The first stage consists of four rounds at four seperate locations in which over half of the competitors will be eliminated. The second stage is another 72 holes cutting the field down to the top 150 or so and finally the final stage is 6 rounds of pure pressure with only the top 20 moving on to get their PGA tour card. This is an awful lot to expect from a teen who has never won on the LPGA tour and to date has never put together 2 solid rounds in a PGA, or Nationwide event. The one thing it seems people forget is that Michelle is not playing in a vacuum, meaning everybody always talks about how much better she is getting and while that's true, the men get better as well and not just the top males, but also the juniors/amateurs/collegiate players. She has a lot of ground to make up and they are not just sitting on the roadside waiting for her. For the record I think Michelle will make the cut in either the John Deere or the 84 Lumber, but she is still a long way from consistently making cuts at the Men's level and she is even further from ever contending in a PGA tour event as Dino suggests. Michelle Wie will probably never win on the PGA tour, but that's not really the point. The point is to follow your dreams, challenge the status quo, and try to achieve what was once thought impossible. Perhaps Michelle will open the door just enough to have somebody one day come and kick it in. If you had asked me 5 years ago if I would even be debating the possibility that a women could make a cut in a men's event I would have laughed, so maybe 5 years from now I will be watching her hoist the John Deere trophy over her head and I will laugh once again.
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2006-05-12 @ 16:19
Comment from: jon [Visitor]
Michelle is doing fine with the current path she is on: LPGA majors and other men's tours. Michelle's game as of now fits fine with the Asian Tour and the Japanese Tour. As she get longer and better, she might try the European Tour. If she further improves, then she might try the PGA and the PGA qualifying school. That is at least a year or two away, even with the most optimistic projection. It is the LPGA set up that is the problem right now. Can you imagine Tiger having to come up with a 2 Wood, because the set up is too short? As they say, people want to see the long bombs. (As Glavine/Maddux once said "chicks dig the home runs." Doesn't translate well in this context, lol)
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2006-05-12 @ 18:07
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
I agree with Jon that MW is on a good path. She should take on all challengers from any tour that she gets an exemption from and keep sharpening her skills.
Her length off the tee will help her against the guys on longer courses, but her short game will help her to win tournaments. Q-School is way down the road and I'm not sure that she would choose that option without having a few wins under her belt.
I really want to see her win an LPGA event...I think that's going to happen soon.
Her length off the tee will help her against the guys on longer courses, but her short game will help her to win tournaments. Q-School is way down the road and I'm not sure that she would choose that option without having a few wins under her belt.
I really want to see her win an LPGA event...I think that's going to happen soon.
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2006-05-12 @ 19:14
Comment from: Dino [Visitor]
Holt - That is my point. If she is that good then PGA Q school should be a breeze. But will she do it? Probably not because she won't get her card and will still count on sponsor's exemptions on the PGA Tour. Is that fair to all of the other men waiting for an opportunity to get a chance? No way. I don't doubt that Miss Wie can play with some success on the PGA Tour. But can she win? No, which is why I wonder about decisions to enter any men's PGA event when in fact at this point in her professional winless career she can't win.
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2006-05-12 @ 19:31
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Just an update from a little LPGA tournament:
Big NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!! Annika missed a cut at plus four.
Bigger NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!! Morgan made the cut in a tie for 50th place.
Biggest NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!Karrie, Cristie, Pat and Julie are going into the weekend in the top four positions without a Korean name in front of them. Talk about Old Home Week, These Gals are Rockin!
Big NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!! Annika missed a cut at plus four.
Bigger NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!! Morgan made the cut in a tie for 50th place.
Biggest NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!Karrie, Cristie, Pat and Julie are going into the weekend in the top four positions without a Korean name in front of them. Talk about Old Home Week, These Gals are Rockin!
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2006-05-12 @ 19:56
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
It is great to see Karrie and Julie beat the World Golf Hall of Fame Induction Curse and find their game again. I don't think anyone should be inducted until they are retired or dead. It just creates way to much pressure.
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2006-05-12 @ 20:07
Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
NFL, MLB, NBA etc REAL sports does wait until they retire. However, for golf, you can play until you are 90 (you don't need a contract from a team, you can extend your career as long as you wish), so if you wait until retirement, a lot will be dead before they get elected to Hall of Fame.
There isn't really a curse of Hall of Fame. It is just not easy to compete for a long time at the top level with all the young guns charging at you.
There isn't really a curse of Hall of Fame. It is just not easy to compete for a long time at the top level with all the young guns charging at you.
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2006-05-13 @ 01:58
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I think I played behind a couple of those 90 year old members this morning Jay. It was a day to work on my patience skills.
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2006-05-13 @ 07:34
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
Johnny N, Annika has missed a cut after making 68 straight. Tiger Woods missed two cuts last year after setting an all-time record for consecutive cuts made. Jim Furyk missed the cut yesterday after winning last week. All of the top pros on all the tours occasionally miss a cut. With these facts in mind, would you like to alter your prediction that Miss Wie will make EVERY cut on the LPGA tour for years to come?
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2006-05-13 @ 09:59
Comment from: hc2 [Visitor]
Man, that Michelob Ultra Open webcast is just a bunch of crap. No golf shown, two 'announcers' blabbering around in the 18th green, and a bunch of beer commercials. I'd rather watch paint dry.
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2006-05-13 @ 11:12
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Holt [Visitor] Said:
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Is she jealous of Michelle, her fame, endoresments and unlimited potential? Probably. Just like Michelle she is a child and deserves the same courtesy and respect. Many of the same people who level claims of child abuse at the likes of Chris Baldwin and others who dare criticize Michelle are on this blog attacking Morgan and her family in much the same way. I used to watch women's golf when I wanted to fall asleep or when I wanted to feel good about how far I hit the ball compared to them. Now I watch because of the high level of play and because of the names like, Sorrenstam, Wie, Creamer, Ochoa, Webb and yes even Pressel. Let's let each do it their way and sit back and enjoy.
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I agree, very much so. I love to watch Pressel, Creamer, Gulbis and all the young players putting the older players on their metal...
Makes for excellent golf.
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Is she jealous of Michelle, her fame, endoresments and unlimited potential? Probably. Just like Michelle she is a child and deserves the same courtesy and respect. Many of the same people who level claims of child abuse at the likes of Chris Baldwin and others who dare criticize Michelle are on this blog attacking Morgan and her family in much the same way. I used to watch women's golf when I wanted to fall asleep or when I wanted to feel good about how far I hit the ball compared to them. Now I watch because of the high level of play and because of the names like, Sorrenstam, Wie, Creamer, Ochoa, Webb and yes even Pressel. Let's let each do it their way and sit back and enjoy.
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I agree, very much so. I love to watch Pressel, Creamer, Gulbis and all the young players putting the older players on their metal...
Makes for excellent golf.
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2006-05-13 @ 12:55
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: ToddCommish [Visitor]
Hey, I don't think anyone disagrees with the fact that Michelle Wie is the most likely woman to be able to compete on the PGA tour. That doesn't mean that she WILL or SHOULD try.
Put it this way, the men's game is a different game than the women's game, due to the premium on length and strength (rough), especially given the "Tiger-proofing" of so many PGA tournaments. The only women equipped with sufficient strength and length to even consider making a cut are Sorenstam and Wie. But they'll likely never be able to have a reasonable chance to win on the PGA tour: the physical requirements are too great and there are too many physically superior men [note that I didn't say "more talented"].
