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Comment from: Jim C [Visitor]
Dot Wong--

Do you know what happened to Wie on 14? On TV and on the internet it had been reported as a bogey 5. Obviously there were two penalty strokes we didn't know about until Wie signed her card. Do you know what the penalty was for?
2006-08-04 @ 13:37
Comment from: Paul W [Visitor]
It's described here:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/golf/08/04/bc.glf.wiepenalized.ap/index.html

Tough break, but that's golf.
2006-08-04 @ 14:05
Comment from: maui john [Visitor]
I noticed the same thing, bummer, she was hanging in there. What I want to know is how did Karrie take 8 shots on a par 3.
2006-08-04 @ 14:06
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
Poor Morgan. She wants to beat Michelle sooooo bad and she can't do it even when Michelle is having her worst start thus far this year (I think)

I do not like her big mouth but I actually now feel sorry for her. She's letting jealousy about Michelle consume her to the point where she's playing really bad golf.

Sometimes you fail when you try too hard and it becomes an obsession. She looks pathetic
2006-08-04 @ 14:17
Comment from: maui john [Visitor]
Yeah, what a bummer for Morgan, she was 7 over for the last 2 holes.
2006-08-04 @ 14:24
Comment from: putt4par [Visitor]
I feel sorry for Karrie. After a great win last week, missing the cut this week has got to hurt a bunch.

And another lesson learned for Michelle. Tough but it's better learned at 16 than to have to learn that lesson a couple years down the road when she is playing full time.

Kathy, what did poor old Morgan do this time? I know she can be prickly when it comes to Michelle but.......
2006-08-04 @ 14:28
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor]
I think Morgan has pretty much gotten over her obsession with Michelle Wie. I guess she just had a couple of bad holes at the end. Nothing to do with Michelle.
2006-08-04 @ 14:37
Comment from: JR [Visitor]
Kathy.... temper, temper.....
2006-08-04 @ 14:52
Comment from: nongolfer [Visitor]
Morgan should be left alone now. She was naiive and I felt that she was used by others around her. She is also inexperienced at this level of play and is getting a taste of performing under watchful eyes. Golfers out there would know better than me if she has the talent.
2006-08-04 @ 15:12
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
JR I didn't lose my temper. Just didn't like her bad mouthing Michelle earlier on espy at last year's Open when she asked if the media was being politically correct in not commenting on Michelle's disastrous final round. That was just so silly and immature.

To her credit she has stopped saying negative stuff (probably with help from her handlers) but you can still hear the envy in her voice when she recently said "Michelle has it made..She doesn't have to play LPGA... She makes more overseas..." which is true of course but you don't hear other players mouthing off

And Jim C I don't think she's over it. She 's still immature and insecure and it can't help her psyche that she plays alongside Natalie Gulbis who looks soooo good and stunningly chic.

Next to fashion plate Natalie (who also has a great personality and says all the right things) Morgan looks sooo frumpy and stumpy and almost drab in her attire . Sorry couldn't resist being catty. I simply do not like Morgan and her personality. And she's never going to be better than Michelle no matter how hard she tries.

2006-08-04 @ 15:26
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
Non golfer, I doubt anybody including her grandparents can make this strong willed young lady do anything she doesn't want to do. She can't even get along with her father. What 13 or 14 year old (then) leaves home because she cannot get along with her father? And gets away with it?

Whatever she says she says on her own. She's better now I believe as I've said above, because she's been told to soften her criticizm of Michelle because it might hurt her marketabilty. And her golf.

I do think though given time she can mature, get her head together and play better golf -hopefully for her own sake
2006-08-04 @ 15:33
Comment from: George [Visitor]
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Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
JR I didn't lose my temper. Just didn't like her bad mouthing Michelle earlier on espy at last year's Open when she asked if the media was being politically correct in not commenting on Michelle's disastrous final round. That was just so silly and immature.

To her credit she has stopped saying negative stuff (probably with help from her handlers) but you can still hear the envy in her voice when she recently said "Michelle has it made..She doesn't have to play LPGA... She makes more overseas..." which is true of course but you don't hear other players mouthing off

And Jim C I don't think she's over it. She 's still immature and insecure and it can't help her psyche that she plays alongside Natalie Gulbis who looks soooo good and stunningly chic.

