Mel Gibson's anti-semetic tirade and golf and sports controversial quotes

Why would you recommend Dot Wong for more sensitive readers?

She stirred up a hornet's nest with her KARRIE WEBB WINS WHILE MICHELLE WIE FALTERS post including two by a reader named Boogrer directed at military golfer and me.

Bogger(visitor) Miitary Golfer__don't uou have more children to murder on behalf of you jewish masters

and

Hey Jim C, if you really think 6,000,000 jews died in WW2 I hav a bridge I'd like to sell you.

correction for typos.

Booger(visitor)

Military__Golfer; don't you have more children to murder on behalf of your jewish masters.

How about this gem from the jewish talmud: "even the best of the gentiles must be killed."

Moses' father in law Jethro never became a Jew, but he is treated with great respect in the Torah. The Torah is the holiest of all Jewish writings; I cannot believe that anything would ever be included in the Talmud, the commentaries on the Torah, which would ever imply that Jethro must be killed.

Israel honors righteous gentilies such as Schindler.

OK, Jim C. Be sure to tell that to your Lubavitcher buddies.

I feel sadness for Mel Gibson. Deep inside he is a very hateful person. I really don't believe he is apologetic. I think he feel's he has to be at this point because of all of the bad publicity he has attracted.

Who wants to see a Mel Gibson movie now?

Actors should just stick to acting.

I have to think Mel is a decent man. To have such brilliant acting career and good directing career, he must be thinking with his brain.

His ego just got out of control and also likely his comment got spun out of proportion. Did anyone hear the actual recording of his comments or is it just he said such and such ?

I like Mel, though not as much as Wie...

"...and the Italians, well, they smell different"

Richard Milhous Nixon

(Sensitive readers may at this point want to read Dot Wong's boring, opinion-less blog instead)

BTW, since when did fellow bloggers bad mouthed each other ? In any case, I guess the above is now an official fact.

Well, at least one thing she is doing right is write plenty about Wie. That will give you hits. Marrandette was HALF right when he said the short controversial sentense will get hits. I say short controversial sentenses about Wie is the recipe for hits.

A quote from Laura Davies.

"Anyone who has a problem with Michelle has to be crackers - or a little bit jealous,'' said Davies. ''It's brilliant that the women's game should have such a huge talent." Davies added that she, personally, had never felt jealous. "It would be pointless," she said. "What makes more sense is to accept that she's as good as she is and to try and get better. My target is to catch her."

I'd say that was kind of backhand for the whiney wenches of the LPGA !

How silly of me failing to mention one of my favorite's from the world of hockey:

A few years back, Hall of Famer Bobby Hull was quoted in a Russian newspaper as saying the "Nazi's had some good ideas."

Hull cited a mistranslation by the paper.

Brandon, what can you expect from a wannabe rancher?

Bobby Hull was also prone to smacking women around too.

Gibson is by no means unique. Keep in mind when faced with the scourge of nazism, Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh didn't seem to see what all the fuss was about.

In fact, Ford's 81-part series: "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem" detailed his thoughts on the subject. The Third Reich was quite impressed with both Ford and Lindbergh, bestowing medals upon both.

One last thing: A show of hands, how many people here have been drunk? Do you find that drunkeness causes one to be anti-semitic ar racist? Or do you find that it just allows you to speak your mind, often with terribly embarassing enthusiasm?

"Sorry, I drank myself into blaming the world's problems on the Jews," is a fairly sad way to play it off on Gibson's part.

--WKW

Who can forget Jan Stephenson in Golf Magazine, Nov. 2003:

"the Asians are killing our tour. Absolutely killing it."

Interestingly, Wie's response to the Stephenson interview:

"I don't really read that kind of stuff. I'm not really interested in it, I just want to live a happy life. I don't really want to be in the controversy."

How about Barry Bonds refusing to sign autographs for white people?

WKW: My hand is raised. A little babbling, perhaps drooling, but no anti-semitic remarks.

You're either a happy sod or a nasty sod. I don't think there's too much in between when you get to that level of drunkeness...

Brandon Tucker is a communist. Only a communist could start a thread like this.

