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Comment from: Joe [Visitor] Email
brandon, for some reason i feel compelled to defend the US handicap system... i, for the life of me, can't say why... couple of things to note:

1) you don't have to post your scores at your home club anymore... you can post them at whatever course you play and/or post online at ghin.com.

also, you can join a mens club at just about any and every public course... many offer just the handicap or you can join the men's club fully which allows you to play in their weekly men's club events - very similar to the 'medal events' in scotland... putt everything out, etc. it usually costs less than a hundred dollars to join for the year and you just pay your greens fees for the events each weekend... it's basically joining a public course...

lastly, in defense of the handicap system - it allows my buddies and i to put a couple dollars on the round when we feel so inclined... it's a reasonably reliable way to figure out how many strokes i need to spot my buddies.

just my opinion...
2009-04-30 @ 01:07
Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Visitor] Email
For years, I never played the same course twice, so joining any club or keeping any handicap was practically impossible. Even though now I do have a "home" course, most of my full rounds are played elsewhere--again, at strange courses, usually reviewing the course for these pages. So I've always wondered just how accurate my hcp really is.

Anyway, one point that is very clear: Golfers in the US are far too fixated on stroke-play. And it does take too long, and it does suck the fun out of the game. Think how fast foursomes could move around playing better-ball in teams.
2009-04-30 @ 08:16
Comment from: J.O. [Visitor]
I kept a handicap 5 or 10 years ago simply in order to be eligible for the USGA events. I haven't ever kept one otherwise because I've never had a "home course" or bothered with the hassle that is involved in registering through one. Even back then I was amazed you couldn't just join online. Having to join AT a club is ridiculous. The USGA would be smart to start up an online handicap system where you pay a registration/membership fee (yay easy free money for the USGA) and enter their scores online. I know people can already ENTER their scores online, but why not just open it up to people to JOIN online? It should be so easy a caveman can do it.
2009-04-30 @ 10:58
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor] Email
The only time I'll get an official USGA handicap is to travel abroad. Otherwise, I'm just playing with my boys. I keep track of everyone's score whenever we play together and those are the only scores that go into my calculations. I use the USGA method and those are for handicapping our matches, which are always a 2 man best-ball nassau for a few sheckles. Not surprisingly, our matches are usually very close.

BTuck, there's a bakery in St. Andrews just about a block and a half from the Old course. Check out their warm meat pies. Excellent.
2009-04-30 @ 14:09
Comment from: Wendy (UK) [Visitor] Email
Very informative as I was completely unaware of differences in the handicapping systems. I have a handicap cert. purely for playing certain courses in Europe.

My initial reaction was horror at the idea of putting in a card for every round played, (I'm not having them chortling in the clubhouse on one of my off days) but OK - horses for courses.

Is Stableford popular in US? It speeds up play because if you are +2 on any hole, just pick up as you're not going to score any points, nor are you going to get depressed by having to record that 8.

I'm not sure I understand about stroke play making rounds so slow. (I just think there are slow/fast players). We get round in 3 1/4
3 1/2 hours (walking) per round as a threesome in stroke play, vicious gimme criteria. We keep a running total of last 3 scores to give (unofficial) average handicap; winner gets cheap club pin, loser buys drinks. Occasional side bet on certain holes, e.g. closest to the pin. Individual being thrashed tends to say "All or nothing" on last hole. Sometimes we agree - sometimes we just like to kick 'em while they're down (although that does do wonders for their 3 round handicap).
2009-04-30 @ 17:25
Comment from: Wendy (UK) [Visitor] Email
But RonMon - who said anything about team Stableford - every man for himself, I say!

I was just thinking that Stableford would address a couple of the issues Brandon raised, i.e. speed of play and "the 8 that haunts you the rest of your round" as you pick up as soon as you're not going to get any points, but it keeps the US preference for strokeplay and you can still turn in every card for handicap purposes (even when no score recorded on a hole). Some golf bore did try to explain to me how handicaps are adjusted using Stableford, but I nodded off before he had finished.

The article greatly added to my understanding of why even avid and low-scoring golfers in the US don't have club membership/handicaps.

Are you never tempted to declare that a round has suddenly become matchplay when the scores are too dire to record?

I HAD almost gotten over Ryder Cup, thanks very much.
2009-05-02 @ 13:44
Comment from: diet software [Visitor]
Few weeks ago i was watching something about it. You did nice job here.
2010-12-18 @ 03:26

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