Next to fashion plate Natalie (who also has a great personality and says all the right things) Morgan looks sooo frumpy and stumpy and almost drab in her attire . Sorry couldn't resist being catty. I simply do not like Morgan and her personality. And she's never going to be better than Michelle no matter how hard she tries.
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Like they told you the first time, Catty, err, Kathy ... temper, temper.

Both your rants, especially the 2nd one, make it plain as day that you've got your hate on for Morgan Pressel for daring to be skeptical of Michelle Wie.

BTW, were any of the Wie Skeptics go off on a tirade, complete with personal attacks, about Michelle Wie such as yours about Morgan Pressel, why we'd never hear the end of it. The silence from the Wie Warriors speaks volumes about their hypocrisy, moreover.

Kathy, you certainly are one of the Wie Warrior loonies. Would you participate in my rolling poll? And it's open to anyone who wants to have some fun.

Who do you think will be first to win their maiden stroke-play victory?
(And don't pitch another fit, Kathy, about Michelle being listed last. It's an alpha list, more or less)


Julieta Granada
Natalie Gulbis
Brittany Lang
Brittany Lincicome
Ai Miyazako
Morgan Pressel
Michelle Wie

2006-08-04 @ 16:11
Comment from: Randy Hebert [Visitor]
This is the rule they penalized Michelle for after her round but before she signed her scorecard:
13-4c. Touch or move a loose impediment lying in or touching the hazard.

She caught a piece of moss in her backswing that was behind her ball and it moved some sand. Eveidently it was caught on TV and by rules officials. Some of these rules are to stringent perhaps. There was no intent to do it and the balls position wasn't improved, but it's a 2 shot penalty nonetheless. The rules are the same for everyone, so she will move on from it and chalk it up to another lessoned learned.
2006-08-04 @ 16:17
Comment from: gpro [Visitor]
Kathy
Have you ever played in a golf tournament? If you think, as you stated, that Pressel took quad and triple because she is jealous of Michelle Wie you show a marked misunderstanding of the game. As far as the rest goes, I suppose Mickelson lost the US Open because he thought Tiger had a nicer looking shirt than he did.
2006-08-04 @ 16:19
Comment from: nongolfer [Visitor]
Okay, thanks for sharing the info. Time will tell what she is made of.
2006-08-04 @ 16:24
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
gpro I wasn't talking about just today but her golf game in general this year. SHe's not done has she?

And your analogy of Tiger/Phil was just silly
2006-08-04 @ 16:28
Comment from: Paul W [Visitor]
I don't think Pressels problems had anything to do with Wie either. However, you have to wonder about her mental toughness to let a great round go bad that fast. I see a lot of people say Pressel "learned how to win" through her amatuer experience and how she is so tough and competitve. I don't see much evidence of it so far this year. Hopefully she'll get better because she clearly has talent.
2006-08-04 @ 16:29
Comment from: Florida Mike [Visitor]
George,
I will pick Michelle too.
2006-08-04 @ 16:35
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
My previous post should read " She's not done anything yet this year has she?"
2006-08-04 @ 16:36
Comment from: gpro [Visitor]
Randy
Another lesson learned?

First she gets DQ'd for a bad drop at Samsung, now she dosn't know you can't touch a loose impediment in a hazard. That is why you carry a rule book, she nees to read it. Maybe on the flight back she can familiarize herself with some of the rules. At this stage of the game, and with a rules official likely following her group, pleading ignorance doesn't cut it.

The only excuse wold be if she didn't feel it or realize that she had touched the moss and the camera showed she did. Take the double hit that occurred in the US Open as an example.
2006-08-04 @ 16:37
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
Good on you Flordia Mike. You share my eye for talent, you and a zillion others.

Hope this rattles a few bloggers again
2006-08-04 @ 16:38
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
Gpro even Annika did not know some of the rules despite having attended rules school

2006-08-04 @ 16:41
Comment from: gpro [Visitor]
Kathy

You are completely correct, hopefully Annika did learn the first thing they always teach at any rules clinic or seminar: Always carry a rule book and let it make the decisions. The "rules school" as you call it are not really to learn every rule, they are to teach you how to use the rule book to find out how to procede. It is pretty near impossible to memorize every rule and situation, the best advice is that if you have a question or something seems "not quite right", consult the book or an official. Years back, Davis Love III lost a chance at winning for not re-marking his ball correctly and then signing an incorrect scorecard.
2006-08-04 @ 16:52
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
Comment from George:
Who do you think will be first to win their maiden stroke-play victory?