From 150 yards, I have no doubt that the top 20 female players could likely compete effectively with PGA players. But the only two capable of driving the 300+ yards consistently enough to reach the 150 stakes are Sorenstam and Wie. That doesn't mean Wie is BETTER than Ochoa, Creamer, Webb, or Kerr, that means she's LONGER and therefore more able to compete with men. But that length is inconsistent and sometimes a minus on the claustrophobic women's layouts, which is why she hasn't been able to win against other women. In other words, her length and skill help her be competitive against some men, but not enough to have a chance to win. And her length and inconsistency hurt her against women. She'd probably be better off being weaker and more consistent (Ochoa, Creamer) if she wants to WIN against women. If she wants to win against men, she better stick to the minor tours.
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How can one supposedly rational and sane man make such idiotic statements
FIrst of all, who are you to tell her she must alter her dream of challenging the PGA because you don't think it's right? What outrageous arrogance!
If she wants to challenge the PGA then she should, if she fails, at least she tried. Have you ever tried to challenge the PGA, Could you even post a score good enough to be considered? or is that your problem, you aren't good enough, therefore no woman let alone a 16 year old girl is good enough????
Michelle, pay no attention to the dreamstealers. Let them be negative and non suppotive underachievers all their lives but don't listen to them.
The same goes for any other boy or girl, man or woman that wants to challenge the best.
Sheesh, go back to your weak little blog, Todd.
Hey, I don't think anyone disagrees with the fact that Michelle Wie is the most likely woman to be able to compete on the PGA tour. That doesn't mean that she WILL or SHOULD try.
Put it this way, the men's game is a different game than the women's game, due to the premium on length and strength (rough), especially given the "Tiger-proofing" of so many PGA tournaments. The only women equipped with sufficient strength and length to even consider making a cut are Sorenstam and Wie. But they'll likely never be able to have a reasonable chance to win on the PGA tour: the physical requirements are too great and there are too many physically superior men [note that I didn't say "more talented"].
From 150 yards, I have no doubt that the top 20 female players could likely compete effectively with PGA players. But the only two capable of driving the 300+ yards consistently enough to reach the 150 stakes are Sorenstam and Wie. That doesn't mean Wie is BETTER than Ochoa, Creamer, Webb, or Kerr, that means she's LONGER and therefore more able to compete with men. But that length is inconsistent and sometimes a minus on the claustrophobic women's layouts, which is why she hasn't been able to win against other women. In other words, her length and skill help her be competitive against some men, but not enough to have a chance to win. And her length and inconsistency hurt her against women. She'd probably be better off being weaker and more consistent (Ochoa, Creamer) if she wants to WIN against women. If she wants to win against men, she better stick to the minor tours.
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How can one supposedly rational and sane man make such idiotic statements
FIrst of all, who are you to tell her she must alter her dream of challenging the PGA because you don't think it's right? What outrageous arrogance!
If she wants to challenge the PGA then she should, if she fails, at least she tried. Have you ever tried to challenge the PGA, Could you even post a score good enough to be considered? or is that your problem, you aren't good enough, therefore no woman let alone a 16 year old girl is good enough????
Michelle, pay no attention to the dreamstealers. Let them be negative and non suppotive underachievers all their lives but don't listen to them.
The same goes for any other boy or girl, man or woman that wants to challenge the best.
Sheesh, go back to your weak little blog, Todd.
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2006-05-13 @ 13:04
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
To all those people who seem to think that MW can't realize her dreams or that anyone else is crazy to try to do the impossible, i'd invite you to read the story of this amazing young lady.
http://www.daniellefisher.com/
All it takes is the will to do it. Until the day you can no longer move, never ever stop trying to reach your summits. And never let anyone steal your dream.
http://www.daniellefisher.com/
All it takes is the will to do it. Until the day you can no longer move, never ever stop trying to reach your summits. And never let anyone steal your dream.
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2006-05-13 @ 16:56
Comment from: Wolfgang [Visitor]
Look at this excerpt from Today's Teen:
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The best part about Morgan? You'll never see her trying to get attention in front of the camera; she possesses a sort of discreet modesty out on the field and in interviews. She's never flashy and doesn't put any of her opponents down. Morgan Pressel is an exciting, intelligent teenager who demonstrates the true meaning of sportsmanship, both on, and off, the course.
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LAUGH! She never puts any of her opponenets down? SHe's very modest on the field and in interviews? She knows th true meaning of sportsmanship...DONT MAKE ME PUKE!
Here's the link:
http://lpga.com/content_1.aspx?pid=5710&mid=2
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The best part about Morgan? You'll never see her trying to get attention in front of the camera; she possesses a sort of discreet modesty out on the field and in interviews. She's never flashy and doesn't put any of her opponents down. Morgan Pressel is an exciting, intelligent teenager who demonstrates the true meaning of sportsmanship, both on, and off, the course.
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LAUGH! She never puts any of her opponenets down? SHe's very modest on the field and in interviews? She knows th true meaning of sportsmanship...DONT MAKE ME PUKE!
Here's the link:
http://lpga.com/content_1.aspx?pid=5710&mid=2
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2006-05-13 @ 17:03
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
So Morgan has made some mistakes. And she will make some more, but the media and us (the fans of golf ) continually ragging on her isn't helping. It just encourages more reporters in their quest to make news, not report it. Remember Bamberger and take a deep breath, we are much better than they are.
Well, some of us are and I do try but sometimes.. and I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
Well, some of us are and I do try but sometimes.. and I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
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2006-05-13 @ 17:35
Comment from: kimo [Visitor]
I would cut some slack for any one, like MP, whose words are quoted and come out like criticism of MW.
RE: Holt on Q-School
It's reasonable to empathize with the golfers and even the quality of the golfers. But in golf, the play is always against OLD MAN PAR. And because of that, "tricking up" or setting up the course to PGA/USGA/LPGA "standards" is the bear.
The quality of the field does set the cutline, but OLD MAN PAR is the target.
Annika, Lorena, Juli, Paula, Karrie and Kristi have shown scoring consistency with LPGA course standards. I believe MW has also shown scoring consistency with LPGA course standards.
Yes, I know--she has not won an LPGA tournament, yet. Going for the win in the Fields and the Nabisco and coming in third, gets no gold stars from the critics but "going for the win" ranks high in my book.
MW scoring at the Sony and the SK showed promise. But I'm waiting for John Deere and Lumber to see if MW can show high enough scoring consistency with PGA course standards to place in the top 10, as is her goal.
RE: Holt on Q-School
It's reasonable to empathize with the golfers and even the quality of the golfers. But in golf, the play is always against OLD MAN PAR. And because of that, "tricking up" or setting up the course to PGA/USGA/LPGA "standards" is the bear.
The quality of the field does set the cutline, but OLD MAN PAR is the target.
Annika, Lorena, Juli, Paula, Karrie and Kristi have shown scoring consistency with LPGA course standards. I believe MW has also shown scoring consistency with LPGA course standards.
Yes, I know--she has not won an LPGA tournament, yet. Going for the win in the Fields and the Nabisco and coming in third, gets no gold stars from the critics but "going for the win" ranks high in my book.
MW scoring at the Sony and the SK showed promise. But I'm waiting for John Deere and Lumber to see if MW can show high enough scoring consistency with PGA course standards to place in the top 10, as is her goal.
