Apr
19
Is Michelle Wie shrinking Morgan Pressel's and Annika Sorenstam's popularity?
I can probably think of 20 questions to ask Morgan Pressel right off the top of my head without once mentioning the name “Michelle Wie". So why did reporter Dana Gross-Rhode, during a pre-tournament interview for this week’s Florida’s Natural Charity Championship hosted by Nancy Lopez, inject the following?
“On the Men’s Tour there has seemed to be over the last few years a growing sort of trend if Tiger doesn’t play in a tournament, the tournament is not an upper echelon event…is there a sense in your eyes that in the media sort of spotlight if Michelle (Wie) is not playing in a tournament that it doesn’t reach that hype status?”
Whether she likes it or not I believe Pressel is finally getting accustomed to hearing “Big Wiesy’s” name carefully threaded into her own interview. Morgan answered graciously, almost resigned to this fact, “when she (Wie)doesn’t play, it hurts the event so much. Even Annika, when Annika doesn’t play, it hurts these events.”
Wait a minute! When did Annika Sorenstam, the top player on the LPGA tour, start playing second fiddle to a 16-year old amateur? The LPGA hype fades fast if Wie doesn’t play a certain week and all the girls on tour seem to be resigned to it, even Annika, who stated at the Safeway International, “There’s a lot more younger players coming up, and they’ve got strong games and they’re making a lot of noise".
The ladies are now starting to put their egos aside which makes sense because publicity injects revenue so they can all benefit.
Oh, and in case you’re interested the Florida’s Natural Charity Championship is not even being televised this weekend. Even host Nancy Lopez‘ name couldn’t garner enough interest.
Annika Sorenstam is defending her “gimmie” last year as the field was blown away. Over $200,000 will go to the champion. My bet is that even with Paula Creamer and Natalie Gulbis in the mix the winner just might be Seon Hwa Lee who has quietly taken second place three times so far this season and is leading the charge to win the Louise Suggs Rolex Rookie of the Year award.
But with Michelle Wie not playing this week do LPGA golf fans really care?
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152 comments
Comment from: Paul W [Visitor]
The lack of TV coverage is because there was a late sponser change. The non-major LPGA events Wie is in don't get any better coverage than the one's she is not in. Her presence seems to effect the coverage of the men's events she is in more than the LPGA events.
Pressel, consiously or unconsiously, seems to be doing a good job of playing off Wie's fame and trying to turn it in to a Wie/Pressel rivalry. Morgan stands to benefit a lot, all she has to do is start beating Wie more.
Pressel, consiously or unconsiously, seems to be doing a good job of playing off Wie's fame and trying to turn it in to a Wie/Pressel rivalry. Morgan stands to benefit a lot, all she has to do is start beating Wie more.
2006-04-19 @ 17:43
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
I have to disagree with you on the "late" sponsorship change. Chick-fil-a ended their association at the end of last year's tournament and Florida's Natural stepped in.
I try to be very careful with my facts although no one is 100% and your input is greatly appreciated.
In my opinion Michelle Wie is a major draw in attendance and broadcast coverage. I think it would be difficult for anyone to dispute that fact.
Wouldn't it be fun to see Wie make a PGA cut and play a round with Tiger Woods?
I try to be very careful with my facts although no one is 100% and your input is greatly appreciated.
In my opinion Michelle Wie is a major draw in attendance and broadcast coverage. I think it would be difficult for anyone to dispute that fact.
Wouldn't it be fun to see Wie make a PGA cut and play a round with Tiger Woods?
2006-04-19 @ 19:28
Comment from: June [Visitor]
"Michelle is a major draw, but TGC doesn't seem to increase their hours of TV coverage. However, there is certainly more press coverage."
How about the Field Open 2nd round broadcasting? They showed whole 18 holes of Michlle Wie (17 of Morgan Pressel) over4 and half hours?
I don't know about you but this is my first to see one's entire 18 holes broadcasting. SONY Open and John Deere classic broadcasting has been extended till her fianl hole but even then her first couple of hole wasn't live.
Just some info.
How about the Field Open 2nd round broadcasting? They showed whole 18 holes of Michlle Wie (17 of Morgan Pressel) over4 and half hours?
I don't know about you but this is my first to see one's entire 18 holes broadcasting. SONY Open and John Deere classic broadcasting has been extended till her fianl hole but even then her first couple of hole wasn't live.
Just some info.
2006-04-19 @ 20:48
Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
Wait a minute! When did Annika Sorenstam, the top player on the LPGA tour, start playing second fiddle to a 16-year old amateur?
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Dear writer, you need to correct the above. Michelle ain't an amateur no more.
To answer the question, YES. If Wie don't play, We don't watch. It is not about the 'hype', but about the excitement, energy and grace that Wie brings to the tourney...
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Dear writer, you need to correct the above. Michelle ain't an amateur no more.
To answer the question, YES. If Wie don't play, We don't watch. It is not about the 'hype', but about the excitement, energy and grace that Wie brings to the tourney...
2006-04-19 @ 21:03
Comment from: TS [Visitor]
I think everyone is waiting to see Michelle win her first tournament. She is good enough to do it. If she can get it done this year, she will be the youngest ever to win on the LPGA. How often does that happen?
Annika is a great golfer, and is undeniably the best female golfer out there, but you're not going to change your schedule to watch her win yet another tournament.
Annika is a great golfer, and is undeniably the best female golfer out there, but you're not going to change your schedule to watch her win yet another tournament.
2006-04-19 @ 22:46
Comment from: Gordon [Visitor]
Stacy--I agree it would be great to see Tiger and Michelle play a round together, we just need to Tiger to play in a Nationwide event or on the Asian tour and someone would need to give Michelle putting lessons. In other words I'm not holding my breath. Great comment from the guy saying that it's not the "hype" surrounding Michelle Wie that makes him watch her play, it's the excitement, energy and grace(all buzzwords for hype) she brings to the tournament--how about her skill, shotmaking, and competive fire. Finally TS it happened last year when Paula Creamer became the youngest to win on the LPGA tour(multi-round event), wow, she would be shattering a one year old record and don't forget that Amy Yang won the Australian Masters(granted a European tour event) at age 16 last year. That tournament included Ai Miyazato, Sophie Sandalo, Laura Davies and Karrie Webb among others. The cat is out of the bag when it comes to teens winning golf tournaments. Michelle's time will come soon, but let not go off the deep end hailing her as golf's conquering hero just yet, let's see her win first.
2006-04-19 @ 23:35
Comment from: TS [Visitor]
Actually Michelle would be breaking a 54-year old record if she wins before she turns 18. Paula is the second youngest to win an LPGA event. The only reason folks don't count 18-hole events is so Paula can have a record.
She'll also be going for the "youngest female to make the cut in a PGA event", and the "youngest to win a major". Both are possibilities this year.
Won't be long before she'll be out of the running for "youngest to win ..." records. She may as well go for the glory while she can.
She'll also be going for the "youngest female to make the cut in a PGA event", and the "youngest to win a major". Both are possibilities this year.
Won't be long before she'll be out of the running for "youngest to win ..." records. She may as well go for the glory while she can.
2006-04-20 @ 00:32
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I would say it is a safe bet to assume TGC is working the negotiations to carry the SK Telecom Open from Seoul in May.
The Casio was not on their schedule until Michelle signed on and it is apparent TGC knows a good thing when they see it.
Look for some huge galleries following her in Seoul.
The Casio was not on their schedule until Michelle signed on and it is apparent TGC knows a good thing when they see it.
Look for some huge galleries following her in Seoul.
2006-04-20 @ 04:13
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
One more note of interest. For several years the SK Open has been played at a very fine 18 hole golf course in Seoul.
When Michelle signed on the event sponsors negotited the use of a course that is much larger with 72 holes a little further outside of Seoul.
They are expecting on having in excess of 200,000 plus attendance and the most ever to view a golf event in Korea.
That is the power of Wie.
Just wait till she tees it up in China for the first time. It may hit a million for a four day event.
Nike, Sony and Omega are getting everything they could hope for in the largest emerging market in the world.
When Michelle signed on the event sponsors negotited the use of a course that is much larger with 72 holes a little further outside of Seoul.
They are expecting on having in excess of 200,000 plus attendance and the most ever to view a golf event in Korea.
That is the power of Wie.
Just wait till she tees it up in China for the first time. It may hit a million for a four day event.
Nike, Sony and Omega are getting everything they could hope for in the largest emerging market in the world.
2006-04-20 @ 04:25
Comment from: JM [Visitor]
TS--18 hole events are an asterisk item. If you are going to consider 18 hole tournaments you might as well count 9 hole tournaments back when golf was actually only 9 holes per round. All the mens and womens records would change. Additionally only 18 women played in the event Marlene won. Paula Ctreamer is the youngest so far but Wie might break her record.
2006-04-20 @ 07:00
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
It's good to see so many LPGA fans!
Ah, to be 16 again and not to have a care in the world but school, going to the mall with your friends and playing great golf.
I truly agree with the statement from One-putt, "Nike, Sony and Omega are getting everything they could hope for in the largest emerging market in the world."
Ah, to be 16 again and not to have a care in the world but school, going to the mall with your friends and playing great golf.
I truly agree with the statement from One-putt, "Nike, Sony and Omega are getting everything they could hope for in the largest emerging market in the world."
2006-04-20 @ 08:36
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
So Stacy do you think a Mercedes Umbrella is in the works to keep Michelle cool in the hot Asian sun? Why did Annika move over to Lexus?
2006-04-20 @ 09:07
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
I don't know if Michelle is the Mercedes type...although Barry points out that the convertible 2-seater might look interesting on her...
I couldn't tell you the reason why Annika moved over to Lexus. Perhaps the package was better and her commitment to Mercedes was over, although I would personally prefer a nice shiny "S-600" sedan to a Lexus LS. ;-)
I couldn't tell you the reason why Annika moved over to Lexus. Perhaps the package was better and her commitment to Mercedes was over, although I would personally prefer a nice shiny "S-600" sedan to a Lexus LS. ;-)
2006-04-20 @ 14:08
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
It is hard to imagine her tooling around the Hawaian landscape in a Buick.
I would recommend the SLK55 AMG in red. Every little girl would want one. :-)
I would recommend the SLK55 AMG in red. Every little girl would want one. :-)
2006-04-20 @ 14:39
Comment from: Paul W [Visitor]
After the way she talked about her driving on 60 minutes, maybe she should drive a Volvo.
2006-04-20 @ 15:36
Comment from: dedeu [Visitor]
As for Michelle's time left for breaking "youngest to win" records
If she was going for the record for the youngest woman to make the cut in the PGA, wouldn't she have another 16 or 17 years left to beat Babe Didrikson Zaharias' record?
If she was going for the record for the youngest woman to make the cut in the PGA, wouldn't she have another 16 or 17 years left to beat Babe Didrikson Zaharias' record?
2006-04-20 @ 16:29
Comment from: TS [Visitor]
I don't think we'll have to wait 16 years before some young lady makes the cut in a PGA tournament. Unless the PGA stops giving out sponsor's exemptions to women.
2006-04-20 @ 21:51
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
It appears Michelle will donate her appearance money to a Korean charity that pays for life saving operations on poor children. SK Telecom will match her donation to the charity.
Don't feel too bad for Michelle though, she is set to sign some more endorsement contracts in Korea that will net her over 5 million dollars. One as a spokesperson for a Korean constuction firm (I know Alex appreciates this one.) and another for a womens clothing manufacturer (not sportswear). There is a possibilty of four more, but they are still in negotiation.
During a recent survey Michelle Wie was the most recognized personality in Korea finishing ahead of native Pop Star Rain.
$18,000,000 plus since turning Pro in October. What will happen after she learns how to win?
Don't feel too bad for Michelle though, she is set to sign some more endorsement contracts in Korea that will net her over 5 million dollars. One as a spokesperson for a Korean constuction firm (I know Alex appreciates this one.) and another for a womens clothing manufacturer (not sportswear). There is a possibilty of four more, but they are still in negotiation.
During a recent survey Michelle Wie was the most recognized personality in Korea finishing ahead of native Pop Star Rain.
$18,000,000 plus since turning Pro in October. What will happen after she learns how to win?
2006-04-21 @ 03:12
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
It appears Porsche has gained the inside front row position in the Michelle automobile endorsement derby.
The word is Porsche is looking to enter the golf world in a big way like their European competitors Mercedes, Volvo and BMW.