Julieta Granada
Natalie Gulbis
Brittany Lang
Brittany Lincicome
Ai Miyazako
Morgan Pressel
Michelle Wie
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George,
I'd back one of the full time players since they play more often.
I would have backed Morgan Pressel at the start of the season, but the more she has played I doubt she has it. Maybe she should have won another few hundred amateur titles just to be sure she had the learning to close the deal thing settled.

So, I'll back Ai Miyazato. She's played fairly consistantly and has challenged sometimes, even with a third round lead. Julieta would be a second pick, but Ai Miyazato is the one I choose to be first to win a stroke play event from that list.
2006-08-04 @ 16:55
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
By the way, I would back Wie to win in the least number of events, if that bet were available. However, since George, justed asked who would win first, that would be Ai Miyazato because she will win this season at some stage.
2006-08-04 @ 16:59
Comment from: sue [Visitor]
i don't mind friendly rivalry like the one between annika and tiger, but rivalry between michelle and morgan seems more catty, since morgan has been so verbal about her not so positive opinions about michelle. it almost seems like a one way competition because michelle just ignores her and doesn't reciprocate any negative remarks from morgan. to be honest, i don't really see any competition between them since michelle seems to be in a different league from morgan. michelle has been pretty consistant in her finishes and morgan has been struggling to do the same. i don't think morgan's struggles today is related to michelle, but i hope morgan spends less time and energy talking about michelle and focus more on her own game in the future. whenever she talks about michelle, she only seems to be hurting her own image.
2006-08-04 @ 17:03
Comment from: Florida Mike [Visitor]
Sue you said it!!

"i don't really see any competition between them since michelle seems to be in a different league from morgan."

that's it in a nutshell. The Wie bashers were using the argument that Michelle needed to follow a path like Morgan had in order to "learn how to win". Of course that argument has gone away in the last 4 months. Now she "falters" in all her tournaments. whatever
2006-08-04 @ 17:26
Comment from: Randy Hebert [Visitor]
Comment from: gpro [Visitor]
Randy
Another lesson learned?
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Yeah another lesson learned. I am sure Michelle knows she can't touch a loose impediment or ground her club. She probably wasn't aware she couldn't hit a loose impediment on her backswing. She's smart, it won't happen again, hence lesson learned.
2006-08-04 @ 18:15
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
The incident resulting in a penalty in Michelle's own words:

Q: What was the hole where the penalty was assessed?
MICHELLE WIE: I think it was the 14 th hole they said. Was I in the bunker on the 14 th hole? I had a piece of moss right behind my ball. I knew I hit it but I did not think it would result in a two-stroke penalty. I thought if you hit through it then it would be ok, but I guess I knew the rule wrong.

Q: When did they tell you?
MICHELLE WIE: Right after I finished.

Q: You did not know until then?
MICHELLE WIE: No.

Q: Did you suspect anything before then?
MICHELLE WIE: No, I mean, I thought if you hit through it then it would be fine, but I guess not.

Q: You took a couple of practice swings on that shot as well. It was a pretty tough shot there, wasn't it?
MICHELLE WIE: Well, I always take practice strokes before I do it, but I did not touch the moss or sand when I did that.

Q: Michelle, you obviously had the rule wrong. Do you have any desire to go and read the rules at all?
MICHELLE WIE: Well, it is not actually great reading material (laughter) but I am going to definitely call a rules official if something questionable happens.

Q: Did they quote you a rule?
MICHELLE WIE: I think it was rule 13-4-b, off the top of my head. (laughter)

It doesn't sound like Michelle is too distraught over the whole thing and looks on it as another learning experience.

Come on Michelle a couple of 65s and you can win this thing. Julie clawed her way to a Par today which turned out to be an excellent score looking at some of the other players and their scores.... I believe only 14 players shot under Par today.