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2006-05-13 @ 19:01
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
Please. I would like to see Michelle Wie score in the Top 10 in a PGA event--but it is not going to happen this year. And I'm the guy who predicted last year that MW would win more than one LPGA Major this year. I'm also the guy who is not backing down on that prediction. But Top 10 in a PGA event this year? No way.
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2006-05-13 @ 20:19
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
I must agree with Jim. I'd love to see MW in the top 10 if for no other reason than to slow down her critics. (We all know they'll never shut up no matter how well she does)
It won't be this year.
If she can just win even 1 LPGA title i'd be happy but 2 would be fabulous.
It won't be this year.
If she can just win even 1 LPGA title i'd be happy but 2 would be fabulous.
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2006-05-13 @ 20:52
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I'm pulling for Michelle to qualify for the U.S. Open this year. She missed the cut by four strokes last year and her game looks to be much better this season.
The changes I've noticed are her improvements in Course Management and Putting.
The Pros when they walk a course pick out holes that are birdie chances and the ones that bogey is a good score. Sometimes taking a bogey is a smart play when you avoid something worse.
Last year Michelle didn't play this way and tried to go for it everytime. It still happens now and then, but she has minimized her errors in judgement.
If Michelle earns the opportunity to step onto the first tee at Winged Foot her place in the history of golf is cemented.
The changes I've noticed are her improvements in Course Management and Putting.
The Pros when they walk a course pick out holes that are birdie chances and the ones that bogey is a good score. Sometimes taking a bogey is a smart play when you avoid something worse.
Last year Michelle didn't play this way and tried to go for it everytime. It still happens now and then, but she has minimized her errors in judgement.
If Michelle earns the opportunity to step onto the first tee at Winged Foot her place in the history of golf is cemented.
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2006-05-14 @ 03:08
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
Putt4par says that he would be deliriously happy if Bubbles wins even one LPGA event this year. No kidding! Really? Do you mean to tell me that you, as the consummate Wie-wee, would celebrate if Miss Wie gets that elusive victory? Well, who'd a thunk it! p4p, you guys are ecstatic when she misses a cut!
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2006-05-14 @ 08:42
Comment from: hc2 [Visitor]
One Putt,
Yu Ping Lin (the gal that had zero earnings this year after 8 events, shot a 67 in the 3rd round! I am still pulling for her. Weird in that she had never broke par this year, and now has had rounds of 68, 74, 67. I'm sure she's in debt up to her ears.
Yu Ping Lin (the gal that had zero earnings this year after 8 events, shot a 67 in the 3rd round! I am still pulling for her. Weird in that she had never broke par this year, and now has had rounds of 68, 74, 67. I'm sure she's in debt up to her ears.
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2006-05-14 @ 10:15
Comment from: John Neal [Visitor]
Yu Ping Lin has struggled the last couple of years, however she has career winnings of $806,000. I doubt that she is too greatly in debt.
It is good to see her tied fifth after three. While she missed every cut this year, her low round prior to this tournament was 72, yet her year to date average is 73.88. So she has played very consistently at just off of par pace. Usually a sign that one little thing needs to be fixed to become a contender.
This week's scores suggest she may have found that one-little-thing whatever it was.
It is good to see her tied fifth after three. While she missed every cut this year, her low round prior to this tournament was 72, yet her year to date average is 73.88. So she has played very consistently at just off of par pace. Usually a sign that one little thing needs to be fixed to become a contender.
This week's scores suggest she may have found that one-little-thing whatever it was.
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2006-05-14 @ 11:45
Comment from: Maggy [Visitor]
I wonder if Ms.Bigmouth er, Pressel will keep her yap shut after her LESS than stellar performance this weekend. OOHH, tied for 42nd at 5 over. She had better not have the gall to critize anyone again. Perhaps she should have remained an amateur so she can play against the little girls and be a hero.
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2006-05-14 @ 16:20
Comment from: calgolfer [Visitor]
Damn MAggy, you beat me to it! Guess chubsy aka pretzel learning to win as amateur isn't helping her as a pro.
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2006-05-14 @ 19:53
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Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
Putt4par says that he would be deliriously happy if Bubbles wins even one LPGA event this year. No kidding! Really? Do you mean to tell me that you, as the consummate Wie-wee, would celebrate if Miss Wie gets that elusive victory? Well, who'd a thunk it! p4p, you guys are ecstatic when she misses a cut!
2006-05-14 @ 08:42
*sigh* Alex, you simpleton, you can't even quote honestly. Why not just go somewhere dark, like under a rock and stay out of the sunlight. It's obviously fried what few brain cells that you may ever have had.
Best of all, just go away. I'll bet even Baldie laughs at your incompetence.
Hey Mrs. Alex, come and get your ward and tie him up in his room again!!
Putt4par says that he would be deliriously happy if Bubbles wins even one LPGA event this year. No kidding! Really? Do you mean to tell me that you, as the consummate Wie-wee, would celebrate if Miss Wie gets that elusive victory? Well, who'd a thunk it! p4p, you guys are ecstatic when she misses a cut!
2006-05-14 @ 08:42
*sigh* Alex, you simpleton, you can't even quote honestly. Why not just go somewhere dark, like under a rock and stay out of the sunlight. It's obviously fried what few brain cells that you may ever have had.
Best of all, just go away. I'll bet even Baldie laughs at your incompetence.
Hey Mrs. Alex, come and get your ward and tie him up in his room again!!
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2006-05-14 @ 20:39
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I guess the folks at Pinehurst know what is up:
[May 14, 2006]
community sports bulletin board
(Sun Journal (New Bern, NC)(KRT) Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge) May 14--To submit a community sports announcement, send information as you would like it to appear in the newspaper to: Sun Journal Sports, 3200 Wellons Blvd., New Bern, NC 28562
-- The emergence of female golf superstars Michelle Wie, Annika Sorenstam and others has fueled a rapid 52 percent rise in the number of women playing golf since 1998. To proliferate this trend, America's most revered golf resort -- Pinehurst -- has announced plans to provide a week-long series of golf and golf-related activities exclusively for women.
Now ain't that something a 52 percent increase in women golfers. Nike knows this is just the "Tip of the Iceberg".
[May 14, 2006]
community sports bulletin board
(Sun Journal (New Bern, NC)(KRT) Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge) May 14--To submit a community sports announcement, send information as you would like it to appear in the newspaper to: Sun Journal Sports, 3200 Wellons Blvd., New Bern, NC 28562
-- The emergence of female golf superstars Michelle Wie, Annika Sorenstam and others has fueled a rapid 52 percent rise in the number of women playing golf since 1998. To proliferate this trend, America's most revered golf resort -- Pinehurst -- has announced plans to provide a week-long series of golf and golf-related activities exclusively for women.
Now ain't that something a 52 percent increase in women golfers. Nike knows this is just the "Tip of the Iceberg".
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2006-05-15 @ 03:15
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
putt4par, There you go again with the personal insults. To you Wie Warriors, one must drink deeply of the Koolaid or else he has no brain cells and is a simpleton. p4p, this is only a message board. Chris Baldwin must be happy with all the venom you Wie-wee's are spewing. You folks have morphed into a sort of Wie cult. I'll really enjoy the madness on this board when Bubbles actually wins one.
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2006-05-15 @ 08:55
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
I started golfing in 2000. There was no Michelle Wie back then and I honestly didn't know a thing about women's golf (or it's players) except that I THOUGHT it was boring.