The 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet would match a sparkly Omega watch perfectly.
The word is Porsche is looking to enter the golf world in a big way like their European competitors Mercedes, Volvo and BMW.
The 911 Carrera 4S Cabriolet would match a sparkly Omega watch perfectly.
2006-04-21 @ 03:35
Comment from: David [Visitor]
I'll still watch if Michelle doesn't play. Michelle, after all, hardly ever plays; and she only ever comes second anyway. Never first.
Besides, she's not even the best player on tour.
Besides, she's not even the best player on tour.
2006-04-21 @ 05:47
David, You're really asking for it! The Wie Warriors are getting out the napalm and the flame throwers as we speak!
2006-04-21 @ 10:35
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
David, well done for your commitment to the lpga.
Unfortunately for the lpga, many many fans only tune in to watch Wie in action.
Unfortunately for the lpga, many many fans only tune in to watch Wie in action.
2006-04-21 @ 12:58
Comment from: jon [Visitor]
A slight change of topic. Annika was recently invited by Greg Norman to join his Shark Shootout at the end of the 2006 season. She can pick anyone she wants as her partner. The rating will go absolutely mad if she and Michelle Wie partner up. One problem I see is that neither of them is up to the PGA standard. I don't know whether it will be good for either one, if they do really badly. On the other hand, if they somehow exceed the expectations, it would be a quite a coup. The idea must be very tempting.
2006-04-21 @ 16:48
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Hell David I even watch the European and Asian Tours, so I must be an addict. I keep looking for a Monday qualifier named "Norman".
Right now I am watching a tribute to Payne Stewart on DVD and realize just how much I miss him and his game. Watching PGA golf is kind of dull without his charisma in the field.
Alex you must have some comment on Michelle getting 2.4 mil to be a spokesperson. I recall once stating to you Alex, "Michelle may not win any awards for public speaking, but she will be paid very well to speak publicly..".
At least give me credit for being right once Alex in our lengthy debate.
Michelle will be applying to Stanford this fall so she must have pulled at least the minimum SAT requirements:
Stanford SAT Requirements: 620 verbal; 670 MATH.
Right now I am watching a tribute to Payne Stewart on DVD and realize just how much I miss him and his game. Watching PGA golf is kind of dull without his charisma in the field.
Alex you must have some comment on Michelle getting 2.4 mil to be a spokesperson. I recall once stating to you Alex, "Michelle may not win any awards for public speaking, but she will be paid very well to speak publicly..".
At least give me credit for being right once Alex in our lengthy debate.
Michelle will be applying to Stanford this fall so she must have pulled at least the minimum SAT requirements:
Stanford SAT Requirements: 620 verbal; 670 MATH.
2006-04-21 @ 16:58
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
Jon, I hardly agree that neither Annika Sorenstam nor Michelle Wie are up to PGA standard. Wie can hit a drive 300 yards and Sorenstam is the top golfer in the LPGA.
On any given day either of these two women can defeat any top player in the PGA Tour and can easily defeat the majority of the players in the PGA.
On any given day either of these two women can defeat any top player in the PGA Tour and can easily defeat the majority of the players in the PGA.
2006-04-21 @ 18:48
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
There was a joke in the Wie camp that Michelle Wie(as far as driving distance is concerned)was too long for the LPGA, too short for thr PGA but just right for the Chanpions(Senior) Tour. It sounds like Michelle Wie is still working on bringing herself up to the PGA standard. I expect Michelle to make a PGA cut in the near future--but I certainly don't think it will be easy for her to defeat the majority of PGA players.
2006-04-21 @ 20:16
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
If the SK Open in Korea is going to be played on a 72 hole course, will that mean everyone plays all 72 holes with no cut? That would mean Michelle Wie will definitely play 4 days. It would be interesting to see her perform in such a format.
2006-04-21 @ 20:29
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
If the SK Open in Korea is going to be played on a 72 hole course, will that mean everyone plays all 72 holes with no cut? That would mean Michelle Wie will definitely play 4 days. It would be interesting to see her perform in such a format."
No Jim it was moved to a larger venue to accomodate the expected crowds and need for additional parking. Il Dong Lake Golf Club was just too small of an area after Michelle signed on.
Last year at the SK Telecom they had less than 30,000 attend the event over all four days. They are estimating 35,000 plus a day this year while Michelle is playing in the field. If she plays on the weekend they are estimating releasing 50,000 passes a day as a limit.
If the SK Open in Korea is going to be played on a 72 hole course, will that mean everyone plays all 72 holes with no cut? That would mean Michelle Wie will definitely play 4 days. It would be interesting to see her perform in such a format."
No Jim it was moved to a larger venue to accomodate the expected crowds and need for additional parking. Il Dong Lake Golf Club was just too small of an area after Michelle signed on.
Last year at the SK Telecom they had less than 30,000 attend the event over all four days. They are estimating 35,000 plus a day this year while Michelle is playing in the field. If she plays on the weekend they are estimating releasing 50,000 passes a day as a limit.
2006-04-21 @ 22:02
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
According to BJ, Michelle will major in economics at Stanford to prepare her for life in her forties and beyond after the professional golf days are over.
I guess we have a few more years to go before we see Michelle playing fulltime on any tour.
I guess we have a few more years to go before we see Michelle playing fulltime on any tour.
2006-04-22 @ 03:35
Miss Wie's agents have wangled her a sponsors' exemption to the 84 Lumber Classic in September, to be played again this year on the Nemacolin Resort course in Western Pennsylvania. It will take a major miracle and an Act of Congress for her to make the cut on that layout. I've played it twice and it is long and tough. From the pro tees it measures over 7500 yards. One par five is 634 yards. At least two of the par threes are 230 yards plus. And it's hilly and rocky to the max. It definitely is not a pitty-pat course like those at the Sony or the John Deere where Bubbles still hasn't made a cut. She'll be in WAY OVER her head.
2006-04-22 @ 09:00
One-Putt, Your latest prediction for Miss Wie will surely win the rose-colored glasses award for 2006. Let's see: Bubbles is only 16 years old, BUT she is on the verge of re-writing the history of women's golf. That is, after she learns how to putt. Although she is still a high school junior, she has somehow applied for admission to Stanford where she will major in and graduate summa cum laude in economics so that she can self-manage her vast financial empire. She will amass this fortune by winning multiple majors on the LPGA tour as well as a few on the PGA tour. But these accomplishments will only be a sidelight to her real career as a motivational speaker which will net her millions well into her forties. And the beautiful part of all this is that she won't need any financial or investment advice like other celebrities. No, she'll be at least as qualified as any investment banker at Goldman Sachs to manage her portfolio. Did I leave anything out?
2006-04-22 @ 09:24
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Alex, what ever happened to you that you are so sour on life and/or everyone and anything in it?
Instead of whining about MW, why not just sit back and watch. All your bellyaching isn't going to change what she or the LPGA or the PGA does.
Get a life, try to be happy.
Instead of whining about MW, why not just sit back and watch. All your bellyaching isn't going to change what she or the LPGA or the PGA does.
Get a life, try to be happy.
2006-04-22 @ 12:51
Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
I am kind of curious. I recall One Putt imploring me to appreciate the talents of various other LPGA players besides Wie. One Putt, you seem to be knowlegeable about the various tours, PGA, LPGA, Asian and Champions. My questions is: What do you find exciting about the LPGA besides Wie. Am I weird that I find the LPGA boring? Granted that Annika has an extremely dependable swing and she is a true champion on and off the field. But, in general I don't find the level of plays exciting. One putt, give me one good reason that I should appreciate the LPGA.
2006-04-22 @ 14:35
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Actually Alex Michelle has been invited to the 84 every year since 2003 and decided to accept this year out of respect for her father's friend, Mr. Hardy. It is the last 84 Lumber Classic to be played on the PGA tour.
Michelle's family has vacationed with the Hardy family over the years and played many rounds at Nemacolin. The reason she didn't play in the 84 in the past was the threat from some PGA elitests that they would not play the event if Michelle was in the field. Mr. Hardy said, "to hell with them this year" since it is the last year of the event with the new PGA 2007 schedule.
Nemacolin might have seemed like an impossible golf course to an amateur hacker like yourself Alex, but Michelle is a Professional golfer who thinks of it as just another challenging golf course. It is one of her favorite courses to play on.
Michelle's family has vacationed with the Hardy family over the years and played many rounds at Nemacolin. The reason she didn't play in the 84 in the past was the threat from some PGA elitests that they would not play the event if Michelle was in the field. Mr. Hardy said, "to hell with them this year" since it is the last year of the event with the new PGA 2007 schedule.
Nemacolin might have seemed like an impossible golf course to an amateur hacker like yourself Alex, but Michelle is a Professional golfer who thinks of it as just another challenging golf course. It is one of her favorite courses to play on.
2006-04-22 @ 14:51
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Jon needs a reason to watch excellent golf being played? I guess they make it look so easy, you must think it really is Jon.
I am a fan of the game Jon, not of gender or the age of the players. Good golf is good golf.
Jon if you need one good reason I would suggest you attend a event with Annika in the field and join her gallery. Most days her shots are magical and will leave you breathless. If you want to learn how to manage and tame a golf course, watch her in action.
I am a fan of the game Jon, not of gender or the age of the players. Good golf is good golf.
Jon if you need one good reason I would suggest you attend a event with Annika in the field and join her gallery. Most days her shots are magical and will leave you breathless. If you want to learn how to manage and tame a golf course, watch her in action.
2006-04-22 @ 15:09
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
BTW Jon, Annika does not feel threatened by Paula, Lorena, Natalie or Morgan. Now that Inkster and Webb have rediscovered their games, they are the ones she is wary of in the field.
Get ready for one exciting season.
Get ready for one exciting season.
2006-04-22 @ 15:14
Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
One Putt... Thanks for providing many useful information in your blogs, but you are not really answering my question. I am sure the LPGA is excellent for women. Compared to the PGA, however, it is a junior high golf. Why would I watch a LPGA tourney when I can watch a PGA one. Heck, I can hit longer than almost all of them. On a good day, I can hit a few close to 300 yards. College kids can hit over 300 yeards. When you hear a man swing, you can feel and hear the power. Women will never be able to hit irons from a deep rough like men do. They don't have the forearm strength. The list goes on and on. I still think the LPGA should have coustume themed tournaments. Now, that would be fun.
(my issue is: one reason unique to the LPGA)
2006-04-22 @ 18:03
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
Jon, the ladies of the LPGA can hit a long drive but that is not why someone would tune in. Accuracy with irons and through putting can make a viewer just as breathless as watching a 300 yard drive.
When I was the standard-bearer for Annika Sorenstam at the Sybase (a few years back) she was just incredible to watch, even though she wasn't at her best. My eyes followed every putt and I was able to listen to her talk about her next shot with her caddie.
It's not all about who can hit the longest drive, although with Michelle Wie in the field you might soon get your wish to watch an LPGA tourney where the girls can hit as long as the guys!
When I was the standard-bearer for Annika Sorenstam at the Sybase (a few years back) she was just incredible to watch, even though she wasn't at her best. My eyes followed every putt and I was able to listen to her talk about her next shot with her caddie.
It's not all about who can hit the longest drive, although with Michelle Wie in the field you might soon get your wish to watch an LPGA tourney where the girls can hit as long as the guys!
2006-04-22 @ 19:15
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
No Alex you didn't miss anything I think you covered most everything.
2006-04-23 @ 02:33
putt4par, If I and others like me were to take your advice and quit our incessant bitching on these blogs about the over-hyped Bubbles, the only ones posting would be fawning, butt-kissing, brown-nosing Wie Warriors like yourself. There would be no opportunity for your to express yourself in opposition with such brilliant retorts like "get a life" and "try to be happy." What fun would that be?
2006-04-23 @ 07:53
One-Putt, I find it more than a little telling that Miss Wie's sponsors' exemption to the 84 Lumber Classic was revealed to the press not by her doting father, the irrepressible BJ, not by Joe Hardy, reputed to be a longtime friend and vacation partner of the Wie family as wll as board chairman of the event sponsor, and not even by Miss Wie herself, who could have used the occasion to showcase her developing talent in public speaking. No, It was announced by her AGENT! This is quite amazing since in the opinion of the Wie Warriors her agent(s) never even try to pressure any sponsors for the coveted exemptions. O-P, you seem to know a lot about Miss Wie's playing at Nemacolin. What is her average score on the many rounds she has played on one of her favorite courses? Since she is a high school student in Hawaii, about 5000 miles from the course, how often does she get to play on this layout, one of her favorites? Last year it took a score of even par to make the cut in this event. That's even par on a 7500+ yard par 72 course. She has two chances of making the cut: slim and none. A few touring pro's have privately stated that the PGA should step in to prevent such blatant pandering; that several of the alternates feel rightfully slighted that someone so eminently unqualified should get admission to a tour event over a player who may have the stats but not the exempt status as yet. Incidentally, how is Michelle going to make up the week of school she misses when she plays at the 84 Lumber? Will her agent announce that she is being privately tutored at night after she finishes her round? Her academics won't suffer too much though since she'll only be playing two days.