Only Sophie had a super round today carding a 67.
2006-08-04 @ 22:38
Comment from: JoeR [Visitor]
I think there is a lot of ignorance displayed above. I doubt many of you people understand what goes on at a Pro golf tournament, LPGA and PGA. Writers have a job to do and constantly hound players for comments. I think it is refreshing that Morgan Pressel simply gives her opinion, which she is entitled to do. The fact that some of the things she says give a negative slant to Michelle and her career path should be respected and appreciated. The way some of you try and create a feud is silly and will eventually mean that no one will speak the truth when they give an opinion.

No matter if it is Morgan, Nancy Lopez, Jeff Gove or others, there are many people who do not find it appropriate the special treatment MW gets. They may be right or they may be wrong but it is their opinion. We should be happy to see the different opinions and it is childish to slander people for simply telling the truth rather than being politically correct.

As for pressure on the second round of a 4 day tournament, the players are playing the course not each other. On Saturday players try and make a move to get into contention or stay at the top of the leaderboard. If you are near the top you may watch the Leaderboard but usually this does not happen until Sunday, particularly on the back nine. Anyone who thinks Morgan Pressel played the two final holes poorly today because of MW or any other player does not understand professional golf.

If the path Michelle has chosen is good or bad will only be known many years from now. Why not simply enjoy the good/great golf for the coming years and stop being so immature with ignorant or childish comments. Let us appreciate the players for speaking their mind and not being phony.

KATHY.....you may not like the style of Morgan Pressel but many other people do. Maybe you should question why POLO and Ralph Lauren are so popular. It is because it is high style and very fashionable. It is NEVER out of style and judging by the way you write and the things you say it may be above your level of understanding. I am also a huge Natalie fan but they are different people with different styles. Try and open your mind and broaden your perspective.
2006-08-04 @ 23:06
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor]
Kathy

Annika knew all the rules, but she was hoping the rules official didn't and she could talk the official into letting her get way with something.
2006-08-05 @ 00:05
Comment from: Fish MOnger [Visitor]
Joe R. Yawn. Good try. Pressel should concentrate on her golf game and not on anyone else. Most people know her as the one who talks trash but can't back it up. Woe to her sponsors who definately got the wrong deal with her. I just hope she doesn't soil her snotty Polo outfits with her abundant display of emotions.
2006-08-05 @ 00:14
Comment from: george [Visitor]
Just an update on the votes for who will get the 1st stroke-play win first (since the Wie Warriors do not accept a match-play victory as a real win)

(there were two votes for Michelle Wie on other threads)

So far:

Wie - 4
Miyazako - 2

no votes yet for Granada, Gulbis, Lang, Lincicome, or Pressel.

C'mon. 'Any love out there for these ladies who have no votes?

From now on, I'll only look for votes on a Dot Wong thread because Dot's posts, at least, are relatively non-controversial (except to the thin-skinned Wie Warriors, which is all of them, when Dot says something mild like Wie "faltered", having led by 2 with 7 left)

I may just keep the poll going through year's end, since the only material change would be to drop somebody off the list because they did win.

-George
2006-08-05 @ 01:56
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Morgan's difficulties eminate from the same source as Paula's after the Evian last year and Brittany's after match play this year. When you make statements against another player no matter how slight, they place additional pressure on themselves to back up those statements on the course. Playing professional golf at the highest level is demanding enough without adding pressure on yourself of any kind.

These girls feel they are better players in thier mind than Michelle Wie and that may be true in any given week. They feel Michelle was given special access to professional golf by sponsors or tournament organizers (USGA) and there is some understandable resentment there.

The media in their relentless pursuit of making controversy out of thin air are baiting these young players to enter the fray. Some are taking the bait and others have learned how to avoid controversy.

Michelle learned early it is better to keep your opinions to yourself (The Danielle Ammaccapane incident). Paula has learned her lesson and began deflecting questions about other players (The Annika Sorenstam incident). Morgan and Brittany have yet to completely learn to think before they speak, but they will in time.

The public is just as guilty as the media by hoping they will read or hear some derogatory comments or gossip. Michelle understands what it is all about as she stated in her pre tournament interview at the Open:

Q: Some of the people that voice their opinions, do you wish they would keep them to themselves?

MICHELLE WIE: No, some people keep them to themselves. Some people voice them. You need some gossip. I think that's what makes the world interesting. I mean, it's here and there, and I mean, you need it.