Five years later I'm glad to see that my perspective has changed.
Five years later I'm glad to see that my perspective has changed.
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2006-05-15 @ 09:11
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
Maggy--Morgan was a little girl herself when she, "played with the little girls". In fact she still is a little girl and calling her bigmouth and chubsy as calgolfer refered to her is childish and actually quite mean in the case of the latter insult. This behavior is actually typical of Wie fans who want their shining star to be treated with kid gloves and rabidly attack anyone who dares comment on her decision making, game, results or earrings, yet have no problem calling another player chubsy. When Michelle is criticized cries of racsim and child abuse are soon to follow. I guess because Pressel has blond hair and blue eyes and comes from money she's fair game.
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2006-05-15 @ 09:48
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
I don't see Morgan Pressel as "chubsy". Outspoken perhaps, but I just saw her in a clothing ad and she looks great.
Unfortunately everyone in the public eye is "fair game". Remember when Tiger Woods' game was below par? What was everyone saying then? And now that Annika Sorenstam is in a bit of a slump (she only won one event so far) the "old age" comments are flying!
Unfortunately everyone in the public eye is "fair game". Remember when Tiger Woods' game was below par? What was everyone saying then? And now that Annika Sorenstam is in a bit of a slump (she only won one event so far) the "old age" comments are flying!
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2006-05-15 @ 11:09
Comment from: Maggy [Visitor]
Holt - How can you defend Pressel?? She brings all this on herself by talking trash about various players. If she would concentrate on her own game instead of blabbering on about others perhaps people wouldn't resent her so much. I guess it's the only way she can get attention. Coming from "money" isn't helping her game is it? She has to stop being so jealous and green with envy at (you know who) and stop being a cry baby and maybe she can get her game together.
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2006-05-15 @ 13:21
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
I defend Morgan Pressel, because she is a child and as children are apt to do she sometimes does and says the wrong thing. I actually find Morgan entertaining and refreshing in this age of robotic athletes and politically correct non-answers to routine questions. I agree with you that she opens her game up to scrutiny by critcizing others, but her comments do not make her fodder for do-nothing internet geeks to call her a fat crybaby when they disagree with her.
On a seperate note I saw Michelle Wie was not only given an exemption to the Women's U.S. Open, but also to the European tour's Omega Masters. I wonder why Morgan and many others in the golf world(not just the LPGA) are a little bitter and jealous of Michelle. She was let into the women's open based on where she "would" be on the money list if she were a member of the LPGA tour and eligible for the money list. The only problem is that she is not on the official money list because she is not a member. If's and But's are like candy and nuts. My grandfather used to like this saying and it never really made sense to me until now. As far as the European Tour event goes, well lets just say Omega isn't handing her money and watches to sit out of tournaments they sponser. Not qualified to play on the European tour, who cares, more publicity for our company. Michelle is a great talent and she should have a fine career, but she does get things handed to her on a silver platter and probably always will as long as she makes a couple of cuts and god forbid actually wins a tournament.
On a seperate note I saw Michelle Wie was not only given an exemption to the Women's U.S. Open, but also to the European tour's Omega Masters. I wonder why Morgan and many others in the golf world(not just the LPGA) are a little bitter and jealous of Michelle. She was let into the women's open based on where she "would" be on the money list if she were a member of the LPGA tour and eligible for the money list. The only problem is that she is not on the official money list because she is not a member. If's and But's are like candy and nuts. My grandfather used to like this saying and it never really made sense to me until now. As far as the European Tour event goes, well lets just say Omega isn't handing her money and watches to sit out of tournaments they sponser. Not qualified to play on the European tour, who cares, more publicity for our company. Michelle is a great talent and she should have a fine career, but she does get things handed to her on a silver platter and probably always will as long as she makes a couple of cuts and god forbid actually wins a tournament.
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2006-05-15 @ 14:48
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
The LPGA (Ms. Bivens) encourages Morgan to speak her mind in an effort to breed controversy and publicity for the tour. The press is a willing partner in this effort by "asking the right trigger questions".
I respect golf for the courtesy displayed and fair play we show each other. What other sport exists where you call a penalty on yourself or disqualify yourself from play. Paula Creamer showed real character when she took a DQ last season after discovering an extra club in her bag.
We shake hands when we start and finish a match no matter what the outcome. We wait our turn to hit or putt and remain still/quiet out of courtesy to the other players.
When Michelle is asked a question about another player she deftly deflects the question and moves on. Morgan still has to learn how to do this.
I respect golf for the courtesy displayed and fair play we show each other. What other sport exists where you call a penalty on yourself or disqualify yourself from play. Paula Creamer showed real character when she took a DQ last season after discovering an extra club in her bag.
We shake hands when we start and finish a match no matter what the outcome. We wait our turn to hit or putt and remain still/quiet out of courtesy to the other players.
When Michelle is asked a question about another player she deftly deflects the question and moves on. Morgan still has to learn how to do this.
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2006-05-15 @ 14:49
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Holt I would say Michelle has "made a couple of cuts". The last time she missed an LPGA cut line was once when she was thirteen years old. As a twelve year old she missed three cuts by an average of three strokes.
From 2005 to the present Michelle has averaged over $90,000 per event in potential or real earnings. Only Annika has a higher earning average on the LPGA tour and she is rated as the Rolex number one player. That is why Michelle when she has enough events ends up at number two on Omega's rival's list.
The USGA decides the requirements for their tournament, not the LPGA.
From 2005 to the present Michelle has averaged over $90,000 per event in potential or real earnings. Only Annika has a higher earning average on the LPGA tour and she is rated as the Rolex number one player. That is why Michelle when she has enough events ends up at number two on Omega's rival's list.
The USGA decides the requirements for their tournament, not the LPGA.
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2006-05-15 @ 15:13
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
Well, now I believe I've heard it all. Michelle has now mastered the art of diplomacy. She alone of all the 16 year old girls on Planet Earth has learned how to "deftly deflect the question and move on." The Wie boot licking gets better each day. Or maybe it's worse each day. One-Putt, have you got any more beauties like that?
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2006-05-15 @ 15:30
Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Pressel reminds me of Pat Hurst; and that is actually a compliment. She has the danger of looking like Becky Iverson if she does not watch her diet. But we musn't forget that it's never too late to do a makeover. Look at Christie Kerr, she was chubby before, and now is a hot trim babe.
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2006-05-15 @ 16:04
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
One-Putt I meant men's tournament cuts. I believe she will have to make some cuts on the PGA tour eventually to continue to get the sponsers exemptions. Same goes for the European and Nationwide tour. The Asian tour and Korean Tour would likely invite her if she had one arm, so I don't think results will ever matter there. I firmly believe she will accomplish her goal of making cuts in the future, but she is not there yet and I was only pointing out a possible reason for the percieved jealously and cattiness from the other women. HC2, sadly your line of thinking is what drives young women to starve themselves and undergo unnecessary cosmetic surgery. Morgan Pressel is 17, good God! You shouldn't be commenting on her appearence anyway, but suggesting it's not too late for a makeover to a child, that's pretty sad and creepy. Let's try to stick to the golf games of these young women not their physical appearence. At least Christie Kerr is of age, so I'll grant you she is pretty hot.
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2006-05-15 @ 16:22
Comment from: Otis [Visitor]
Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Pressel reminds me of Pat Hurst; and that is actually a compliment. She has the danger of looking like Becky Iverson if she does not watch her diet. But we musn't forget that it's never too late to do a makeover. Look at Christie Kerr, she was chubby before, and now is a hot trim babe.