2006-04-23 @ 10:03
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
And I say Michelle Wie has two chances to miss the cut--slim and none. When the results are in, guess what, neither one of us will be proven wrong, since we both hedged our predictions so that any
possible outcome would be consistent with what we predicted. Either your slim chance will come to pass or mine will.
possible outcome would be consistent with what we predicted. Either your slim chance will come to pass or mine will.
2006-04-23 @ 13:05
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
The SONY is a par 70 course of 7060 yards compared to the 84 Lumber's par 72 course of 7516 yards. Is making par really harder on a par 3/4 than it would be on a par 4/5 that is 228 yards longer?
2006-04-23 @ 13:26
Comment from: David [Visitor]
As regards to Michelle and Stanford University - Michelle doesn't need to meet the standard entry requirements. She's rich and famous so the rules don't apply to her.
2006-04-23 @ 13:40
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
It doesn't seem unusual for an Agent to make announcements for their client. After all they need to earn their ten percent.
2006-04-23 @ 14:35
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
When the PGA steps in to tell a sponsor who they can invite to the tournament they are underwriting, the PGA will be chomping on the hand that feeds them. Ain't going to happen Alex.
2006-04-23 @ 14:53
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I haven't had the opportunity to observe Michelle playing the course Alex, but according to Maggie she does very well on a course that sets up nicely for her game.
2006-04-23 @ 15:03
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
You are right David, Stanford has made exceptions in the past as they did for Tiger because of his excelling at golf.
2006-04-23 @ 15:30
Uh, One-Putt, old buddy, Tiger was an AMATEUR at the time and was competing for Stanford. Bubbles is a pro,even though she is...sigh...,only 16 YEARS OLD. She won't be on the golf team roster at Stanford. I don't think they have sponsors' exemptions in college golf. But if they ever do, I'm sure that Miss Wie's agent(s) will be there hat in hand. If I could get the right odds, say 3 to 1, I'd bet that Bubbles never gets a degree from Stanford, and with 10 to 1 odds, I'd bet she never even attends that prestigious institution.
2006-04-23 @ 20:29
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
Alex
How would that bet work? You pay me a thousand is she attends Stanford, and I pay you ten thousand if we are both still alive when Michelle Wie dies without ever attending Stanford?
How would that bet work? You pay me a thousand is she attends Stanford, and I pay you ten thousand if we are both still alive when Michelle Wie dies without ever attending Stanford?
2006-04-23 @ 21:36
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Tiger was recruited by Stanford for he was the Tiger.
Michelle will be recruited for she is Michelle Wie. She will be invited to the most important Alumni fundraisers and special events. Gee Alex they may even ask her to be a guest speaker.
Alex you seem pretty sure Michelle will not pursue her dream of attending Stanford. I can see you are willing to bet the family plantation to bolster your claim.
I believe Michelle has nothing to lose and everything to gain by attending college.
Michelle will be recruited for she is Michelle Wie. She will be invited to the most important Alumni fundraisers and special events. Gee Alex they may even ask her to be a guest speaker.
Alex you seem pretty sure Michelle will not pursue her dream of attending Stanford. I can see you are willing to bet the family plantation to bolster your claim.
I believe Michelle has nothing to lose and everything to gain by attending college.
2006-04-24 @ 01:54
Michelle being competitive, might not want to be the only one in her family not to have a degree. Since they value education highly I think she will attend Stanford.
Maybe she should just settle for an honorary degree.
Maybe she should just settle for an honorary degree.
2006-04-24 @ 06:10
Comment from: Gordon [Visitor]
Let me get this straight, Michelle Wie and Annika Sorenstam are now of PGA Tour quality and able to EASILY defeat the top players in the world at the drop of a hat. That's funny, Michelle can't seem to defeat the top women in the world or at least all of them over the course of a tournament, check her career wins. Not only has Michelle been an absolute non-factor in every male tournament she has entered she has never even made a cut. Remember also that she has tried and failed in PGA venues, Nationwide venues and even Asian tour events hardly showing that she is capable of easily beating or even competing with top-players. As for Annika, even she doesn't believe your premise. After she missed the cut at the Colonial she herself stated that she was out of her league and that she was going back to the LPGA where she belonged. On any given day in a field of 150 tour pros odds are that I could beat a few of them, the ones that are having nightmare days or who are nursing injuries or are playing one-handed. I am all for equal rights and I think Annika Sorenstam is the greatest female golfer of all time, while Michelle Wie if she continues to improve and learns how to putt and close the deal at the end of tournaments can be one of the greatest of all time, but lets keep things in perspective here, wild claims about their level of play does nothing but weaken your arguments and diminish your credibility.
2006-04-24 @ 09:13
Gordon, I was wondering where you you got that information touting Annika and Michelle as capable of easily beating any PGA pro on any given day and capable of beating the MAJORITY of PGA pros. So I re-read this entire blog and sure enough, there it was, posted at 18:48, 04/21, by Stacy Solomon, those extraordinary words quoted verbatim. Now Stacy, it's one thing to be a Wie Warrior, it is a good thing to hope that Miss Wie excels in every aspect of her life, it may even be acceptable to advocate militant feminism. But Stacy, you've got to be realistic. There is absolutely no evidence that there is any truth or substance to your claims. Unless some unforeseen physical transformation occurs with either of these females, nothing that you state as fact will ever happen. I find it difficult if not impossible to think that you really believe what you claim in your post.
2006-04-24 @ 09:56
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
Glad to see you're paying attention!
Where I'm not a "Wie Warrior" I stand by my statement that Wie and Sorenstam are CAPABLE of beating any PGA tour pro on any given day. Wie never came in LAST in any PGA tour event she entered, did she?
Remember, the majority of the tour players are not Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson or Vijay Singh.
Where I'm not a "Wie Warrior" I stand by my statement that Wie and Sorenstam are CAPABLE of beating any PGA tour pro on any given day. Wie never came in LAST in any PGA tour event she entered, did she?
Remember, the majority of the tour players are not Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson or Vijay Singh.
2006-04-24 @ 10:32
Comment from: David [Visitor]
Stacy, Michelle couldn't beat Tiger, Phil, or Vijay Singh. She couldn't beat my club pro most of the time.
2006-04-24 @ 12:21
Stacy, this has been explained several times on these blogs by myself and others. But in case you missed them all, I'll try just this once more. Michelle Wie has never finished last in a PGA, Nationwide, or Asian Men's tour event for the simple reason that she has NEVER FINISHED an event on any of these tours. The only notation made in PGA stats when a golfer doesn't finish in the top 70 and ties is the one word, "CUT" Period, end of discussion. When a player misses the cut, whether it be by one stroke or ten, he's out of the money, he packs his bags and clubs, and either goes home or to the next tour stop. Maybe they should also get a "DNF", did not finish, next to their names.
2006-04-24 @ 13:23
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
Scores are still posted and Wie came in ahead of PGA Tour pros at the 2006 Sony Open.
She finished ahead of Todd Hamilton, Shawn Micheel, Bart Bryant(winner of this year's Memorial Tournament), to name a few of the 19 tour players in total.
http://www.pgatour.com/scoring/leaderboard/r006
If your club pro was this good he'd be on tour also! ;-)
She finished ahead of Todd Hamilton, Shawn Micheel, Bart Bryant(winner of this year's Memorial Tournament), to name a few of the 19 tour players in total.
http://www.pgatour.com/scoring/leaderboard/r006
If your club pro was this good he'd be on tour also! ;-)
2006-04-24 @ 14:53
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Alex let me ask you a question or two, so I can understand your logic:
Say I started playing professional golf a couple of years back and never won an event Alex, according to your logic I should quit trying to win and head home.
After turning Pro I enter my first PGA event on an exemption and failed to make the cut. According to your logic Alex I should hang up the spikes and quit trying.
I'm glad for the game Annika and Tiger did not follow your logic Alex.
Say I started playing professional golf a couple of years back and never won an event Alex, according to your logic I should quit trying to win and head home.
After turning Pro I enter my first PGA event on an exemption and failed to make the cut. According to your logic Alex I should hang up the spikes and quit trying.
I'm glad for the game Annika and Tiger did not follow your logic Alex.
2006-04-24 @ 15:07
One-Putt, It's beyond me where you arrived at those suppositions, but if it floats your boat it's all right with me. O-P, you normally make sense, but your last post has me somewhat bewildered. You didn't start drinking early, did you? If it will make you feel better and to clear the air, I will post the Gospel according to Alex: Annika and Woods, Julie and Phil, Karrie and Vijay, and Nancy and Jack have made their bones, they've earned their stripes, they've proven their worth and everybody knows it. Others like Stu and Christy are on the cusp and Paula and Camilo, and Morgan and JB are apprentices who despite their achievements thus far, still have much to prove. Michelle is an anomaly, the product of an enormous amount of hype and hyperbole. So much so that normally lucid folks like Stacy now think that Miss Wie's missed cuts are some sort of monumental triumphs. Despite the fact that she hasn't won a thing and has yet to make her mark on any tour, you folks have bestowed the mantle of immortality upon her. You have her giving motivational speeches at alumni dinners at Stanford more than a year before she graduates high school. Now, if you guys were just engaging in some light-hearted repartee in the mode of "devil's advocate" it wouldn't be all that bad. But you birds have convinced me that you're serious. So I guess I'll just sit back for the next few years and watch the Wie Warriors implode. As I've said previously, it just doesn't get any better than this. Come on, you Wie Warriors, to the ramparts! Upward and onward!
2006-04-24 @ 17:53
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
Although I do not agree that Michelle Wie's MC is a monumental triumph (as you claim), I believe that she did a terrific job and should be congratulated for her efforts.
Now it is time for Michelle to win a tournament and live up to the "hype". If it happens first on the LPGA Tour, so be it. But watch out for Wie once she starts to win...she'll be a force to be reckoned with.
Still, not bad for a 16-year-old! :-)
Now it is time for Michelle to win a tournament and live up to the "hype". If it happens first on the LPGA Tour, so be it. But watch out for Wie once she starts to win...she'll be a force to be reckoned with.
Still, not bad for a 16-year-old! :-)
2006-04-24 @ 19:00
The upcoming LPGA's Ginn Clubs & Resorts Open has two amateurs to watch for. The 13-year-old girl Dakota Dowd who was given an exemption because of her terminally ill mother's wish to see her play on an LPGA event. The other is Andia Winslow, the niece of the former NFL great. Good luck ladies.
2006-04-25 @ 01:57
The world according to Stacy: Miss Wie's missed cut is not a big achievement, BUT she did a terrific job by missing the cut and she should be congratulated. Huh? Am I losing something in the translation? I will be at the Memorial on June 1. Maybe I'll approach one of the pros who missed the cut and tell him "I know that you're disappointed that you played poorly and missed the cut, but in my opinion you did a terrific job and I'm congratulating you." Then I'll wait for security to escort me to the van with the padded interior.
2006-04-25 @ 08:11
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
The achievement for Miss Wie is that she's a 16-year-old girl playing great golf in a men's tournament. Her rebound on Friday (score 68) to almost make the weekend was phenomenal.
A pro golfer CAN have a great round of golf and be congratulated afterwards even if he/she misses the cut. No paddywagon needed for that!
A pro golfer CAN have a great round of golf and be congratulated afterwards even if he/she misses the cut. No paddywagon needed for that!
2006-04-25 @ 09:54
Michelle almost made the weekend? Good Golly, Miss Molly, she missed the cut by FOUR STROKES! Now missing the cut by four shots is PHENOMENAL! Now shooting a round of nine over par in round one and being out contention is "playing great golf." Stacy, you've got to stop playing fast and loose with the English language. Semantics will only carry you so far.