That kind of sums it all up, we need it. Well maybe not me.......

2006-08-05 @ 02:16
Comment from: Randy Hebert [Visitor]
George since Michelle only has one more appearance this year which I doubt she will be winning, give me Julieta Granada in your poll.
2006-08-05 @ 09:17
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor]
Perhaps GEORGE meabt to ask wgi would require the fewest tournaments to win a stroke play event, counting the Wetabix as one? Then again, perhaps that is not what he meant.
2006-08-05 @ 10:24
Comment from: george [Visitor]
Jim, don't be like the other Wie Warriors. React to what was actually written.

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Perhaps GEORGE meabt to ask wgi would require the fewest tournaments to win a stroke play event, counting the Wetabix as one? Then again, perhaps that is not what he meant.
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When I wrote: Who will be the first of these players to win her first LPGA stroke-play tournament ... what the heck else was it supposed to mean?

Be proud of the USA, Jim! Don't make English your 2nd language!

-George
2006-08-05 @ 11:23
Comment from: George [Visitor]
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Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Morgan's difficulties eminate from the same source as Paula's after the Evian last year and Brittany's after match play this year. When you make statements against another player no matter how slight, they place additional pressure on themselves to back up those statements on the course.
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I keep thinking you couldn't be this dense. But then again, I have to look at the evidence.

I'm not sure what imagined slight you believe Paula directed at St. Michelle, but it doesn't appear to have slowed down her play. After Evian, Paula won two other pro tournaments for a total of four in 2006.

Paula also played great in the Solheim Cup and sparked the victory when she mopped Laura Davies. Davies, BTW, was dismissed by the Wie Warriiors as an over-the-hill, washed-up blimp when Paula wiped her out. But now, according to the Wie Warriors, Laura Davies is to be revered and esteemed because she praised Michelle Wie. Laura has also praised Paula Creamer.

The hypocrisy and bile spewed by you Wie Warriors is the real marvel, much more than Laura Davies.

As for this year, Johnny Miller -- who praises Michelle Wie regularly -- observed that Paula Creamer's struggles in 2006 could be due to the reason that bandage wrapped tightly around Paula's right wrist. During the U.S. Open he suggested that rest and recuperation would have to be the remedy, since it has become a "chronic" problem as he put it. This of course, is not an excuse. Injuries are part of sports and are one of the obstacles to overcome.

Now, I realize that in the deranged world inhabited by the Wie Warriors, one must embrace Miller's praise of Wie and discard his analysis of Creamer's injury-hampered play.

Yet even somebody as spectacularly dense as 1-putt could surely comprehend -- or at least be trained to learn -- that injuries can affect performance. But who can be sure what the 1 putt learning curve would be in practice?

-George
2006-08-05 @ 11:50
Comment from: George [Visitor]
running poll: Which of these will be the first to win her first LPGA stroke-play tournament?

Julieta Granada
Natalie Gulbis
Brittany Lang
Brittany Lincicome
Ai Miyazako
Morgan Pressel
Michelle Wie


update:

Wie - 4
Miyazako - 2
Granada - 1

The Brittanys, Morgan and Natalie need support! Also there's time to board the Natalie bandwagon. On moving day, Natalie made a huge move up the leaderboard.

No more votes allowed this weekend once the first group tees off for round 4 in the British Open.

-George
2006-08-05 @ 11:55
Comment from: Fish Monger [Visitor]
See, George. It is much harder to defend a player than bash her. Morgan sucks. George , you are a loser for following the loser. heh heh
2006-08-05 @ 13:49
Comment from: JoeR [Visitor]
Morgan or Natalie will be the first winners of the group mentioned.

FISH MONGER......if ignorance is bliss you must be one happy person.
2006-08-05 @ 14:37
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
Michelle, despite extreme provocation from the likes of Morgan aka "the mouth" and Brittany, and much earlier on even Paula, have NEVER EVER said anything negative or nasty about ANYBODY choosing instead to say harmless things like, ...they're entitled to their opinion,... it makes it so much more interesting ....she's a nice girl (of Morgan)...

She's the youngest of the lot and she's the most mature.

What more do you people want?

Don't you wish your 16 year old at home behaves like that?