I read Pressel only eats junk food like Lucky Charms, Spagetti O's and the likes of that. No veggies or anyhting that might do a body some good. She does look like a wrestler already, especially in those wide striped shirts.
Pressel reminds me of Pat Hurst; and that is actually a compliment. She has the danger of looking like Becky Iverson if she does not watch her diet. But we musn't forget that it's never too late to do a makeover. Look at Christie Kerr, she was chubby before, and now is a hot trim babe.
I read Pressel only eats junk food like Lucky Charms, Spagetti O's and the likes of that. No veggies or anyhting that might do a body some good. She does look like a wrestler already, especially in those wide striped shirts.
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2006-05-15 @ 16:51
Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
I don't really want to get into this debate, but Holt, you are really testing me. BTW, isn't Morgan going to be 18 in a week or so. She will no longer be a minor, but an adult in a legal sense. I think Morgan knows what she is doing, and I question her intent. I draw the line when someone is lying such as saying that there are many girls who could make the cut in a men's event. I also wonder what Callaway had in mind when they signed Pressel to a contract: make headlines by trash talking and not by her golfing performance?
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2006-05-15 @ 17:24
Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Callaway was probably thinking that they could get a bit of the Paula Creamer/Michelle Wie/Sorenstam action through Morgan. I don't think Morgan belongs in the category of players that actually enhance a company's brand image. I am sure Morgan's second place in the US Open; and winning the Women's amateur had Callaway convinced that Morgan was the next 'it' girl. So far she hasn't panned out too well, and it has actually backfired, because I don't see Callaway's image being enhanced through Pressel's trashtalking and full out crying.
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2006-05-15 @ 18:09
Comment from: Otis [Visitor]
When is everyone going to start ragging on Pressel for not having won a tournament? They sure have no problem going on and on about MW not having won yet even though she is only 16!! Pressel figured she would turn pro and then proceed to win everything and she has yet to be even in the hunt. And missing a cut already.Shame, shame, shame. I'll bet she is going to burn out quickly because she will expend all energy on condemning others and whining about what they are or aren't doing. Maybe Gramps should teach the "child" a lesson or two???? What he is doing now will not help her future.
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2006-05-15 @ 18:35
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Tsk, tsk Alex. Imagine that, another scolding from you. If you just ever made comments without all the stupid little zingers and the one shot little put downs, no one would bother with you. You remind me of george. Just have to vent your spleen and then blame others when they tell you to get stuffed. Now go away, you are just a bothersome nat.
By the way, MW is at -1 on the 14th hole of the qualifier. No idea what anyne else has done. That's all thats been posted so far.
By the way, MW is at -1 on the 14th hole of the qualifier. No idea what anyne else has done. That's all thats been posted so far.
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2006-05-15 @ 19:23
Comment from: hc2 [Visitor]
It's official; Michelle Wie has advanced to the US Open sectionals. See you all then.
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2006-05-15 @ 21:44
Comment from: david [Visitor] · http://david
I hope she makes it through the qualifying round and make it the US Open. Can you imagine what this will do
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2006-05-15 @ 22:01
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
Well, now I believe I've heard it all. Michelle has now mastered the art of diplomacy. She alone of all the 16 year old girls on Planet Earth has learned how to "deftly deflect the question and move on." The Wie boot licking gets better each day. Or maybe it's worse each day. One-Putt, have you got any more beauties like that?
You really should go and take some lessons from Michelle. She could teach you a lot, mostly how to keep your mouth shut in fly season. Hey little toad, put your sticky little tongue out and taste this.
Oh you missed that? See, you learn little one. MW would have told you to "keep mouth closed and be thought a fool rather than open trap and remove all doubt"
Good old asian proverb that.
Well, now I believe I've heard it all. Michelle has now mastered the art of diplomacy. She alone of all the 16 year old girls on Planet Earth has learned how to "deftly deflect the question and move on." The Wie boot licking gets better each day. Or maybe it's worse each day. One-Putt, have you got any more beauties like that?
You really should go and take some lessons from Michelle. She could teach you a lot, mostly how to keep your mouth shut in fly season. Hey little toad, put your sticky little tongue out and taste this.
Oh you missed that? See, you learn little one. MW would have told you to "keep mouth closed and be thought a fool rather than open trap and remove all doubt"
Good old asian proverb that.
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2006-05-15 @ 22:29
Comment from: kimo [Visitor]
MW 72
Joe Phengsavath 73
Regan Lee 74
Tad Fujikawa 74
Chan Kim 74
MW medalist, 3 pos for Hawaii so Joe is also qualifier.
Lee, Fujikawa and Kim had a play off, two were alternates.
Would have liked to see her iron play.
Joe Phengsavath 73
Regan Lee 74
Tad Fujikawa 74
Chan Kim 74
MW medalist, 3 pos for Hawaii so Joe is also qualifier.
Lee, Fujikawa and Kim had a play off, two were alternates.
Would have liked to see her iron play.
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2006-05-15 @ 22:36
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I believe Alex has finally spazzed out after Michelle WON her first MEN'S Tournament. Hopefully we won't find him walking barefoot at busy intersections screaming the name Bubbles. You're losing it man!
I hope the term Spazzed will not offend my Euro friends here.
I hope the term Spazzed will not offend my Euro friends here.
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2006-05-16 @ 02:58
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
Hey everyone, great news! Michelle Wie has now won the men's U.S. Open 1st stage qualfier and has an exemption into the women's US Open.
Wie could win BOTH majors this year!
Wie could win BOTH majors this year!
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2006-05-16 @ 09:21
Comment from: Otis [Visitor]
So Wie WON the men's qualifier. What will Bigmouth have to say about that? "Oh, any of us girls could do that, but we don't want to." HA what a joke.
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2006-05-16 @ 11:26
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
I've read all the literature on the US Open Golf Championship. Nowhere in the information there or on their website is the tournament referred to as the "US Men's Open." Now that Miss Wie has entered the tournament (yet again) and qualified for the sectionals, maybe it would be a good idea for you Wie nuts to refer to that event by its proper name.
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2006-05-16 @ 11:30
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
Hey everyone, great news! Michelle Wie has now won the men's U.S. Open 1st stage qualfier and has an exemption into the women's US Open.
Wie could win BOTH majors this year!
Hahaha. I love to dream big Sracy and it is in the realm of possiblity but i'd say the chances of winning the game at the SU (mens?) Open are pretty slim. As for winning the womens, I like er chances there and would that set the old biddies in the LPGA on fire.
Bivens would have a coronary or apoplectic fit trying to get the most benefit from it without paying any price.
It owuld be so much fun to see though, lol.
Hey everyone, great news! Michelle Wie has now won the men's U.S. Open 1st stage qualfier and has an exemption into the women's US Open.
Wie could win BOTH majors this year!
Hahaha. I love to dream big Sracy and it is in the realm of possiblity but i'd say the chances of winning the game at the SU (mens?) Open are pretty slim. As for winning the womens, I like er chances there and would that set the old biddies in the LPGA on fire.
Bivens would have a coronary or apoplectic fit trying to get the most benefit from it without paying any price.
It owuld be so much fun to see though, lol.
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2006-05-16 @ 13:00
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
For Alex SU = US. and there are a few fast fingers misses there too, Alex.