Willie,

Prior to WWII, virtually NO ONE thought Naziism was a big deal. That's precisely why Churchill had so much trouble convincing the Chamberlain liberals that Hitler posed a grave threat to civilization.

Now, I'll address Gibson. I'm an unusual individual in that I'm a devout convert to the Catholic Faith who had a Jewish father. But I liked Gibson before this scandal and I like him still. What he said was wrong and certainly doesn't help his cause, but even good men have failings.

As for his contrition and sincerity, I can provide some unique insight, although most will scoff at my comments.

Obviously, being inebriated loosens one's tongue. Thus, someone in that state often provides some insight into what resides in his heart. But here's the point: who has only the purest of feelings in his heart? Sure, many never do soul-searching and are numb to their frailties, as they prance about as if they've been immaculately conceived. But if you're honest with yourself, you'll realize that you don't have to be the Shadow to know what evil lurks in the hearts of men, especially the man that is you.

If you would dispute this, I'll ask you a question: care to share your deepest, darkest, most embarrassing thoughts? I thought so.

Now, is Gibson sincerely sorry? Well, a better question may be: does he know that what he said was wrong? After all, we can't control what's in our hearts, only how we REACT to it and whether or not we give it free reign in our lives. So, all I can tell you is that if he is sincere about his faith (and all evidence indicates that he is), he regularly does self-examination and understands the degree to which what's in his heart is congruent with God's will.

That's why the confessional exists, my friends.

Tucker,

You truly are a liberal. Why do I say this? Because you're so numb to Truth that when you assess statements, you ignore the only relevant factor. To wit: are they true! You only observe whether or not they're politically correct, not whether or not they're correct.

Gibson's remarks deserve some criticism because it is not in fact true that Jews cause all the wars in the world (not even close with Muslims around!). However, the other remarks you cite fall into a very different category. And now I'll clarify matters for those who care.

Ben Wright was correct: a strong lesbian presence IS bad for the image of women's golf. Would anyone in his right mind care to dispute this? Please.

Secondly, Wright was also right about large breasts being an impediment to the golf swing. By the way, tennis player Steffi Graf had a breast REDUCTION for a similar reason. So, Brandy, you're 0 for 2.

As for Zoeller, he engaged in racial humor and ran afoul of the PC thought police. Should we hang the man? And, you know, there is a tremendous double standard here, in that no one complains about jokes directed at groups that are out of favor politically, such as men. Regardless, it was a joke and cannot rightly be placed in the same category as Gibson's comments, which were said in a spirit of anger. 0 for 3.

As for Rocker, I agree with what he said completely. If these foreigners would learn the language of the land and assimilate, maybe we wouldn't call them "foreigners." Ever think of that? Anyway, even this isn't quite like Gibson's comments because Rocker was expressing a preference, not espousing a belief that is demonstrably false.

Now, I didn't know about Rasheed Wallace's comments; in fact, I hadn't even heard of him. But all he was doing was expressing an opinion in a less than eloquent manner. 0 for 5.

Lastly, Singh was correct in what he said. But even if you disagree, the fact remains is that it still was merely the expression of an opinion. 0 for 6.

In summary, in case you still haven't learned the lesson, Brandy, a wise, erudite individual evaluates such things under the light of TRUTH. In other words, is it real or is it Memorex? The problem with Gibson's statement is that it is untrue: Jews are not responsible for all the wars in the world. This is a verifiable fact. However, many of the other statements WERE in fact true, making them very different animals.

You, Brandy, are a creature of the age, someone who has been well conditioned by the social engineers. You only notice whether things are politically incorrect or not. If so, you place them all in the same category, oblivious to qualities that may place them on very different moral planes. You lump truth and lies together haphazardly, clumsily, unthinkingly, operating based only on emotion, having totally disengaged your intellect. Although, like most everyone else, you fancy that your exercise of that faculty is non-pareil.

And this, Brandy, is what makes you a dangerous man. You would rather hear soothing lies than jarring truths. You and the rest of your ilk are responsible for transforming us into the kind of civilization George Orwell wrote about. And I paraphrase him: in a society wherein lies carry the day, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Oh, by the way, you inquired about our favorite idiotic comments. Mine would have to be those in your piece (except when you quoted others).