2006-04-25 @ 10:36
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
So when was the last time you carded a 79 Alex on a course setup for the PGA? After all you are a man Alex, so playing with Michelle at the Sony you would have easily beat her on that day or any day for that matter. Heck Alex you could have beaten John Cook who shot a 79 that day and has 11 PGA wins to his credit.
The next round John redeemed himself somewhat by shooting 2 over to finish his tournament at 11 over par. It might have been a little difficult for you to finish ahead of John the second round Alex. Of course Michelle just got lucky the second round with her 68.
The next round John redeemed himself somewhat by shooting 2 over to finish his tournament at 11 over par. It might have been a little difficult for you to finish ahead of John the second round Alex. Of course Michelle just got lucky the second round with her 68.
2006-04-25 @ 14:58
One-Putt, You'd better stay off the sauce, man. Some of the non sequiturs that you're coming up with are downright surreal. Your bizarre comparisons are way beyond "apples and oranges". They're more like "turnips and mangos." I fail to see how the potential golf score of a 60 year old amateur, an attorney to boot, would have the slightest connection with that of Miss Wie, John Cook, or any PROFESSIONAL. To put it bluntly, One-Putt, what in the pluperfect hell are you talking about?
2006-04-25 @ 18:59
Comment from: Barry G. [Visitor]
Alex, I have been watching the comments and have little to say because on my best day, I can't beat Michelle even though I sport a real 9-12 handicap. She is a Pro that knows how to go low. In my book, just as in other sports, any team or any player at this level can defeat another on any given day.
2006-04-25 @ 19:02
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
Michelle Wie cannot easily beat any PGA pro--but on her best day she can post a score that will easily beat the scores posted by the majority of PGA pros--and it will be a score that will be better than the score posted by a top pro like Tiger if this happens to be his worst day. While this is true for Michelle(and she did the first part her second round at the SONY this year), I doubt there are very many women pros for whom it is true.
2006-04-25 @ 20:48
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
according to Alex:
"Michelle is an anomaly, the product of an enormous amount of hype and hyperbole."
And that is where you are wrong, Alex.
Hype : to promote or publicize extravagantly
Michelle is not the product of the hype, the Hype is the product of a media machine that is mostly Sports writers waxing far beyond poetic on her abilities.
Then to compound those same errors, people like you come along and add to the furor with no idea what you are talking about. Just being negative because you can, IMO.
Michelle is the product of a lot of time spent on the golf course.
Get your facts straight if you intend to bash everyone else. You don't have to watch her or agree with the hype or even read what Stacy has to say, but PLEASE... get it right if you intend to comment.
according to Alex:
"Michelle is an anomaly, the product of an enormous amount of hype and hyperbole."
And that is where you are wrong, Alex.
Hype : to promote or publicize extravagantly
Michelle is not the product of the hype, the Hype is the product of a media machine that is mostly Sports writers waxing far beyond poetic on her abilities.
Then to compound those same errors, people like you come along and add to the furor with no idea what you are talking about. Just being negative because you can, IMO.
Michelle is the product of a lot of time spent on the golf course.
Get your facts straight if you intend to bash everyone else. You don't have to watch her or agree with the hype or even read what Stacy has to say, but PLEASE... get it right if you intend to comment.
2006-04-25 @ 22:59
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
The Nancy Lopez Award for the world's outstanding amateur for 2005 was just awarded last week. To no one's great surprise Nancy awarded it to someone other than Michelle Wie. Morgan Pressel won it. Was Morgan Pressel really the most outstanding amateur for 2005--or has Morgan Pressel been overrated?
2006-04-25 @ 23:50
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Considering that Nancy Lopez has not had too many nice things to say about Michelle Wies chosen path to fame and fortune, I would have been very surprised if she was even considered.
2006-04-26 @ 00:28
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Alex did your golf Hero Tiger ever post a score of 79 or above in a PGA tournament as an amateur (sponsor's exemption) or professional? Did he also ever fail to make a cut and if so, how many times?
I recall Tiger carding an 81 in the 3rd round of the Open. The worst round of his professional career, but that was not the real story Alex, the next day he came out and shot a 65 to end up at even par for the tournament.
Every golfer has the Demon visit them at one time or another and what is important is how they put him back in his place the next time out.
Annika's Demon made an appearance in Florida recently. Look for her to put him in his place at the very next event.
I recall Tiger carding an 81 in the 3rd round of the Open. The worst round of his professional career, but that was not the real story Alex, the next day he came out and shot a 65 to end up at even par for the tournament.
Every golfer has the Demon visit them at one time or another and what is important is how they put him back in his place the next time out.
Annika's Demon made an appearance in Florida recently. Look for her to put him in his place at the very next event.
2006-04-26 @ 03:25
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Considering that Nancy Lopez has not had too many nice things to say about Michelle Wies chosen path to fame and fortune, I would have been very surprised if she was even considered.
Just another case of swing envy.
Considering that Nancy Lopez has not had too many nice things to say about Michelle Wies chosen path to fame and fortune, I would have been very surprised if she was even considered.
Just another case of swing envy.
2006-04-26 @ 06:03
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I don't think Nancy should hold her breath waiting for Michelle to show up at her event in the future.
Bivens and the LPGA board are sitting around wondering "what will Wie do".
Bivens and the LPGA board are sitting around wondering "what will Wie do".
2006-04-26 @ 06:08
One-Putt, You're absolutely correct. Tiger did have some poor rounds as an amateur competing against the pros. He's even missed a few cuts as a pro. And he has even failed to win more than 75% of the tournaments in which he has competed. Oh, I know, some will say that he won three US Junior titles and three US Amateur titles, and now has won 61 pro events worldwide, but there are several things he might never accomplish. He won't ever collapse in his mother's arms sobbing when he misses a cut, he won't ever wear the longest dangling earrings in captivity, and he won't comment to an interviewer how pretty his new "sparkly"
wristwatch is.
wristwatch is.
2006-04-26 @ 08:28
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
Alex, I don't see how what Michelle Wie wears or how she cries in her mother's arms has anything to do with how she did during her round. To call these incidents "accomplishments" is moot.
It's nice to see the girls dressing like girls, isn't it? A few years ago everyone was complaining that the LPGA didn't look like girls and now that they do, more complaints...
It's nice to see the girls dressing like girls, isn't it? A few years ago everyone was complaining that the LPGA didn't look like girls and now that they do, more complaints...
2006-04-26 @ 08:55
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
You people are unbelievable. Morgan Pressel won the Nancy Lopez Amateur Award in 2005 because she won the US. Women's Amateur, not because of some grand conspiracy against Michelle Wie. Michelle Wie turned pro towards the end of 2005 and won no amateur titles and accomplished precious little of note.
2006-04-26 @ 12:21
Right on, Holt! Morgan also came within a shot, a miraculous hole-out by Birdie Kim, of winning the US Women's Open. But to the Wie Warriors like Stacy, One-Putt and putt4par such play pales in comparison to Bubbles' missed cuts in men's events and her immortal comments about her "sparkly" wristwatch. Thank goodness that a real pro, one who has actually won something, agrees with the Wie skeptics. Thanks, Nancy!
2006-04-26 @ 12:41
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
You're right Holt and Alex, "when you are ranked second in the World in Women's golf you must try harder".
Oh I forgot Alex that is a conspiracy by Rolex to boost up the ratings of a girl who wears a sparkly Omega watch.
So here are the 2006 stats for the three teens everyone likes to write about:
Morgan Pressel appeared in six LPGA events so far in 2006 and has earned $101,354. Morgan comes in at number 20 on the ADT Official money list.
Paula Creamer has appeared in eight LPGA events in 2006 and earned $184,071. She comes in at number 10 on the ADT money list.
Michelle Wie appeared in only two LPGA events in 2006 and so far has earned $181,449. Michelle is not ranked on the ADT list as the women with moustaches won't allow it. I think we can safely say she would place in 11th place slightly behind Paula.
Michelle is maintaining the same LPGA productivity average as she did in 2005 when she would have averaged above $90,000 per event if she were a Pro.
Holt and Alex, I would ask you both to do the math, but I can tell you are not rocket scientists so I did it for you.
Oh I forgot Alex that is a conspiracy by Rolex to boost up the ratings of a girl who wears a sparkly Omega watch.
So here are the 2006 stats for the three teens everyone likes to write about:
Morgan Pressel appeared in six LPGA events so far in 2006 and has earned $101,354. Morgan comes in at number 20 on the ADT Official money list.
Paula Creamer has appeared in eight LPGA events in 2006 and earned $184,071. She comes in at number 10 on the ADT money list.
Michelle Wie appeared in only two LPGA events in 2006 and so far has earned $181,449. Michelle is not ranked on the ADT list as the women with moustaches won't allow it. I think we can safely say she would place in 11th place slightly behind Paula.
Michelle is maintaining the same LPGA productivity average as she did in 2005 when she would have averaged above $90,000 per event if she were a Pro.
Holt and Alex, I would ask you both to do the math, but I can tell you are not rocket scientists so I did it for you.
2006-04-26 @ 13:57
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
You people are unbelievable. .... not because of some grand conspiracy against Michelle Wie....
I don't believe that i mentioned anywhere that there was any conspiracy. It is well documented that Lopez feels like you and Alex, that MWs chosen path to glory doesn't fit in with the views of you and Alex and Lopez.
Hence the belief that she wouldn't have been considered, regardless of any other criteria.
But then again, I might have known that someone could manufacture some slight to your beliefs out of nothing.
You people are unbelievable. .... not because of some grand conspiracy against Michelle Wie....
I don't believe that i mentioned anywhere that there was any conspiracy. It is well documented that Lopez feels like you and Alex, that MWs chosen path to glory doesn't fit in with the views of you and Alex and Lopez.
Hence the belief that she wouldn't have been considered, regardless of any other criteria.
But then again, I might have known that someone could manufacture some slight to your beliefs out of nothing.
2006-04-26 @ 13:59
Comment from: Holt [Visitor]
I was simply responding to Mr. Coultard and putt4par's complaints to Michelle Wie not winning an award that is clearly given to the top amateur golfer in 2005, which was rightfully presented to Morgan Pressel. I agree that Michelle has played wonderfully this year as a pro and has better results then both Ms. Pressel and Ms. Creamer, but that sadly is not pertinant to my earlier comment.
2006-04-26 @ 14:41
Holt, Your reply is far too sensible and lucid to cut any ice with the Wie Nuts. To these sycophants of Miss Wie, you have displayed your apostasy by not buying in to their disgust with Nancy Lopez for their perceived snub of Miss Wie. You're not getting off the hook that easily, mister. As an example of the disdain in which you are held in the Wie hive, putt4par, in his last post, derisively mentioned your handle with that of arch Wie skeptic, Alex. You, sir, are in trouble!
2006-04-26 @ 15:13
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
The Nancy Lopez Award was not for the top performer in US Women's or Girl's Amateur Golf--it was for the world's most outstanding female amateur. Last year Michelle Wie had the most outstanding performance a female golfer ever had in an amateuir event--a quarter final appearance in the APL. At least that is my view. I think it is incredible that Alex has such a high opinion of Women's Amateur Golf that he is more impressed by Pressel's Women's Amatuer win(with Wie absent) than he is with a quarter final finish in the Men's APL. Does Alex really think there were any players in the APL other than Wie who could not have easly won the Women's Amateur if they had been allowed to compete?
2006-04-26 @ 15:47
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
---their disgust with Nancy Lopez for their perceived snub of Miss Wie.---
Nowhere in that did I say anything about being disgusted with Nancy Lopez' opinion. I mean afterall, if you can have such wild opinions, surely Mrs. Knight is entitled to her opinion.
I still maintain that if Mrs Knight had a say in the picking of the recipient, then MW had no hope of even being considered. Nancy has made no bones about her feeling that MW has betrayed the LPGA by attempting to play in the PGA.
MW cannot belong to the LPGA until 2007 ( without an exemption from the commissioner) and that would bring another round of outraged verbal diarrhea from Alex, Chris Badwin, WKW and Tim McD.
She just cannot win with you guys, regardless of what she does.
---their disgust with Nancy Lopez for their perceived snub of Miss Wie.---
Nowhere in that did I say anything about being disgusted with Nancy Lopez' opinion. I mean afterall, if you can have such wild opinions, surely Mrs. Knight is entitled to her opinion.
I still maintain that if Mrs Knight had a say in the picking of the recipient, then MW had no hope of even being considered. Nancy has made no bones about her feeling that MW has betrayed the LPGA by attempting to play in the PGA.