Sracy=Stacy. Fast finger slip again, lol. Sorry Stacy.
Sracy=Stacy. Fast finger slip again, lol. Sorry Stacy.
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2006-05-16 @ 13:02
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
I agree with putt4par that Michelle Wie doesn't need the LPGA...it needs her! Even with the new advertising campaign, "These Girls Rock", it rocks more when she's in the field.
I'll bet the Sybase Classic will be much emptier next week, even with Sorenstam taking center stage.
And, as far as MW choosing her own career, she still is just 16. I remember when I was that age and your parents still have alot of input, no matter what is said to the press, etc.
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I;m not so sure aboutMichelle making her own choices.
Have you watched closely when she and Daddy are together? When you talks to her, if she doesn' like what he says, she glares at him and he meekly walks away to join Bo on the side lines.
Anyone as strong willed and focused as MW is would not be prepared to give up control of where she is going or what she was doing, even for Dad.
I am of the firm belief that she is fully in control of her decisions. Just from watching her body language when she is being interviewed, she never looks to Dad to get approval for anything she says, her sataements are her own.
just my $.02 worth of point of view.
I agree with putt4par that Michelle Wie doesn't need the LPGA...it needs her! Even with the new advertising campaign, "These Girls Rock", it rocks more when she's in the field.
I'll bet the Sybase Classic will be much emptier next week, even with Sorenstam taking center stage.
And, as far as MW choosing her own career, she still is just 16. I remember when I was that age and your parents still have alot of input, no matter what is said to the press, etc.
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I;m not so sure aboutMichelle making her own choices.
Have you watched closely when she and Daddy are together? When you talks to her, if she doesn' like what he says, she glares at him and he meekly walks away to join Bo on the side lines.
Anyone as strong willed and focused as MW is would not be prepared to give up control of where she is going or what she was doing, even for Dad.
I am of the firm belief that she is fully in control of her decisions. Just from watching her body language when she is being interviewed, she never looks to Dad to get approval for anything she says, her sataements are her own.
just my $.02 worth of point of view.
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2006-05-16 @ 13:12
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
I don't think anyone would disagree that Pressel is just jealous of Michelle Wie . What I don't understand is why it is so EASY for the media to bait Morgan. Just mention Michelle and she goes off on a tirade against her. Pressel can't be that dense! Doesn't she know she's being used to get some juicy headlines? Maybe its the only way she can get in the papers given her mediocre play the past month.
In any case after her missed cut last week and her 45th place finish this week --Pressel needs to concentrate less on Michelle and more on her game.
In any case after her missed cut last week and her 45th place finish this week --Pressel needs to concentrate less on Michelle and more on her game.
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2006-05-16 @ 14:54
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Morgan has really been upset with Michelle since the US Women's Open last year. After Birdie Kim chipped in to win the match, Michelle was the first one to hug and congratulate Birdie on her victory. Meanwhile Morgan was having another emotional breakdown. I don't think Morgan likes Koreans very much at all.
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2006-05-16 @ 15:14
Comment from: fda [Visitor]
i would be really upset if michelle wie joined the lpga tour--ever. i think she shouldn't join ANY tours, rack up the wins at lpga events, and continue her magical quest against the men. just watching her get seven birdies in a pgatour round last year was really unbelievable, and she's 16. i look forward to watching her dominate the lpga tour without being a member and fight the impossible fight against the men for the next 30years.
we are witnessing history before us in this six foot girl. add a few pounds of muscle on her and she'll be hitting 350yd drives!
we are witnessing history before us in this six foot girl. add a few pounds of muscle on her and she'll be hitting 350yd drives!
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2006-05-16 @ 20:24
Comment from: lm [Visitor]
As a fan of all sports, there are many things that we can agree on and disagree on, but this much is a truth: Women's sports have found it so hard to even get have the coverage as men, to get money even close to the men, and people to follow them. Michelle Wie finally has gotten not only both genders to follow women's sports, to talk about women's sports, and to buy tickets, but other countries as well. Woman have always been known to be emotional, petty, and jealous. At a time now in history when the whole world is watching Ms. Wie and everyone else, don't you think we would serve ourselves better if we didn't act jealous, say things that make us look stupid, and try to think about the betterment of women's sports? MW is 16, and she has accomplished things far beyond her years. Just look to horse racing. Horses can win every race, or half their races, make millions by stud fees, yet they may never win the Derby, Preakness, or Belmont. They are only 3 yrs old :) Give MW time, and she will not let anyone down. Her entry into all these diffent venues will make her a much more dominating force in the future as she will have played all types of courses, all types of players, and that will make her better and stronger. Most women will never be good enough to hit and stay up with the men, let's see if she can. She has a lot to learn, but she can also teach us a few things.
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2006-05-17 @ 00:34
Comment from: hc2 [Visitor]
My guess is that sadly all women' sports, including women's golf will take a downturn for the next several years. For Michelle, she can become a legend on her own by winning a LPGA major or making a men's PGA cut. She will not benefit from a resurgence of fan interest in golf since the trend is down after Tiger's slam in 2000-2001.
The future of women's golf although definitely having an enhanced product with some new young faces, will remain as being little noticed. Just look at women's soccer, it had great young talent; yet the league was not viable. I am not saying women's golf will disappear. I am saying it will not grow as much as many anticipate. At best it will stagnate, and so will corporate money. CBS sports refusing to renew their LPGA coverage is a good indicator of things to come.
The future of women's golf although definitely having an enhanced product with some new young faces, will remain as being little noticed. Just look at women's soccer, it had great young talent; yet the league was not viable. I am not saying women's golf will disappear. I am saying it will not grow as much as many anticipate. At best it will stagnate, and so will corporate money. CBS sports refusing to renew their LPGA coverage is a good indicator of things to come.
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2006-05-17 @ 06:50
Comment from: Stacy [Visitor] · http://www.worldgolf.com/blogs/golf-for-beginners
Right now MW is doing great by NOT joining any tour and going "solo". If I were MW I wouldn't want to be attached to any tour at this point.
And HC2, you mean that great new slogan "These Girls Rock" had no effect on CBS Sports renewing their contract with the LPGA?
And HC2, you mean that great new slogan "These Girls Rock" had no effect on CBS Sports renewing their contract with the LPGA?
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2006-05-17 @ 09:57
Comment from: hc2 [Visitor]
Stacy,
I meant the CBS did not sign up to cover the Kraft Nabisco: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/golf/267146_golf19.html
Also, recall that ABC will stop featuring golf altogether after vthis year, with the exception of the british open.
So, why all this gloom and doom? The story starts with 2000 and 2001, and how all the networks got suckered into a money losing deal with the pga tour. At that time golf was huge with Tiger and his dominating play, and his four consecutive majors. Then, the economy went into a recession, and Tiger got into a slump.
Without Tiger in contention, people stopped watching, which meant huge losses for the broadcasters. Consider now that Tiger has stopped playing after his father's death and you can bet all of those tournaments he skipped are bleeding money like crazy. LPGA golf's only hope of course is to get some viewers who watch the men's tour. At my office,
out of a staff of 700 noone that I know of follows lpGA golf.
Not even the golf fans, sports fans and active golfers. All they can recall is a blip in the daily sports show e it Michelle Wie or Annika. If I were an investor, IU would put my money on nascar, college hoops and colege football, and nfl if I'm in the US, and soccer if the market is aboad.