To quote Laura Davis,... Michelle critics are checkers (crazy, I guess) or jealous
2006-08-05 @ 15:46
Comment from: jenny [Visitor]
One Putt everybody on the LPGA tour feels they are better than Michelle and the only one who really is now is Annika. Hopefully Morgan will begin to accept this and conquer her demons eventually

I predict in maybe 3 or 4 years when she plays full time, the distance between her and LPGA players will be far greater than the distance between Tiger and PGA players. Much much greater. Of course a lot of things can happen between now and then that may derail that. Injuries, she falls in love and gets distracted, she loses interest, a whole bunch of things.

Nobody male or female, at the same age level has her skills and domination in her sport. At least I can't think of any
2006-08-05 @ 15:54
Comment from: Kathy [Visitor]
JoeR try and broaden your mind too. I don't have to admire Morgan's style or Polo or Lauren just because a lot of people do. I still think Morgan looks drab and if you can't see that maybe you need a new set of eyes or glasses.

I appreciate style and fashion. Michelle and Natalie have style, Morgan does not. Plain and simple. Michelle and Natalie also have the "it" quality. Morgan 's whole persona smells of cattiness, envy, immaturity. And that's my opinion which I'm entitled to just like you are to yours.

Now stop being so sillly again and tell someone they cannot have an opinion.
2006-08-05 @ 16:26
Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
George I have to know, you wouldn't be a graduate of an Evelyn Wood "Selective" reading course, would you?

I was writing of a period of time well before Paula's injury this season. Paula has reeled herself in this season and been very diplomatic with her comments about other players. She doesn't take the bait and pauses to think before she speaks to the world now.

"Comment from: jenny [Visitor]
One Putt everybody on the LPGA tour feels they are better than Michelle and the only one who really is now is Annika. Hopefully Morgan will begin to accept this and conquer her demons eventually"

Lorena Ochoa and Karrie Webb have been playing better golf than Michelle or Annika this year in many events. Lorena has the same problem as Michelle in the big events, the Hall of Famer of the Week Club.

Jenny I don't know if I would go that far on your assessment of Michelle's skill. There is a crop of young men and women out there that are playing some excellent golf you haven't see play in a PGA or LPGA event, I don't think they could match her level of consistency in LPGA events, but on any given day some of them could beat her.

2006-08-05 @ 16:42
Comment from: sue [Visitor]
there is a fine line between voicing one's opionions of another player and coming off sounding jealous, catty and petty. many players, especially the experienced ones have mastered walking the fine line when interviewed and some young inexperienced players haven't yet. if golf is supposed to be a gentleman's sport which highly values good sportsmanship and good manners, shouldn't the players be more respectful when publically voicing their opinions of another player?
2006-08-05 @ 18:54
Comment from: JoeR [Visitor]
Kathy...you may read well but you do not seem to comprehend as many Wie Warriors don't . If you read again you will see that I was trying to show you that people should tolerate opinions of others No where does it say or imply that you cannot have an opinion. Different strokes for different folks.
2006-08-05 @ 19:00
Comment from: BUd [Visitor]
Like Kathy said, Wie has been a class act througout her young career. Have you ever heard her say anything negative toward anyone. Oh, OK maybe that comment to that guy at the publix about getting a sex change, but he had it coming. Morgan on the other hand comes off as being an obnoxious spoiled brat. Remember that "whatever" response. I guess it all comes down to upbringing. Yeah, grandpa Krickstein is doing a marvelous job!
2006-08-05 @ 21:25
Comment from: Fish Monger [Visitor]
JoeR. I think you mean well, but you are quite dense and very hypocritical. You feel free to bash Wie and Wie fans, and yet you can't tolerate any criticism of Pressel. You preach tolerance , yet can't accept opinions that disagree with your own. How thin skinned you are.
2006-08-05 @ 23:27
Comment from: JoeR [Visitor]
Fish Monger......

There you go again, another Wie fan who lacks reading comprehension. Reread what I wrote and you will note there was no "Wie bashing". Wie fans perhaps but not dear Michelle. I have plenty of time for other opinions. People like you think that if someone is not being flowery and complimentary of MW then they must be bashing her.