MW cannot belong to the LPGA until 2007 ( without an exemption from the commissioner) and that would bring another round of outraged verbal diarrhea from Alex, Chris Badwin, WKW and Tim McD.
She just cannot win with you guys, regardless of what she does.
2006-04-26 @ 16:39
Jim C, Your post is far too convoluted for me to decipher, but I'll try. Is it your opinion that because Miss Wie, a child of privilege and member of an exclusive private club entered a Men's Public Links event, qualified for the US Men's Public Links and then was trounced 5 and 4 in a quarterfinal match after being 5 down after nine holes that she should, on the basis of such a lackluster performance, be awarded the trophy as Women's Amateur of the Year? You said that it is your opinion and if so, I'm glad it's yours. It's certainly not mine.
2006-04-26 @ 20:26
putt4par, you hint that you have nothing but the highest regard for the opinions of Nancy Lopez, but your post says otherwise? Why do you dislike Nancy so much? Did she win too many tournaments? Aren't her earrings long enough? No "sparkly" watch? What is it about her that has got your dander up?
2006-04-26 @ 20:35
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
Michelle Wie was not a member of an exclusive club when she played in the Public Links--and if that was only technically true, the same can probably be said for many of the other younger golfers in the event. And Alex, what about the three men she beat before she reached the quarters. Do you really think any of them were of lesser ability than Morgan Pressel? I figure any of the men who made the Public Links Match Play were better than all of the women in the US Amateur this year. Do you disagree with me on this one?
2006-04-27 @ 00:16
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Alex... You have the wildest imagination.
I don't dislike Nancy Lopez. Nowhere in that response to your drivel is there even the vaguest suggestion of dislike.
Even you no longer get my dander up, you just want to fight. With anyone that will fight with you. just don't attribute meanings to what I have said that are not there.
I realize your reading skills are subject to question and your comprehension level seems to me remarkably low but even you must realize, I only commented on what Nancy Lopez has already said, in public and to the media.
Based on what she said, I can safely assume that she would not vote for MW as recipient of her trophy.
No dislike of Nancy Lopez, no disgust , just an observation. But then that may be way to complicated for your nebulous thought processes to handle.
Bye Alex. Go take your prozac old man.
I don't dislike Nancy Lopez. Nowhere in that response to your drivel is there even the vaguest suggestion of dislike.
Even you no longer get my dander up, you just want to fight. With anyone that will fight with you. just don't attribute meanings to what I have said that are not there.
I realize your reading skills are subject to question and your comprehension level seems to me remarkably low but even you must realize, I only commented on what Nancy Lopez has already said, in public and to the media.
Based on what she said, I can safely assume that she would not vote for MW as recipient of her trophy.
No dislike of Nancy Lopez, no disgust , just an observation. But then that may be way to complicated for your nebulous thought processes to handle.
Bye Alex. Go take your prozac old man.
2006-04-27 @ 00:18
Comment from: Brian J [Visitor]
Alex, you hint that you have nothing but the highest regard for the opinions of Miss Wie, but your post says otherwise? Why do you dislike Miss Wie so much? Did she win too little tournaments? Aren't her earrings short enough? "Sparkly" watch? What is it about her that has got your dander up?
2006-04-27 @ 01:54
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
It is pretty simple, Morgan and Paula chose to beat up on the little girls in the amateur ranks. Michelle chose to play against the best adult golfers male or female in some of the top events.
We have heard all the talk about Morgan and how she would Rock the LPGA, I'm still waiting to feel the movement.
Paula was talking like she would replace Annika, it ain't happened and Lorena and the Koreans seem like her only threat from the under 25 crowd.
Ai had 12 wins on the Japanese tour, won the LPGA qualifyer and what has she done lately?
I've never heard Michelle say a disparaging remark about anyone and she just quietly finishes ahead of this group of teens in the very few LPGA events she can enter.
If Nancy thinks Michelle should play more on the LPGA tour she should get the LPGA to lift their restrictions on outside the tour players who are under 18. You can't have it both ways Nancy.
We have heard all the talk about Morgan and how she would Rock the LPGA, I'm still waiting to feel the movement.
Paula was talking like she would replace Annika, it ain't happened and Lorena and the Koreans seem like her only threat from the under 25 crowd.
Ai had 12 wins on the Japanese tour, won the LPGA qualifyer and what has she done lately?
I've never heard Michelle say a disparaging remark about anyone and she just quietly finishes ahead of this group of teens in the very few LPGA events she can enter.
If Nancy thinks Michelle should play more on the LPGA tour she should get the LPGA to lift their restrictions on outside the tour players who are under 18. You can't have it both ways Nancy.
2006-04-27 @ 03:04
Poor Nancy Lopez! Now she has One-Putt on her case. But she deserves every bit of it. After all, how many times has she missed a cut in a men's event? None! If she was even close to Miss Wie in ability, she would have had her agent wangle her a few sponsors' exemptions on the PGA tour. Bubbles has it all: Long earrings, a fetching smile, a cast vocabulary, aggressive agents, and an irrepressible stage father. All she needs now is a lot more game and a "W" somewhere on her resume. Don't lose heart, you Wie Warriors! She'll get one eventually.
2006-04-27 @ 07:33
Comment from: HC2 [Visitor]
Guys, this Nancy Lopez - Michelle Wie argument is very simple. It is a matter of just having different philosophies. Nancy belongs to an era where girls wore conservative clothes, smiled all the time, followed the footpaths of their elders, and did it the usual route of rising through the amateur ranks. In other words, she is a traditionalist to the core. Girls are not supposed to play against men; girls are supposed to stay amateur until 18. That is how she did it, and that is the only way she knows of how success is achieved.
The disadvantage of the traditionalist view is that anyone who succeeds following this path, will become a celebrity/well known/praised for only by golf fans because quite simply it is a boring path. They will be little known outside the golf world. Remember golf, especially women's golf, is not among the most watched sports in the US or in the world. So, good women golfers are most likely to be known only by serious golf fans.
In contrast, Michelle is a nontraditionalist who wants to go against the grain to see how far her potential will take her beyond golf. I just do not see Michelle dedicating 25 or so years solely to the LPGA the way Nancy Lopez did. That would bore her to death quite honestly!
She would rather have a shorter career like 10 or 15 years where she could achieve such things as: be a trailblazer in women's sports, someone who appeals to golfers and nongolfers alike; youngest to win a women's major,first woman to play a men's major, first woman to make a men's pga tour cut in decades; be among the few women trailblazers who combine sports with celebrity outside sports; be a role model to all kids; and not just golfing kids.
So neither Michelle nor Nancy is right or wrong. I do think however, that it is presumptuous for one group to say that 'my way' is right and 'your way' is wrong.
The disadvantage of the traditionalist view is that anyone who succeeds following this path, will become a celebrity/well known/praised for only by golf fans because quite simply it is a boring path. They will be little known outside the golf world. Remember golf, especially women's golf, is not among the most watched sports in the US or in the world. So, good women golfers are most likely to be known only by serious golf fans.
In contrast, Michelle is a nontraditionalist who wants to go against the grain to see how far her potential will take her beyond golf. I just do not see Michelle dedicating 25 or so years solely to the LPGA the way Nancy Lopez did. That would bore her to death quite honestly!
She would rather have a shorter career like 10 or 15 years where she could achieve such things as: be a trailblazer in women's sports, someone who appeals to golfers and nongolfers alike; youngest to win a women's major,first woman to play a men's major, first woman to make a men's pga tour cut in decades; be among the few women trailblazers who combine sports with celebrity outside sports; be a role model to all kids; and not just golfing kids.
So neither Michelle nor Nancy is right or wrong. I do think however, that it is presumptuous for one group to say that 'my way' is right and 'your way' is wrong.
2006-04-27 @ 15:30
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
Since Babe Zaharias, Michelle Wie is only the second female to bring golf to the awareness of the general public. Like Michelle Wie this golfer played against much older players when she was a girl. Like Michelle Wie, this golfer followed a nontraditional path and achieved great success at a young age. This golfer was Nancy Lopez, and Michelle Wie is simply following a variation of the nontraditional path that Nancy followed when she was young.
Tremendous fame appears to have had a detrimental effect on Nsncy Lopez's golf career. She won 9 times as rookie of the year and 8 times the following year. With a start like that her 49 career wins seems a lot less than one might expect. Her traditionalism may to some extent be a desire on her part to protect young golfers from being overwhelmed the way she was--but as far as Michelle Wie is concerned, that horse has been out of the barn for a long time now.
Tremendous fame appears to have had a detrimental effect on Nsncy Lopez's golf career. She won 9 times as rookie of the year and 8 times the following year. With a start like that her 49 career wins seems a lot less than one might expect. Her traditionalism may to some extent be a desire on her part to protect young golfers from being overwhelmed the way she was--but as far as Michelle Wie is concerned, that horse has been out of the barn for a long time now.
2006-04-27 @ 22:03
Jim C, BJ Wie is that part of the horse that should be left in the barn.
2006-04-28 @ 07:45
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Alex, document for us the things that BJ Wie has done that has everyone so pissed off.
Not your imagined items, but documented items that are provable.
A number of people are guessing that Michelles career is a product of BJ Wie' pushing her to make the career, but where is the proof?
He has been accused of being a stage father. Show us some substance rather than imagination please.
And before you get your knickers in a bunch, I really would like to know why everyone is so upset at him. So give us chapter and verse please.
Not your imagined items, but documented items that are provable.
A number of people are guessing that Michelles career is a product of BJ Wie' pushing her to make the career, but where is the proof?
He has been accused of being a stage father. Show us some substance rather than imagination please.
And before you get your knickers in a bunch, I really would like to know why everyone is so upset at him. So give us chapter and verse please.
2006-04-28 @ 09:01
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
You don't really expect Alex or the rest of the Wie Haters to bore you with the facts do you P4P? That would be impossible since they have none.
Their arguments are not based on any hard evidence or a personal knowledge of the facts, they present their case based only on opinion and prejudice. Not a very compelling case in any court, including the court of public opinion.
They might ask themselves why Michelle's name appears in nearly every story, byline or interview by a golf reporter. It is not because of BJ Wie, it is simply the fast track to having the story published around the world. You want hits, simply drop Michelle's name into the article somewhere and it is picked up across the globe. This forum is a prime example.
Google News Hits on Michelle today: 2,190
Morgan: 697
Paula: 1,300
Annika: 2,760
Nancy Lopez: 343
Dakoda: 606
Natalie: 901
Christie Kerr (leading the Ginn): 21
These are the facts and Michelle is not even playing this week.
Their arguments are not based on any hard evidence or a personal knowledge of the facts, they present their case based only on opinion and prejudice. Not a very compelling case in any court, including the court of public opinion.
They might ask themselves why Michelle's name appears in nearly every story, byline or interview by a golf reporter. It is not because of BJ Wie, it is simply the fast track to having the story published around the world. You want hits, simply drop Michelle's name into the article somewhere and it is picked up across the globe. This forum is a prime example.
Google News Hits on Michelle today: 2,190
Morgan: 697
Paula: 1,300
Annika: 2,760
Nancy Lopez: 343
Dakoda: 606
Natalie: 901
Christie Kerr (leading the Ginn): 21
These are the facts and Michelle is not even playing this week.
2006-04-28 @ 10:35
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Aww, One-Putt, you went and let the little weasle off easy, lol.
But really, I am interested in any "Facts", not conjecture as to how everyone figures the BJ and Bo have pushed their daughter to a golf career.
I see this same charge, time and again, on many forums and golf blogs.
t the moment, I have found no incontrovertible proof that they have been "stage parents".
Just vague suggestions from questionable sources. Believe me, Chip Baldwin is no believable source of information.
Why call him Chip? Because he seems to have a large chip on each shoulder named Michelle Wie.
Maybe we can start calling Alex chipoff?
But really, I am interested in any "Facts", not conjecture as to how everyone figures the BJ and Bo have pushed their daughter to a golf career.
I see this same charge, time and again, on many forums and golf blogs.
t the moment, I have found no incontrovertible proof that they have been "stage parents".
Just vague suggestions from questionable sources. Believe me, Chip Baldwin is no believable source of information.
Why call him Chip? Because he seems to have a large chip on each shoulder named Michelle Wie.
Maybe we can start calling Alex chipoff?
2006-04-28 @ 11:05
putt4par, Your middle name is spelled "weasel", not "weasle." As far as "little" goes, the only things on this blog that qualify are your IQ and your flaccid male appendage.