Today is a huge day for international soccer by the way, with the champions league final in espn2: Barcelona vs. Arsenal. Ratings will go through the roof worldwide. Along with the world cup,this match is the equivalent of the superbowl.
I meant the CBS did not sign up to cover the Kraft Nabisco: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/golf/267146_golf19.html
Also, recall that ABC will stop featuring golf altogether after vthis year, with the exception of the british open.
So, why all this gloom and doom? The story starts with 2000 and 2001, and how all the networks got suckered into a money losing deal with the pga tour. At that time golf was huge with Tiger and his dominating play, and his four consecutive majors. Then, the economy went into a recession, and Tiger got into a slump.
Without Tiger in contention, people stopped watching, which meant huge losses for the broadcasters. Consider now that Tiger has stopped playing after his father's death and you can bet all of those tournaments he skipped are bleeding money like crazy. LPGA golf's only hope of course is to get some viewers who watch the men's tour. At my office,
out of a staff of 700 noone that I know of follows lpGA golf.
Not even the golf fans, sports fans and active golfers. All they can recall is a blip in the daily sports show e it Michelle Wie or Annika. If I were an investor, IU would put my money on nascar, college hoops and colege football, and nfl if I'm in the US, and soccer if the market is aboad.
Today is a huge day for international soccer by the way, with the champions league final in espn2: Barcelona vs. Arsenal. Ratings will go through the roof worldwide. Along with the world cup,this match is the equivalent of the superbowl.
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2006-05-17 @ 11:17
Comment from: Ty [Visitor]
Michelle Wie will never be a factor on the PGA Tour. She probably will never even dominate the LPGA Tour, she has thus far not shown the ability to win at that or any other level. Making it through a local qualifier is an impressive feat for a 16 year old girl, but let's keep things in perspective. She beat 40 local golfers from Hawaii, in the weakest of all the local qualifier sites. A fifteen year-old freshman in high school also made it to sectionals and Wie was not the only girl to compete Carmen Baeda a fifteen year-old shot 80. Michelle should be congratulated for her accomplishment, but the competition was extremely weak and this will not be the case in New Jersey next month. When she makes it through the sectional I will be truly impressed.
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2006-05-17 @ 11:42
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
Ty, As we speak, the Wie-nuts are getting out the napalm and the flamethrowers. You will get nowhere with these guys by resorting to common sense and reality. Several of these characters are actually dreaming of Bubbles finishing in the top eight at Winged Foot and getting an automatic invitation to next year's Masters.
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2006-05-17 @ 13:03
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
I just read an article from last Friday's online The Star in which Morgan Pressel's comments are quoted. Teen prodigy Morgan Pressel has no desire to folow Wie down PGA path. The article opens with "Morgan Pressel has made the most of an early entry onto the LPGA Tour..."
This was written after she missed a cut the previous week, and just shot a 74 in the opening round at the Micelob. By any reasonable standards her performance this year has been disappointing considering what she did on the LPGA last year. But she was given a friendly write-up. I would imagine that this type of friendly write-uo is quite common in sports. So why do so many people get upset when Wie's supporters put a positive spin on her achievements. At least Wie's supporters aren't claiming she is doing great in a year when her performances have declined.
This was written after she missed a cut the previous week, and just shot a 74 in the opening round at the Micelob. By any reasonable standards her performance this year has been disappointing considering what she did on the LPGA last year. But she was given a friendly write-up. I would imagine that this type of friendly write-uo is quite common in sports. So why do so many people get upset when Wie's supporters put a positive spin on her achievements. At least Wie's supporters aren't claiming she is doing great in a year when her performances have declined.
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2006-05-17 @ 14:11
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Comment from: Ty [Visitor]
Michelle Wie will never be a factor on the PGA Tour. She probably will never even dominate the LPGA Tour, she has thus far not shown the ability to win at that or any other level.
So Ty can you get over not making the cut at the SK Open. Remember Ty the Doctor told you to stay away from blogging.
Michelle Wie will never be a factor on the PGA Tour. She probably will never even dominate the LPGA Tour, she has thus far not shown the ability to win at that or any other level.
So Ty can you get over not making the cut at the SK Open. Remember Ty the Doctor told you to stay away from blogging.
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2006-05-17 @ 14:26
Comment from: Jane [Visitor]
I completely agree with the previous poster's comments. Why are so many negativity when Wie is doing better and better? The excitement from Wie's supporters is in part due to the fact that Wie has a lot of detractors and Wie is proving them wrong by winning the local quilifier. It's even more ridiculous that men get jealous of Wie's entry into men's events by exemption (see reports of Michael Campbell's reactions to Wie's exemptions). The idea that Wie is somehow depriving some poor guys who couldn't make to the events on their own performance is just ludicrous. If they could draw the crowd that Wie can, then they would have been exempted as well. So a pretty girl who has exceptional talent gets more attention, so what? Have you been around in the reall world? At least she has talent to back up her look? I find Campbell's comments uncalled for and patrionizing of women's sport. I could just puke at the following comment:
"Look at Annika Sorenstam, one of the best tournament golfers we've ever seen. She deserved to play on the men's tour in the U.S. Unfortunately she didn't make the cut."
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2006-05-17 @ 14:35
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
When Michelle is in the field of a PGA or LPGA event attendance is up an average of 25 to 35 percent. When Michelle missed the cut at the Sony earlier this year, viewership dropped 74 percent over the weekend and attendance dropped 50 percent from Friday to Saturday. When Michelle is in the field revenue increases for any tour at any event while she is playing.
When you study the demographics of who the extra fans watching or attending these events are, we find the majority are Fathers/Mothers and their Daughters who may have never played golf themselves or attended any amateur or professional golf events before. This next statistic will floor most people and tell you why Nike is in the mix.
The week after Michelle plays in a nationally televised event, sales of womens/girls golf equipment and apparel increases an average of 3 to 5 percent in those areas where the event is broadcast. This spike lasts for about ten days after the event.
When you study the demographics of who the extra fans watching or attending these events are, we find the majority are Fathers/Mothers and their Daughters who may have never played golf themselves or attended any amateur or professional golf events before. This next statistic will floor most people and tell you why Nike is in the mix.
The week after Michelle plays in a nationally televised event, sales of womens/girls golf equipment and apparel increases an average of 3 to 5 percent in those areas where the event is broadcast. This spike lasts for about ten days after the event.
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2006-05-17 @ 14:56
Comment from: Jane [Visitor]
The problem with someone like Campbell is that he understands how to play gold but doesn't understand why he can make a living out of it. Without the support of big businesses he can play golf all day and can't bring home a penny. Is it really rocket science that the likes of Campbells just can't understand? Why shouldn't big businesses jump at the opportunity of making more money by giving Wie exemptions? Why should Wie be blamed for how the world works?
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2006-05-17 @ 15:48
Comment from: Jimbo [Visitor]
Without Wie and Tiger and Daly, NO ONE would watch golf.
Would you watch a amthc play between Kirk Triplett and Ben "All Day" Crane? How about Brittany Lang versus Pay Hurst?
Even if for the WOrld Mathcplay Championship?
All fine players, but viewers would drop to around 0.1 share.
The stars create reevnue. Any moron who has taken elementary school arithmetic can see that the stars drive the numbers and everyone else is free-riding.
Right now, the LPGA should be giving MW full LPGA membership and LPGA players should be tahnking her for the amount of new money that will soon flood to the LPGA.