Grow up and enjoy the golf.......
2006-08-06 @ 08:05
Comment from: george [Visitor]
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Comment from: Fish Monger [Visitor]
See, George. It is much harder to defend a player than bash her. Morgan sucks. George , you are a loser for following the loser. heh heh
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Fish, could you find the post where I "bashed" Michelle Wie?

And while you're at it, refresh me on how many professional wins Michelle has?

As for the poll, the voting can resume now, since none of these will get their first stroke-play win today

Again the question, who will be the first of these to get their first LPGA win in stroke play?

Julieta Granada
Natalie Gulbis
Brittany Lang
Brittany Lincicome
Ai Miyazako
Morgan Pressel
Michelle Wie


Only a few of you have voted so far. Even Nutty Norman is back. He can vote too.

Wie - 4
Miyazako - 2
Granada - 1

-George
2006-08-06 @ 12:18
Comment from: george [Visitor]
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Comment from: One-Putt [Visitor]
Morgan's difficulties eminate from the same source as Paula's after the Evian last year and Brittany's after match play this year. When you make statements against another player no matter how slight, they place additional pressure on themselves to back up those statements on the course.
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One-Putt
I was writing of a period of time well before Paula's injury this season. Paula has reeled herself in this season and been very diplomatic with her comments about other players. She doesn't take the bait and pauses to think before she speaks to the world now.
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The problem, 1P, is you don't even seem to read what YOU wrote.

You wrote that in the context that when a golfer shoots her mouth off about Michelle Wie, that golfer struggles to play well because trash-talking golfer is under pressure to back it off

You stated that Paula made some trash-talking comments about Michelle Wie sometime "after Evian" in 2005. By your logic, Paula should have then begun to struggle.

I noted that Paula won two professional tournaments AFTER Evian and played great in the Solheim Cup.

Plus, Paula made her Joe Namath comment just before Solheim. To the gaps of the veterans, Paula guaranteed an American victory at Solheim. And she backed it up.

Paula played great and mopped the floor with your esteemed Laura Davies, whom you quote with adoration when she me. (Laura also has greatly praised Paula Creamer, so I'm sure you find those comments wonderful as well). Paula laid down the marker, and backed up her guaranteed victory.

Bottom line: Paula played great after whatever alleged or imagined slight she made towards Michelle (what were those catty comments anyway? Can you re-post them in connection with or after Evian?)

Her struggles this year could be due to injuries and the typical cycles everyone goes through.

-George
2006-08-06 @ 12:51
Comment from: Fish Monger [Visitor]
George, you are taking thing way too seriously. Relax. I am done with the LPGA, a third rate, boring, catty tour. Everything there is a slow-mo: the pace, the swing... Try to enjoy the rest of the summer and not get too obssessed with Wie. I swear the bashers/critics are the ones the most obssessed with Wie, Ya Wie Nut.
2006-08-06 @ 15:33
Comment from: Fish Monger [Visitor]
One more thing, George. I think Morgan will be OK, lose a little baby fat and not badmouth others, namely Wie, and perhaps change her clothing sponsor to LaCoste, she might even become cool. I might still make fun of her fans, like yourself, but hey, nobody is perfect.
2006-08-06 @ 16:06
Comment from: John S [Visitor]
Don't u have a life George?
2006-08-07 @ 00:32
Comment from: bontie [Visitor]
These girls are all that - girls. They have not matured and yet need to deal with the pressures and media questions that experienced veterns know how to handle. Michelle also has a manager dad and all that money and help from her sponsors to polish her.

While I can't disagree that Morgan has come across as jealous, I can agree that Michelle gets special treatment and it does take attention away from the other young golfers that are also talented. I too would be frustrated. Yes Michelle is a great tallent but I bet there are other talented young golfers out there whos parents are letting them grow up before pushing them into the competitive professional golf world. Michelle's comment something like 'I always knew that if you hit thru it you were ok' shows her immaturity - heck even I know that rule! then of course there is her comment of 'well I am only 16'. If you are going to play with the adults then don't use the excuse that you are only a child!

Personally I hope Michelle doesn't win until she is 18, I hope Morgan earns some respect and I really hope that Glubis wins one soon!
2006-08-07 @ 22:43
Comment from: dennis [Visitor]
Ah, Michelle Wie the Anna Kournakova of golf.
2006-10-08 @ 23:58

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