2006-04-28 @ 13:07
Comment from: Stacy Solomon [Visitor]
Alex, please maintain your decorum and stick to comments about Michelle Wie or I will have to start editing your comments.
Thank you.
Thank you.
2006-04-28 @ 13:16
Stacy, sorry about that. I'm sure that your threat to commence editing also applies to the Wie Warriors who initiate such retorts by referring to Wie skeptics as "weasle"(sic) and (on other threads) as rejects, retards and the like. I have no such feelings about any of the Wie Worshippers, As far as I'm concerned, you and the other Wie sycophants have just been drinking too much of the Koolaid and are incurable
2006-04-28 @ 14:15
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Alex the attorney, AKA; Cynthia McKinney, Howard Dean, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and of course Al Franken.
The message might be different, but the tone of the rhetoric and expected result are still the same. Be repulsive and annoying enough until you confuse someone into believing your nonsense.
Alex must be testing his message and delivery style before a run for public office as the newest democratic shrill.
The message might be different, but the tone of the rhetoric and expected result are still the same. Be repulsive and annoying enough until you confuse someone into believing your nonsense.
Alex must be testing his message and delivery style before a run for public office as the newest democratic shrill.
2006-04-28 @ 14:42
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
I am absolutely amazed, Alex. Out of that post, the only thing you could comment about was "weasle". I was so certain you would that I mispelled it as well. I could have called you and ermine but that would have lent too much weight to your ponderous opinion of yourself.
Now, please answer some of the questions that have been posed.
Like where is your evidence that MWs parents have or are orchestrating her direction in her career or that BJ is the sole arbiter of the "hype" machine as is so often claimed.
I really would like to hear about this.
Now, please answer some of the questions that have been posed.
Like where is your evidence that MWs parents have or are orchestrating her direction in her career or that BJ is the sole arbiter of the "hype" machine as is so often claimed.
I really would like to hear about this.
2006-04-28 @ 14:50
Putt4par, No persons other than Miss Wie'e parents, to wit BJ Wie, have the legal authority to hire the agents, handlers and the PR and law firms that are instrumental in the incessant hype surrounding this 16 year old. I personally witnessed BJ last year at the Publinks cheerleading Michelle on while violating many of the unwritten rules of golf etiquette while making a general fool of himself. He complained loudly and long when she was correctly DQ'ed last October. Do any of you Wie fans really believe that when Miss Wie was 13, without any prodding or buttonholing from BJ and her agents, the news media and tournament sponsors had a group epiphany and decided that Michelle was the salvation of the game? Come on , guys, these things don't just happen. They are ORCHESTRATED. Most people have realized this for years. If you guys didn't know this before, now you do.
2006-04-28 @ 15:48
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Alex, Alex.... I asked for fact, not opinion, not your take or spin on what you think you saw. But fact as in reports by people who can verify what you are saying. If you can verify that, then I'll have to believe you.
But with as much rhetoric and the outrageous gas you often pass for fact, you'll have to forgive me if I am not quite there in the belief department.
As for complaining loud and long when she was DQ'd... I never saw anyone report anything other than that the Wies were very repsectful of all officials. Now you tell us a different story?
Give us a link to a news story (other than Baldwin and company) that confirms this tale of yours.
Until then, just give us FACTS not your fantasy.
As far as the hype is concerned, you cannot have hype without the complicity of the media. And no amount of chin music from the Wies will buy Hype unless there is a good reason to hype the product.
You and Chris Baldwin and all the Wie bashers are what keeps the Hype alive.
So pat yourself on the back and congratulate Chris for being so attentive to BJ Wies Hype machine.
But with as much rhetoric and the outrageous gas you often pass for fact, you'll have to forgive me if I am not quite there in the belief department.
As for complaining loud and long when she was DQ'd... I never saw anyone report anything other than that the Wies were very repsectful of all officials. Now you tell us a different story?
Give us a link to a news story (other than Baldwin and company) that confirms this tale of yours.
Until then, just give us FACTS not your fantasy.
As far as the hype is concerned, you cannot have hype without the complicity of the media. And no amount of chin music from the Wies will buy Hype unless there is a good reason to hype the product.
You and Chris Baldwin and all the Wie bashers are what keeps the Hype alive.
So pat yourself on the back and congratulate Chris for being so attentive to BJ Wies Hype machine.
2006-04-28 @ 20:16
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
Doesn't golf have enough written rules to worry about? With all that has been written about golf it seems to me that any rule that has never been written down is not something anyone should worry about. Did one of those unwritten rules state that even if she could qualify for the APL just like everyone else it is still a violation for a female to play?
2006-04-28 @ 20:29
Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
Alex, I feel your pain. You are surrounded by Wie supporters-- clearly outnumbered and outclassed as far as golfing Knowledge and facts go. You gotta get your buddy, under par, back. Well, one area you can argue back is Wie's exemptions for those PGA tournaments (John Deer and Lumber). You can argue that she is taking spots --- 2 to be exact-- that would otherwise go to 2 wannabe PGA members who are too lazy and/or untalented to qualify on their own merits and hard work. She is not a PGA quality yet. While I personally believe that she needs to play some PGA tournaments for her own improvement, there is an undeniable gimmicky quality to her PGA efforts and it must drive those spoiled PGA players mad to play second fiddle in their own tounaments. While I find it amusing, I am sure they don't. So, if you keep emphasizing that Wie can't yet cut it in a PGA tournament, I think you can hold the Wie supporters back a bit. I am afraid that time is not on your side. I think she will soon win a LPGA tournament and make a Men's tour cut. So, good luck and keep up your fight, "a verbal diarrhea" as putt4par so unkindly put it. I am afraid I have a rather visual mind. I had thought it a gift, but now I know it to be a curse. -- any image of unformed or half baked sewage spewing out uncontrollably is really not too pleasant, is it?? LOL
2006-04-29 @ 00:13
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
Alex,
You are delusional as always...
Even Michael Bamberger the SI reporter who reported Wie to be disqualified(a day too late IMO ) told reporters that the Wie's could not have been more respectful, and he could not say enough about the classy way in which Michelle and her family handled it.
If you actually were important enough to worry about, you could easily have a defamation lawsuit on your hands with all these nutty accusations.
Ditto for Baldie's columns but I guess why bother refuting claims of a couple of insecure emasculated fools.
2006-04-29 @ 06:45
Kyle, You casually mentioned "defamation lawsuit" in your post. As an attorney, I'd like to know what branch of law is your field of expertise. Mine is corporate law, therefore I have very little experience in civil tort law, and none with regards to libel and or slander. As an aside, there is no point in your using terms like delusional and insecure, emasculated fools to describe people you do not know except by internet blogs. For all you know, my postings as well as those of Chris Baldwin might well be simply for the sake of creating an adversarial climate, one that would include some diversity as to the potential greatness of Bubbles. Haven't any of you Wie Warriors ever heard of playing "devil's advocate?" I figure that you fellows and girls will eventually implode when Miss Wie fails to live up to her advance billing, but please don't start so soon. Incidentally Kyle, there have been several state appellate and Supreme Court rulings that very little, virtually nothing posted on internet blogs such as this is actionable.
2006-04-29 @ 09:00
One-Putt, I thoroughly enjoy what I consider the light hearted banter going on between us. For the most part, you are knowledgeable about what you post. Your last post on this thread is proof positive that one should never draw conclusions from reading internet blogs. Your assessment of my political tendencies couldn't be more wrong. In fact, my politics are diametrically, 180 degrees, opposes to your take. As my sons-in-law like to say, I'm "three miles to the right of Genghis Khan." At my age, I'm not much for hero worship anymore, but I have a few: David Shoup, Lewis"Chesty" Puller, "Howling Mad" Smith, and "Manila John" Basilone, Semper Fideles.
2006-04-29 @ 10:03
Comment from: David [Visitor]
The main reason why Wie-lovers are always so angry is because Michelle's two main rivals, Paula Creamer and Morgan Pressel, have both achieved more than she has.
(Except for the fact that Michelle was offered a set of sickeningly large endorsement deals due to the excellent way in which she has been marketed for the last couple of years.)
(Except for the fact that Michelle was offered a set of sickeningly large endorsement deals due to the excellent way in which she has been marketed for the last couple of years.)
2006-04-29 @ 11:33
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
I have to agree with Alex on tis one, Kyle.
Anonymous posters threatenting libel and defamation on another anonymous poster?? Hehehe, that'd look great in a court.
I can see it already. Alex in a grey cowl and long black robe, blazing red eyes peeing at the judge from one side while Kyle stands on the opposites side of the court, in his wisp form, no real shape or substance but making loud huffy noises as the judge laughs at the documents on his desk.
Damn, that might just be the makings of a good tv comedy, lol.
Sorry Kyle, the scene is just too funny.
Anonymous posters threatenting libel and defamation on another anonymous poster?? Hehehe, that'd look great in a court.
I can see it already. Alex in a grey cowl and long black robe, blazing red eyes peeing at the judge from one side while Kyle stands on the opposites side of the court, in his wisp form, no real shape or substance but making loud huffy noises as the judge laughs at the documents on his desk.
Damn, that might just be the makings of a good tv comedy, lol.
Sorry Kyle, the scene is just too funny.
2006-04-29 @ 12:59
putt4par, The funniest part would be those "red eyes PEEING at he judge.":-)
2006-04-29 @ 14:54
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
One-Putt, I thoroughly enjoy what I consider the light hearted banter going on between us. For the most part, you are knowledgeable about what you post. Your last post on this thread is proof positive that one should never draw conclusions from reading internet blogs. Your assessment of my political tendencies couldn't be more wrong. In fact, my politics are diametrically, 180 degrees, opposes to your take. As my sons-in-law like to say, I'm "three miles to the right of Genghis Khan." At my age, I'm not much for hero worship anymore, but I have a few: David Shoup, Lewis"Chesty" Puller, "Howling Mad" Smith, and "Manila John" Basilone, Semper Fideles."
OK Alex, "If it walks like a Duck...........".
But if you insist, I will mark you down as a Compassionate Christian Conservative like myself, but one who has simply "fallen off the wagon".
Most athletes who rise to the top of their game have parents supporting them along the way. Perhaps you forgot the effort Earl put into promoting Tiger along the way. Recall the Tonight Show appearance when he was four years old?
I think everyone will be surprised how much Michelle had a say in what happened to her in the past, now and on into the future. She is simply living her dreams in front of the entire world.
Michelle is one of those rare young women who have become Cold Fusion for the media and the public at large. Don't underestimate what this girl will do with her life or how many of her dreams will become reality. She is definitely not your "typical" sixteen year old.
One-Putt, I thoroughly enjoy what I consider the light hearted banter going on between us. For the most part, you are knowledgeable about what you post. Your last post on this thread is proof positive that one should never draw conclusions from reading internet blogs. Your assessment of my political tendencies couldn't be more wrong. In fact, my politics are diametrically, 180 degrees, opposes to your take. As my sons-in-law like to say, I'm "three miles to the right of Genghis Khan." At my age, I'm not much for hero worship anymore, but I have a few: David Shoup, Lewis"Chesty" Puller, "Howling Mad" Smith, and "Manila John" Basilone, Semper Fideles."
OK Alex, "If it walks like a Duck...........".
But if you insist, I will mark you down as a Compassionate Christian Conservative like myself, but one who has simply "fallen off the wagon".
Most athletes who rise to the top of their game have parents supporting them along the way. Perhaps you forgot the effort Earl put into promoting Tiger along the way. Recall the Tonight Show appearance when he was four years old?
I think everyone will be surprised how much Michelle had a say in what happened to her in the past, now and on into the future. She is simply living her dreams in front of the entire world.
Michelle is one of those rare young women who have become Cold Fusion for the media and the public at large. Don't underestimate what this girl will do with her life or how many of her dreams will become reality. She is definitely not your "typical" sixteen year old.
2006-04-29 @ 15:09
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
OMG, I missed that blooper. Yep, eyes like that really would have an audience in stitches.
One-putt, considering how she tells her father what to do and when to do it, I have the feeling that her choices are definitly her own, lol.
That is one strong willed and very centered young lady.
Wish we had lots more like her in the world.
One-putt, considering how she tells her father what to do and when to do it, I have the feeling that her choices are definitly her own, lol.
That is one strong willed and very centered young lady.
Wish we had lots more like her in the world.
2006-04-29 @ 16:30
If there were lots more like her, then she would be a "typical" 16 year old. Would the Wie fans really want that?