If MW were to completely avoid the LPGA, sposors will seek her out and rightfully bail on the LPGA. Then let's see who plays for love and charity!!!
Would you watch a amthc play between Kirk Triplett and Ben "All Day" Crane? How about Brittany Lang versus Pay Hurst?
Even if for the WOrld Mathcplay Championship?
All fine players, but viewers would drop to around 0.1 share.
The stars create reevnue. Any moron who has taken elementary school arithmetic can see that the stars drive the numbers and everyone else is free-riding.
Right now, the LPGA should be giving MW full LPGA membership and LPGA players should be tahnking her for the amount of new money that will soon flood to the LPGA.
If MW were to completely avoid the LPGA, sposors will seek her out and rightfully bail on the LPGA. Then let's see who plays for love and charity!!!
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2006-05-17 @ 18:34
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
Ty, Well, there you are. Just a few samples of words of wisdom from the Wie cult. Now Michael Campbell, the reigning US Open champion,is scorned by the Wie nuts and is referred to demeaningly as "the likes of Campbell." He made the fatal mistake of saying something not completely complimentary about their darling. demeaningly
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2006-05-17 @ 20:12
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Who was publishing much of anything about Campbell before he commented on Michelle Wie? Now his comments and name are published around the world.
If you want to get noticed in the media or in a golf blog, just be a name dropper.
Michael is a great player who doesn't get the media coverage he deserves. His PR guys must have written his reponses to boost his coverage.
It has been the only way Jean Van de Velde can get a line written about himself anywhere. It is an old PR ploy that is quite transparent.
If you want to get noticed in the media or in a golf blog, just be a name dropper.
Michael is a great player who doesn't get the media coverage he deserves. His PR guys must have written his reponses to boost his coverage.
It has been the only way Jean Van de Velde can get a line written about himself anywhere. It is an old PR ploy that is quite transparent.
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2006-05-18 @ 04:59
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
If Campbell thinks it should not be all about money--but that having fun should be important too--then he should be totally supportive of any men's tournament that wants to invite Michelle Wie. What could do more to make a tournament fun than having Michelle Wie in the field? If he is worried about some more deserving man missing out on the fun, why not ask Omega to give that man a free pass to the tournament. That way he can have fun too. It is good to know that Campbell is only worried about having fun, so we can forget about any concern that the displaced man will not be earning a check for the week--not that the last man in the field would be that likely to make the cut in any case.
Oh and can we rest assured that later in his life Michael Campbell will never accept a sponsor's exemption himself?
Oh and can we rest assured that later in his life Michael Campbell will never accept a sponsor's exemption himself?
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2006-05-19 @ 12:56
Comment from: mike [Visitor] · http://www.optonline.net
I've been following some of the blogs from time to time, and I honestly don't know whether its healthy to do so. I'm amazed by MW (and by lots of other precocious 16-year-olds). Despite my better judgment, I thought I would weigh in.
MW is taking advantage commercially like few individuals can and that naturally results in jealousy and resentment. Blame the system, not MW for being akamai (hawaiian for smart).
Please recall that the LPGA refused to permit MW to play in both Hawaii LPGA events this year. MW ended up forgoing an event that she finished second last year, and the LPGA didn't generate the kind of excitement at that event it could have. How does that make the sponsor feel about next year's event when MW is still in high school? It is hypocrisy, plain and simple, to tell MW to focus on the LPGA. Sure, she can stay home just like she did when the SBS was being played in Hawaii.
I feel sorry about the male touring pros who are struggling to make it on the PGA Tour, but its a huge business and a sponsor is absolutely entitled to sell tickets and generate publicity. The PGA Tour (and its fat checks) simply does not exist for those poor, struggling male pros.
As far as the PGA qualifying school, it's a grueling, difficult tournament, and I think MW should try it because she will learn a great deal about herself and her game. She can tell us again how fun it is (and it should be fun playing against the best at 16). I don't know if she could qualify, but she did pretty good at the Men's Amateur beating some excellent players.
MW is taking advantage commercially like few individuals can and that naturally results in jealousy and resentment. Blame the system, not MW for being akamai (hawaiian for smart).
Please recall that the LPGA refused to permit MW to play in both Hawaii LPGA events this year. MW ended up forgoing an event that she finished second last year, and the LPGA didn't generate the kind of excitement at that event it could have. How does that make the sponsor feel about next year's event when MW is still in high school? It is hypocrisy, plain and simple, to tell MW to focus on the LPGA. Sure, she can stay home just like she did when the SBS was being played in Hawaii.
I feel sorry about the male touring pros who are struggling to make it on the PGA Tour, but its a huge business and a sponsor is absolutely entitled to sell tickets and generate publicity. The PGA Tour (and its fat checks) simply does not exist for those poor, struggling male pros.
As far as the PGA qualifying school, it's a grueling, difficult tournament, and I think MW should try it because she will learn a great deal about herself and her game. She can tell us again how fun it is (and it should be fun playing against the best at 16). I don't know if she could qualify, but she did pretty good at the Men's Amateur beating some excellent players.
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2006-05-22 @ 21:02
Comment from: Maggy [Visitor]
I see Miss Pressel is having another amazing day of golf. Tied for 80th!!! WOW how impressive. And this being a tournament that is missing Sorenstam, Creamer, Ochoa and many other great players. Wonder what the excuse is this time?
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2006-05-25 @ 15:00
Comment from: Fred [Visitor]
mike,
nice post. first sensible one I have read in many moons.
nice post. first sensible one I have read in many moons.
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2006-06-01 @ 17:32
Comment from: Joe [Visitor]
Glad to see that someone, namely Jimbo, know that "no one" isn't one word "noone" like every other time I've seen it spelled in this thread!
Michelle Wie tied for third in another Major LPGA event! I think she's definitely proving herself to be worthy of sponsor's exemptions on both the LPGA & PGA tours.
Michelle Wie tied for third in another Major LPGA event! I think she's definitely proving herself to be worthy of sponsor's exemptions on both the LPGA & PGA tours.
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2006-07-03 @ 07:42
Comment from: Sportsfan Dan - TheExtraPoint.com [Visitor] · http://theextrapoint.com
@Ty
I couldn't agree more. The Big Wiesy is overmatched, underqualified, and generally
unproven in anything other than her matches against local caddies, has-beens,
and never-was's. I give her all the props in the world, but she's got to prove she
can beat the competition on the LPGA tour before she should try to beat the men.
Case in point, she's currently standing in SECOND TO LAST place with a first round
78 at the Sony Open.
I wrote about it on my blog: http://theextrapoint.com/archives/2007/01/12/michelle-why/trackback/
I couldn't agree more. The Big Wiesy is overmatched, underqualified, and generally
unproven in anything other than her matches against local caddies, has-beens,
and never-was's. I give her all the props in the world, but she's got to prove she
can beat the competition on the LPGA tour before she should try to beat the men.
Case in point, she's currently standing in SECOND TO LAST place with a first round
78 at the Sony Open.
I wrote about it on my blog: http://theextrapoint.com/archives/2007/01/12/michelle-why/trackback/
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2007-01-12 @ 14:48
Comment from: Observer [Visitor]
The lower ranked PAG players can complain, but golf is a game and entertainment. Obviously having Wie in the field is better for fans and better for ratings than having one more pro who barely qualifies. I just don't buy this whining about Wie taking away a spot from a man. It is good for the game and that is the bottom line.
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