Good day to you, child.

Judge Smails said "That's why the confessional exists, my friends."

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Wait, i thought the confessional exists so priests can meet boys.

Kevin Nichols said "Wait, i thought the confessional exists so priests can meet boys."


A perfect example of a factually innacurate yet politically acceptable remark! Why don't you issue a formal apology to the Catholic Church!

No problem, Matt.....
Dear Catholic Church: I'm formally sorry so many priests ruined so many young lives and that your leadership swept it under the rug.

Smails,

The point of my article wasn't to analyze the comments made, but celebrate past quotes that made headlines for their bad taste -- thus entertaining the sports world.

But since you're such a devout reader and everyone at the TG blogs cherishes your insight/lunacy, I'll answer whether each statement is true, just for you.

Welcome to my V.I.P. Blog Lounge, Smails -- there's a three drink minimum.

1. Ben Wright -- in athletics, a women's physique hinders their ability to compete at a man's level. What a concept. Lesbianism won't hurt the game of golf, it might hurt TV ratings. While lesbians were more prevalent on tour a decade ago, that's when a lot of today's young stars (cute, hetero) began picking up the sticks.

2. Zoeller -- It's a tasteless stab at racial stereotypes and probably something that could be joked about if he and Tiger were good buddies hanging out over a beer, but not in the forum he chose.

3. Rocker -- He's a closed-minded biggot. By the sound of it you are too. Assimilate? In America? You have no concept of a global village, and my guess is you've never made it out of Boise.

4. Wallace -- I admire Rasheed. I think his thoughts on high school basketball players had definite merit. 'Sheed keeps it real, makes his points quick and assertive, you could learn from him, my longwinded, tanget-filled Smails.

Shut up Tucker, you silly commie.

Kevin,

That's okay as long as you don't mind jokes about the criminality of blacks. What's sauce for the goose . . ..

Ah, Brandie, you exhibit that famed lefist hypocrisy. You've been trained so well!

Those other men are bigots, racists, homophobes, sexists, but you admire Rasheed. Why, you and he are even on a first name basis. He's just "keeping it real." Of course, this is all part of your conditioning: he's black, so he gets a special dispensation from the rules to which civilized men must adhere.

Your lunacy is such that the idea of assimilation in America is foreign to you. Do you speak the languages of your ancestors, little boy? I know I don't.

You can go back to your playpen now.

Kevin,

Since you've served notice that political correctness doesn't reign on this esteemed blog, I have a joke for you.

What do you call a black guy in a three piece suit?

Answer: "The defendant."

Ain't that a hoot, Kevy baby?

Smails,

I have a hunch you don't know jack about hip hop culture. I don't ask you be able to recite the Illmatic by heart, but I hope before you read a little on

N.W.A.
Afrika Bambaataa & the Zulu Nation
Rastafari
2pac
Russell Simmons

I know, I'm no brutha, but it's good to learn at least a little about all cultures-- you sound completely out of touch with this generation and its influences. You won't get too far with the youngsters talking about Churchill.

I know you come from a generation that "gave a hoot" more than mine, but you may as well stop sounding like an ignorant square -- at least on my B-boy blog, yo.

Call me a little boy all you want. I just call you 'whack'.

On the contrary, Brandie, I think I'm in closer touch with this generation's influences than you are, in that I actually understand their true causes and effects.

Tell me, little boy, what do you know about other cultures? Oh, and I don't mean the rap scene; just so you know, it's not a "culture." It's cultural poison.

Judge Smails wrote:
"What do you call a black guy in a three piece suit?

Answer: 'The defendant.'

Ain't that a hoot, Kevy baby?"

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Thank you, Judge. Very illuminating.

What do you call a white man surrounded by 10 black men?

Quarterback.

Oh, Brandie, the word is "Semitic." If you want to be a professional writer, you should learn spelling and grammar.

I guess as long as your "hip," it doesn't really matter.

Typo: it should have been "you're."