2006-04-29 @ 18:05
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
If there were lots more like her, then she would be a "typical" 16 year old. Would the Wie fans really want that?
Well this Golf fan likes the fact that each player is unique in their own right. That is what makes the game exciting to play and watch. If the fans wanted to see Robots, the Japanese would already have put them in play.
If there were lots more like her, then she would be a "typical" 16 year old. Would the Wie fans really want that?
Well this Golf fan likes the fact that each player is unique in their own right. That is what makes the game exciting to play and watch. If the fans wanted to see Robots, the Japanese would already have put them in play.
2006-04-29 @ 19:41
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Michelle had an overwhelming reception on her arrival in Korea yesterday morning and is due to throw out the first ball at a Korean Professional baseball game today.
Tomorrow is a scheduled morning practice round at Sky 72 and then a tour of several hospitals around Seoul to visit children in the afternoon.
Also scheduled, but not confirmed, is a reception at The Blue House, the official residence of the President of South Korea in the evening.
Tomorrow is a scheduled morning practice round at Sky 72 and then a tour of several hospitals around Seoul to visit children in the afternoon.
Also scheduled, but not confirmed, is a reception at The Blue House, the official residence of the President of South Korea in the evening.
2006-04-29 @ 20:20
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
Putt4Par,
My point was that you cannot just carelessly say
"I was there and I saw BJ Wie do such and such...".
Or "I saw Michelle Wie do ..." which is what Alex is doing. Does anyone really believe that he was there and saw all these things? With all his delusional rantings , I highly doubt it. Nothing will come of it I'm sure -I'm just saying people have to be responsible about accusing others of whatever you better have the proof to back it up. Alex obviously does not.
My point was that you cannot just carelessly say
"I was there and I saw BJ Wie do such and such...".
Or "I saw Michelle Wie do ..." which is what Alex is doing. Does anyone really believe that he was there and saw all these things? With all his delusional rantings , I highly doubt it. Nothing will come of it I'm sure -I'm just saying people have to be responsible about accusing others of whatever you better have the proof to back it up. Alex obviously does not.
2006-04-30 @ 09:12
One-Putt, Since you obviously know more about Miss Wie and her foibles than anyone else on this board, maybe you can answer this question which I believe is important. Michelle's latest trip to her homeland will require her to miss about eight days of school. Later this fall, she will miss another week when she goes to the 84 Lumber in Pennsylvania. Over the last three years she has missed a lot of her classes due to the requirements of her amateur(?) and now professional career. How does she manage the exigencies of her global golf career with those of her school work? You and others have flatly stated that she is a lead pipe cinch to be accepted to a prestigious university like Stanford where she is certain to excel. Does she have a private tutor who accompanies her entourage on these global treks? Does she hit the books, burn the midnight oil to keep abreast of her college preparatory studies? Two of my offspring were attending private Catholic high school when they were to attend the funeral of their grandfather in another state. They were gone for two days.It took some serious talking to get the principal to agree that this would not be considered unexcused absence. They both said they missed quite a bit in the two days. Seriously, how can she miss so much school and still get the grades that she purportedly does? Inquiring minds want to know.
2006-04-30 @ 09:20
Kyle, As a matter of fact, I did watch much of Miss Wie's second round of medal play at ladt year's US Men's Public Links event. As I recall she scored something like 74 and was outside the natch play cut line of 64 when she finished. However, the remainder of the field also was backing up and eventually I think she qualified 57th. BJ Wie was vocally exhorting his daughter the entire time I was watching, many times while the other players were hitting. Much of his exhortation was in Korean and the rest was unintelligible. But it did happen. His most egregious abrogations of golfing etiquette were his walking around, talking, and even laughing while the other players were putting. Not surprisingly, he went dead silent when it was Michelle's turh to putt. Kyle, I go to several tour events every year. On June 1 my wife and I will attend our fourth consecutive Memorial in Columbus. We are also tentatively planning on going to Cog Hill and Grand Blanc. Tens of thousands of people will also attend. There is nothing at all unusual about a 60 year old man and his wife being spectators at a golf tournament. Kyle, please don't take this as an insult, but my take on your postings is that you haven't been to very many places or had too much life experience. My guess is that you are 25 years old or less.
2006-04-30 @ 09:56
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
I think you assume too much Alex--you're way off in your guesses about me.
If you didn't understand what he was saying how do you know BJ Wie was "vocally exhorting" his daughter. If you truly have been to very many places you should know that different languages have various inflections which may strike those unfamiliar with the language as harsh when in actuality it was something quite tame.
In addition if you are indeed telling the truth, there is always a huge contingent of press that follows Michelle around-funny only you noticed these objectionable behaviors.
2006-04-30 @ 14:06
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Alex my blog mate, as an International Goodwill Ambassador representing her Nation of birth the United States of America, Michelle is simply cementing the relationship between the Republic of Korea and our Country. When she returns to school Alex she will give a report to the other children on the trip to her PARENTS native land and of course recieve extra credit.
Alex when was the last time you hung out and played a round with a US Ex-President, a US Secretary of State or the elected leader of a democratic foreign country? Her application to Stanford will be very strong indeed when compared to the accomplishments of other high school students who apply:
-World Class Athlete known around the planet
-International Ambassador of Goodwill representing the United States of America
-World Renowned Philanthropist
-Speaks three foreign languages
-Fabulously wealthy at fifteen
-Six feet tall and beautiful
Time to have a reality check Alex, your envy and bitterness have clouded your mind. Believe me Alex, Stanford has the door wide open for this gal.
Alex when was the last time you hung out and played a round with a US Ex-President, a US Secretary of State or the elected leader of a democratic foreign country? Her application to Stanford will be very strong indeed when compared to the accomplishments of other high school students who apply:
-World Class Athlete known around the planet
-International Ambassador of Goodwill representing the United States of America
-World Renowned Philanthropist
-Speaks three foreign languages
-Fabulously wealthy at fifteen
-Six feet tall and beautiful
Time to have a reality check Alex, your envy and bitterness have clouded your mind. Believe me Alex, Stanford has the door wide open for this gal.
2006-04-30 @ 15:15
One-Putt, You didn't answer my question. But then, I didn't expect that you would. I am not aware that I was the subject of this blog. All that you said was nice , complimentary to Miss Wie, but extraneous as to the subject at hand. Again, how does Miss Wie maintain her allegedly high GPA when she is absent so much from school? Come on, O-P, you know everything else about her, what's her secret? And again, I'm serious. Please don't reply as to what I've done or haven't done. It's not about me.
2006-04-30 @ 20:42
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
As an aside.... I wonder why this article (Korean golfer Michelle Wie shows charity in her homeland ) is now missing? Hmmm? roflmao, way to go, WKW.
http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/william.wolfrum/2006/04/26/korean_golfer_michelle_wie_shows_charity
http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/william.wolfrum/2006/04/26/korean_golfer_michelle_wie_shows_charity
2006-04-30 @ 22:10
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
Putt4Par,
My point was that you cannot just carelessly say
"I was there and I saw BJ Wie do such and such...".
Or "I saw Michelle Wie do ..." which is what Alex is doing. Does anyone really believe that he was there and saw all these things? With all his delusional rantings , I highly doubt it. Nothing will come of it I'm sure -I'm just saying people have to be responsible about accusing others of whatever you better have the proof to back it up. Alex obviously does not.
au contraire , mon ami !!! According to many sources i have queried, the sort of thing that is being spouted here in these blogs is not subject to those kind of rules.
In order to be held legally responsible, you wold have to make accusation, names, dates and circumstances. Correct me if I am wrong, Alex.
and the accuser would need to be readily identifiable. What Alex was doing was giving an observation. Probably wrong interpretation but what the heck, he's old and nearly blind anyway... (snicker) which is why his wife leads him around the course so he won't get lost.
Haha, sorry Alex, couldn't resist.
Putt4Par,
My point was that you cannot just carelessly say
"I was there and I saw BJ Wie do such and such...".
Or "I saw Michelle Wie do ..." which is what Alex is doing. Does anyone really believe that he was there and saw all these things? With all his delusional rantings , I highly doubt it. Nothing will come of it I'm sure -I'm just saying people have to be responsible about accusing others of whatever you better have the proof to back it up. Alex obviously does not.
au contraire , mon ami !!! According to many sources i have queried, the sort of thing that is being spouted here in these blogs is not subject to those kind of rules.
In order to be held legally responsible, you wold have to make accusation, names, dates and circumstances. Correct me if I am wrong, Alex.
and the accuser would need to be readily identifiable. What Alex was doing was giving an observation. Probably wrong interpretation but what the heck, he's old and nearly blind anyway... (snicker) which is why his wife leads him around the course so he won't get lost.
Haha, sorry Alex, couldn't resist.
2006-04-30 @ 22:20
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
One-Putt, You didn't answer my question. But then, I didn't expect that you would. I am not aware that I was the subject of this blog. All that you said was nice , complimentary to Miss Wie, but extraneous as to the subject at hand. Again, how does Miss Wie maintain her allegedly high GPA when she is absent so much from school? Come on, O-P, you know everything else about her, what's her secret? And again, I'm serious. Please don't reply as to what I've done or haven't done. It's not about me.
Michelle is allowed two weeks absence a semester to play golf. One week for the Fields, the Kraft was over spring break and now the SK which will use up her excused absences. She is required to keep up with her assignments and stay prepared for class when she returns. This has not been a problem for Michelle for more than three years.
Morgan Pressel on the other hand is attending her final semester in high school by correspondence with her teachers. She really likes the teacher who includes the test with her homework, so she can take the test on the honor system.
At least these girls are making an effort to complete their education requirements.
It looks like Michelle might be thinking of taking on another sport:
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200604/200604300001.html
Congrats go out to Michelle for being named a Time Magazine 100 Most Influential People in the World.
This should look good on her Stanford application Alex.
Cold Fusion!!!!!!!!
One-Putt, You didn't answer my question. But then, I didn't expect that you would. I am not aware that I was the subject of this blog. All that you said was nice , complimentary to Miss Wie, but extraneous as to the subject at hand. Again, how does Miss Wie maintain her allegedly high GPA when she is absent so much from school? Come on, O-P, you know everything else about her, what's her secret? And again, I'm serious. Please don't reply as to what I've done or haven't done. It's not about me.
Michelle is allowed two weeks absence a semester to play golf. One week for the Fields, the Kraft was over spring break and now the SK which will use up her excused absences. She is required to keep up with her assignments and stay prepared for class when she returns. This has not been a problem for Michelle for more than three years.
Morgan Pressel on the other hand is attending her final semester in high school by correspondence with her teachers. She really likes the teacher who includes the test with her homework, so she can take the test on the honor system.
At least these girls are making an effort to complete their education requirements.
It looks like Michelle might be thinking of taking on another sport:
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200604/200604300001.html
Congrats go out to Michelle for being named a Time Magazine 100 Most Influential People in the World.
This should look good on her Stanford application Alex.
Cold Fusion!!!!!!!!
2006-05-01 @ 03:26
Comment from: jon [Visitor]
Well. Condi Rice was a Provost at Stanford University. Though controversial when she was there, she knows many people in Stanford and the Bay Area. A recommendation/reference from her (at least for driving her around safely in a golf cart), would carry a bit of weight in Michelle's Stanford application. Likewise, a reference from Mr. Clinton for her donation to his Katrina Relief Fund would be helpful. Let's see. If she can get a recommendation from Bush senior to Yale, she might even make the Skulls and Bones Society. Any college would be glad to have her, I think. Even a prep school(high school) looks for those kids who would likely make a mark on society, and she has already done that at 16, with good grades. .... I am done with postings for now. Happy blogging, fellas.
2006-05-01 @ 07:34
putt4par, For once you are correct. Although I have no experience in civil tort law with regard to libel and/or slander, a colleague in my firm with extensive experience in those fields explains it thus: In order for a plaintiff to recover in what kyle calls a "defamation lawsuit", negligence and/or malice and DAMAGES must be proven by the preponderance of evidence. Kyle, you really didn't believe that an old barrister like me would expose himself to a lawsuit, did you?
2006-05-01 @ 12:46
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Jon do you actually think the busiest woman on the planet was out with Michelle just to play nine holes and have her drive a golf cart? Condi's daily schedule is a brutal 12 to 16 hours long and planned out to the micro second.
I fear her visit with Michelle was far more serious than just a half round of golf or a letter of recommendation to Stanford.
I fear her visit with Michelle was far more serious than just a half round of golf or a letter of recommendation to Stanford.
2006-05-01 @ 14:37
Logic according to Kyle: He doesn't like the blogs of some anonymous donors so he feels justified in referring to them as "delusional, insecure, emasculated fools, retarded, etc. In the next breath he says that internet critics of Michelle Wie and her stage father should be subject to a "defamation lawsuit", whatever that is. Duplicity at its worst. Irony at its best. Don't you just love it?
2006-05-01 @ 20:20
One-Putt, I think I know the real reason that Miss Wie's agents and handlers wangled that nines holes of golf with Secretary Rice. Michelle was probably maneuvering for a sponsors' exemption to Stanford.
2006-05-02 @ 08:48
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Try to clear your mind Alex and think how ludicrous your statement was.
After your mind has cleared Alex try to recall the times we live in and the threats that surround us.
After your mind has cleared Alex try to recall the times we live in and the threats that surround us.
2006-05-02 @ 14:37
One-Putt, My statement was meant to be ludicrous, whereas your bizarre postings must be serious. I really don't need a lecture about the gravity of the times in which we live. My two sons are still in the USMC reserves and my nephew is a lieutenant in the 4th ID. I myself served in the Corps 1967-1971.
2006-05-02 @ 15:25
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
"Comment from: Alex [Visitor] · http://Alex
One-Putt, My statement was meant to be ludicrous, whereas your bizarre postings must be serious. I really don't need a lecture about the gravity of the times in which we live. My two sons are still in the USMC reserves and my nephew is a lieutenant in the 4th ID. I myself served in the Corps 1967-1971."
You're right Alex, just forget I wrote anything.
ADMIN could you please delete any postings I made in reference to Ms. Rice and her golf outing with Miss Wie?
Thanks in advance.
One-Putt, My statement was meant to be ludicrous, whereas your bizarre postings must be serious. I really don't need a lecture about the gravity of the times in which we live. My two sons are still in the USMC reserves and my nephew is a lieutenant in the 4th ID. I myself served in the Corps 1967-1971."
You're right Alex, just forget I wrote anything.
ADMIN could you please delete any postings I made in reference to Ms. Rice and her golf outing with Miss Wie?
Thanks in advance.
2006-05-03 @ 05:05
One-Putt, I looked up the number of players and quality of the field at the Sk Telecom. Of the 154 golfers entered, the only name I recognized beside that of Michelle Wie was K. J. Choi. Of course, 96 of the players are Korean with about 80% of them sharing the surnames of Park, Kim, Lee, Chung, and Choi. KJ was listed as one of 13 US golfers. If the cut line is the same as in PGA events, I'd say that Miss Wie is about a 2 to 1 shot to make the cut. If I can find a line on the internet gaming sites that is close to 2 to 1, I'll make a small wager on your idol.
2006-05-03 @ 12:54
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
I noticed 14 countries were represented besides Korea and the USA. The largest foreign contingent is from Austrailian Asian Tour members.
JEEV MILKHA SINGH is someone to watch from India. This guy has played very well lately.
JEEV MILKHA SINGH is someone to watch from India. This guy has played very well lately.
2006-05-03 @ 14:39
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Wi, Sung Mi is listed as having a 6:59 start from the 10th tee. For realtime scoring go here:
http://eng.koreapga.com/Tour/hot_01.asp?OPEN_YEAR=2006&TOUR_DIV=11&TOMT_CLSS=0005&TOMT_TIME=00
Event main site:
http://golf.sktelecom.com/english/greeting_10th.asp
http://eng.koreapga.com/Tour/hot_01.asp?OPEN_YEAR=2006&TOUR_DIV=11&TOMT_CLSS=0005&TOMT_TIME=00
Event main site:
http://golf.sktelecom.com/english/greeting_10th.asp
2006-05-03 @ 14:47
Comment from: Jim Nugent [Visitor]
Stacy said Wie could beat most PGA players on any given day. Well, she did beat Vijay in the second round at the Sony this year. Her 68 was the 10th best round that day. She made 7 birdies. Stacy has already been proven right.
You guys who think it is impossible for this 16 year old girl to some day win on the PGA tour are crazy. She already has beaten nearly half of them twice -- at the ripe old ages of 14 and 15. She already has done way better on the tour than Tiger did, when he was 16, 17 and 18.
You guys who think it is impossible for this 16 year old girl to some day win on the PGA tour are crazy. She already has beaten nearly half of them twice -- at the ripe old ages of 14 and 15. She already has done way better on the tour than Tiger did, when he was 16, 17 and 18.
2006-05-05 @ 12:38
Thank you Jim! I'm really glad that Michelle Wie is showing what she's made of and kicking butt this week!
I'm thrilled to see that a 16-year-old girl is showing the "experienced" male golfers the ropes. ;-)
I'm thrilled to see that a 16-year-old girl is showing the "experienced" male golfers the ropes. ;-)
2006-05-05 @ 14:54
Jim Nugent:
"You guys who think it is impossible for this 16 year old girl to some day win on the PGA tour are crazy. She already has beaten nearly half of them twice -- at the ripe old ages of 14 and 15. She already has done way better on the tour than Tiger did, when he was 16, 17 and 18."
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I have to believe what's eating into Alex, is the fact, that his hero, Tiger Woods never made the men's cut until he was 19 years old.
I'd put Michelle's Amature accomplishment up against Tiger's any day.
"You guys who think it is impossible for this 16 year old girl to some day win on the PGA tour are crazy. She already has beaten nearly half of them twice -- at the ripe old ages of 14 and 15. She already has done way better on the tour than Tiger did, when he was 16, 17 and 18."
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I have to believe what's eating into Alex, is the fact, that his hero, Tiger Woods never made the men's cut until he was 19 years old.
I'd put Michelle's Amature accomplishment up against Tiger's any day.
2006-05-06 @ 00:40
Stacy :" Thank you Jim! I'm really glad that Michelle Wie is showing what she's made of and kicking butt this week!
I'm thrilled to see that a 16-year-old girl is showing the "experienced" male golfers the ropes. ;-)"
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Gurl Power!
Unfortunately, some men cannot deal with the fact a young girl is kicking their butt!
Deal with it!
I'm thrilled to see that a 16-year-old girl is showing the "experienced" male golfers the ropes. ;-)"
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Gurl Power!
Unfortunately, some men cannot deal with the fact a young girl is kicking their butt!
Deal with it!
2006-05-06 @ 00:48
Comment from: Jim Nugent [Visitor]
Stacy, I agree with you completely about Wie. She beat nearly half the PGA pro's twice, before she was 16. She proved she was among the elite U.S. men amateurs in the country at age 15, going to the quarters of a major USGA men's adult event.
Wie makes a ton of birdies. That is critical in evaluating her future. When she gets her game organized better, the sky is the limit. (I think the 15 or 20 extra yards she wants will come as a matter of course.)
Annika, IMO, is a different matter. I doubt she can play with the PGA men. At Colonial she played that first round as well as she could. Perfect ball striking: she hit almost every fairway and every green. Still did not match par. After that, reality caught up with her.
Wie has a big enough game for the men. Annika does not. She is real real short on the men's tour, while her putting and short game would also rank near the bottom. That is a deadly combination. Maybe most important of all, Annika has no desire to play against the men.
Wie makes a ton of birdies. That is critical in evaluating her future. When she gets her game organized better, the sky is the limit. (I think the 15 or 20 extra yards she wants will come as a matter of course.)
Annika, IMO, is a different matter. I doubt she can play with the PGA men. At Colonial she played that first round as well as she could. Perfect ball striking: she hit almost every fairway and every green. Still did not match par. After that, reality caught up with her.
Wie has a big enough game for the men. Annika does not. She is real real short on the men's tour, while her putting and short game would also rank near the bottom. That is a deadly combination. Maybe most important of all, Annika has no desire to play against the men.
2006-05-06 @ 05:24
Sorenstam is still the world's best female golfer. Can others knock her off her pedestal? In time, I'm sure.
We can only wait and see if Michelle Wie's name stands the test of time.
We can only wait and see if Michelle Wie's name stands the test of time.
2006-05-09 @ 10:36
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
Michelle may never achieve the records that Annika has. Mostly because I don't believe she will stay around the game as long as Annika.
Wie is a girl that likes her challenges. After she has achieved her goals, climbed her mountains, why would she want to work on someone elses records. I think she'll just look at Annkas records and say "someones been there, done that. Let me climb fresh new peaks and let everyone else follow."
She's like a skier that goes heli-skiing because of the fresh unmarked snow. Wheres the challenge of following someone else.
At least thats my take on Michelle Wie.
Wie is a girl that likes her challenges. After she has achieved her goals, climbed her mountains, why would she want to work on someone elses records. I think she'll just look at Annkas records and say "someones been there, done that. Let me climb fresh new peaks and let everyone else follow."
She's like a skier that goes heli-skiing because of the fresh unmarked snow. Wheres the challenge of following someone else.
At least thats my take on Michelle Wie.
2006-05-09 @ 10:44
Comment from: Jim Nugent [Visitor]
Annika is the best woman golfer on LPGA courses. I don't believe she is the best on longer courses, though. Wie is.
Annika really was out of her league at the Colonial. She played her best, could not break par, made maybe one birdie (?), and finished almost dead last. Michelle has made tons of birdies, broken par, shot several rounds in the 60's, and beat nearly half the field twice.
Seems clear to me who is better on those courses.
Annika really was out of her league at the Colonial. She played her best, could not break par, made maybe one birdie (?), and finished almost dead last. Michelle has made tons of birdies, broken par, shot several rounds in the 60's, and beat nearly half the field twice.
Seems clear to me who is better on those courses.
2006-05-09 @ 14:31
Comment from: FY Lindsey [Visitor]
Perhaps Morgan Pressel can focus on winning some real golf tournaments, and less on opening her big mouth to criticize Michelle Wie, or behaving like Anna Kournikova of Tennis, all fashion and no win. In sports, when losers criticized the winners, it is a demonstration of "jealousy". Please, Ms. Pressel, speak only with your golf club and real win, not with your fashion or mouth.
2006-06-11 @ 14:13
WHOOPEE she can hit a golf ball, last I heard she hasn't won a tournament in 3 years. Tiger doesn't win in a couple months and he's in a real slump. Great marketing, poor results as far as accomplishment. As Tiger stated when he came on tour, "I did't come out here to come in 2nd".
It seems her handlers are more interested in $$$$'s and less in Michelle accomplishing something worthwhile. A number of pro's have said on more than one occasion, she should concentrate on the LPGA, if for no other reason than to give her a chance at some of the more challenging endeavors she wants to persue after she has gain some seasoning.
It seems her handlers are more interested in $$$$'s and less in Michelle accomplishing something worthwhile. A number of pro's have said on more than one occasion, she should concentrate on the LPGA, if for no other reason than to give her a chance at some of the more challenging endeavors she wants to persue after she has gain some seasoning.
2006-08-10 @ 19:28
Comment from: Jim [Visitor] 
Michelle, had potential to make a mark in Golf. But I think she had been badly directed to play in the number of men's tournaments. It would be different if she had performed well, but the bottom line is that she was an embarassment to ladies golf and perhaps has tarnished the LPGA's image. At least Annika had the sense to put her involvment in her only men's tournament in perspective. I don't know why Michelle has to take a spot on the men's tour and fail miserably. Michelle, I think has potential, but her management team has pushed her too far too quickly. In short, she is competitive, but she is no "Tiger Woods". With Annika, she at at least has earned respect for the men's game. Let's put it this way, if Annika could not make the cut.....what makes Michelle think she can. Michelle better put some wins under her belt and concentrate on competting up with her peers.
2006-10-19 @ 17:12
Comment from: Kostenlos im Internet Pokern [Visitor]
Most athletes who rise to the top of their game have parents supporting them along the way. Perhaps you forgot the effort Earl put into promoting Tiger along the way. Recall the Tonight Show appearance when he was four years oldthe remainder of the field also was backing up and eventually I think she qualified 57th. BJ Wie was vocally exhorting his daughter the entire time I was watching, many times while the other players were hitting. Much of his exhortation was in Korean and the rest was unintelligible. But it did happen. His most egregious abrogations of golfing etiquette were his walking around, talking, and even laughing while the other players were putting. Not surprisingly, he went dead silent when it was Michelle's turh to putt. Kyle, I go to several tour events every year...
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